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[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

So, I'm curious about why commenting in this forum is seen as 'trolling'. I usually see whats new on VJ by going straight to 'View New Content' from the home page. I assumed most people did that. I click on a combination of threads - usually one of three things - for help with my current stage of the immigration journey, to help with someone else's immigration situation or something fun to lighten up my day.

I pick the threads based on the titles of the threads or sometimes the person posting (if I think it might be a fun debate)

If you guys want a completely male-only or even 'males who have married Eastern European women'-only online clubhouse then I'm sure you are smart enough to set up your own chat room. And if not, then why is it weird when other people with different backgrounds find your posts.

Of course I am one of those British ******* who is in the 'wrong' forum so I guess I just 'won't understand'

It's not like that at all. A certain group comes in this forum and berates the posters. Rude doesn't even begin to explain some of them. Look through threads long enough on here and you will understand what I'm saying.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/347521-child-support-for-a-ukrainian-baby/ <----- that's just one of many examples of what that group does in this forum. They are about as rude as it gets on here yet they like to control everyone on this site. The irony of it is that some of those that group totally failed in their VJ yet they like to tell others what's good and what's not good for them.

Moderation on this site is report-driven. Moderators don't read every thread and often turn a blind eye to TOS violations in threads they do read if there are no reports filed. The reason the natives of this forum dislike alien invaders like yourself (and me) is because the more aliens there are, the more likely it is that someone will object to the sense of humor native to these parts and file a report. As long as its just them, reports are unlikely. There is very little intra-RUB sniping (unless we're on the subject of collecting UI... hoo boy) so as long as the forum is just them, they can get away with a lot more.

Not hardly AJ. It's your little group of FB trolls that like to come in here and start #######, even you have done it from time to time. Now tell me the last time any of the RUB's went into another regional forum and started bashing posters there. You can't because it's never happened. We mind our own business and we don't screw with others in other regional forums.

But it's nice to see you posting your two cents in here as usual...well not really.

Edited January 20, 2012 by Why_Me

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Not hardly AJ.

Which part of what I wrote are you disagreeing with?

Moderation on VJ is report-driven. This is true.

When moderation is report-driven, the less heterogeneous the posting population, the less likely it is that posts will be deemed report-worthy. This is also true.

There isn't much intra-RUB sniping but the sniping over UI checks is a distinct departure from the norm. This is also true.

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They are and they have.

Then that's cool - but why continue to ###### so much about participation on a public forum.

Also - why so down on the Brit gals - which is weird as we're a pretty tolerant bunch when it comes to pics of female nudity, bawdy talk, 'sexist' jokes etc.

I mean, it takes a lot to get me riled up enough to post like this. But I've been on this site as a reader since 2006 and a poster since 2007 when we first filed our visa petition. I've read a lot of posts in those five years - I've grown to appreciate the wit and comments of lots of members over that time. Some of my favourites are in the UK and RUB forum. Sure there are a couple people who have a general bitter and negative demeanor but I don't mind that either - it's more like in real life - the variety of opinion is what keeps it interesting.

I don't like cliques though - it's a shame if that's what the regional forums are turning into.

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LSMA!!! (formerly known as lsma )

So I changed that when in my earlier posts everyone thought I was a Middle-Eastern-man called Isma!

I can't think of a cool screen name.

Suggestions welcome.

(keep it relatively clean)

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Then that's cool - but why continue to ###### so much about participation on a public forum.

Also - why so down on the Brit gals - which is weird as we're a pretty tolerant bunch when it comes to pics of female nudity, bawdy talk, 'sexist' jokes etc.

I mean, it takes a lot to get me riled up enough to post like this. But I've been on this site as a reader since 2006 and a poster since 2007 when we first filed our visa petition. I've read a lot of posts in those five years - I've grown to appreciate the wit and comments of lots of members over that time. Some of my favourites are in the UK and RUB forum. Sure there are a couple people who have a general bitter and negative demeanor but I don't mind that either - it's more like in real life - the variety of opinion is what keeps it interesting.

I don't like cliques though - it's a shame if that's what the regional forums are turning into.

I'm going to guess that English is your first language. How about you start going back and reading threads like that one I linked you. Did you read that thread I linked? If so then why post these questions here?

Edited January 20, 2012 by Why_Me

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Also - why so down on the Brit gals - which is weird as we're a pretty tolerant bunch when it comes to pics of female nudity, bawdy talk, 'sexist' jokes etc.

Personality conflicts for the most part. Some people got off on the wrong foot and on the Internet it's a lot more amusing to keep rivalries going than it is to just ignore each other like they'd probably do IRL.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Personality conflicts for the most part. Some people got off on the wrong foot and on the Internet it's a lot more amusing to keep rivalries going than it is to just ignore each other like they'd probably do IRL.

So tell me again AJ why your little group of trolls is posting in this forum attacking posters? I mean seeing how you feel the need to post your two cents on this thread you could at least give me your take on your little group of gremlins.

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So tell me again AJ why your little group of trolls is posting in this forum attacking posters? I mean seeing how you feel the need to post your two cents on this thread you could at least give me your take on your little group of gremlins.

posting <> trolling.

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I'm going to guess that English is your first language. How about you start going back and reading threads like that one I linked you. Did you read that thread I linked? If so then why post these questions here?

I have been reading these posts - for years now. I get that there are people who like to 'stir the pot' but it's the Internet - that's par for the course.

It just feels that some members who are regulars in this forum keep suggesting that all non-RUB posters are here to troll, cause trouble etc. And also there's at least one person, maybe more who keeps telling everyone not in the regular RUB clique to b*gger off.

I think it's a shame if it's just a small male clique you want. I think the debates get more interesting with more people involved.

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So tell me again AJ why your little group of trolls is posting in this forum attacking posters? I mean seeing how you feel the need to post your two cents on this thread you could at least give me your take on your little group of gremlins.

Am I one of the little group of gremlins now?

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You get your own trolls and gremlins, AJ? #######.

Yes, you're all mine. You're all members of my clone army. Now do my bidding and get naked in a foxhole with visaveteran, willya?

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

I have been reading these posts - for years now. I get that there are people who like to 'stir the pot' but it's the Internet - that's par for the course.

It just feels that some members who are regulars in this forum keep suggesting that all non-RUB posters are here to troll, cause trouble etc. And also there's at least one person, maybe more who keeps telling everyone not in the regular RUB clique to b*gger off.

I think it's a shame if it's just a small male clique you want. I think the debates get more interesting with more people involved.

Here's the next question and let's see how much class we all have around here. I know I don't have much but let's see anyways.

That thread I linked you to...well that poster was new to this forum and most likely will never come back here again. In fact it got so bad that the OP asked to have the thread locked. You do see what I'm saying here yes? I sure hope so.

So now for this question. "Women's Day" is a big thing for wives, fiancee's, gf's, etc.. in RUB countries...much bigger than Valentines Day...at least for them. So someone starts a thread on that day doing the usual congratulations and these mainly UK trolls come into the RUB forum and bash posters on that thread. Wives, fiancee's...you name it. Some of these RUB women have never been to the US yet, posted on that thread and then proceeded to get flamed to no end. I can only guess what they were feeling.

So what's your take on that?

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Congratulations. You guys made this thread boring and tiresome. Back to regularly-scheduled programming about guns, pie, and Kip's MIL.

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Here's the next question and let's see how much class we all have around here. I know I don't have much but let's see anyways.

That thread I linked you to...well that poster was new to this forum and most likely will never come back here again. In fact it got so bad that the OP asked to have the thread locked. You do see what I'm saying here yes? I sure hope so.

So now for this question. "Women's Day" is a big thing for wives, fiancee's, gf's, etc.. in RUB countries...much bigger than Valentines Day...at least for them. So someone starts a thread on that day doing the usual congratulations and these mainly UK trolls come into the RUB forum and bash posters on that thread. Wives, fiancee's...you name it. Some of these RUB women have never been to the US yet, posted on that thread and then proceeded to get flamed to no end. I can only guess what they were feeling.

So what's your take on that?

Well - I can see more than one side on the Ukrainian child support thread - the OP came across as a bit of a douche in the early part of the thread with the focus on the money - I think he explained his side a bit better later on and unfortunately for him I think his more reasonable response got lost in the fire fight between a group of people who wanted to jump to a 'she's a scammer' riff and the other group of people who wanted to go on about 'deadbeat dads'. To me it seemed like the OP's story got lost in other people's issues but I don't think all the bad was on the non-RUB people's side.

I can't remember a thread where people from the UK have directly given any women in the RUB forum a hard time. I don't read this site 24/7 though - I have job and a baby so I probably miss some stuff. Of course it's a bit ####### if people are being mean in a Women's Day thread. But posts directly to any of the 'main' guys here. Come on. You can dole it out - you can take it. You're a robust group - with (mostly) I think a good sense of humour. I think you can cope with a bit of challenging conversation once in a while. I mean, you need a break every now and then from the ####### and gun posts, surely?

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Congratulations. You guys made this thread boring and tiresome. Back to regularly-scheduled programming about guns, pie, and Kip's MIL.

You're right - I'm sorry - also - I've missed the MIL story - were there pictures?