Flying within the USA with and expired visa

[habibi83 12]

I assume you are talking about domestic flights in the US and you are already in the US? If so then yes.

How???? She can not ge an ID NO Social and is traveling on POLISH passport with no valid VISA in it> she can't even drive in the USA!!! (unless she has international driver license)

[Pitaya 2,577]

I don't have a valid visa. I don't have a social security number so I cant even get a state ID... only picture ID I have is my passport that has been reissued a few weeks ago so there's nothing in it. Can I still fly within the Unites States without being asked any questions?

The OP'a first sentence of the first posting is important. She does't have a valid visa! You may be able to get away with it, or you may be questioned, detained, deported, banned. Do you feel lucky? I would suggest that you get all of your travel documents in order, or be willing to suffer the consequences.

YMMV.

[Harsh_77 718]

How???? She can not ge an ID NO Social and is traveling on POLISH passport with no valid VISA in it> she can't even drive in the USA!!! (unless she has international driver license)

For local travel ID(US DL is not required) one can travel with just Passport. Most TSA agents dont check the visa on the passport, they only look at the Bio page make sure your name and name on ticket match and you look similar to the pic in the passport.

She cannot drive that is true, which has nothing to do if she cane fly or not..

[Boiler 45,525]

Most

But not all, it has happened.

[Harsh_77 718]

Most

But not all, it has happened.

you are right it can very well happen she gets pulled by TSA and handed over to CBP, I have never denied that.

[habibi83 12]

For local travel ID(US DL is not required) one can travel with just Passport. Most TSA agents dont check the visa on the passport, they only look at the Bio page make sure your name and name on ticket match and you look similar to the pic in the passport.

She cannot drive that is true, which has nothing to do if she cane fly or not..

yes it has everything to do with it because she is here illegally!!! sure, but to say most TSA agents dont check for visa is kind of bold statement to make; because from my understanding it is part of their job discription; she might get LUCKY it all depends on the airport, the destination, besically just luck. In my opinion its a very high risk to take for someone that is living in the states illigally (and I assume would like to stay here)

Edited January 13, 2012 by habibi83

[Harsh_77 718]

yes it has everything to do with it because she is here illegally!!! sure, but to say most TSA agents dont check for visa is kind of bold statement to make; because from my understanding it is part of their job discription; she might get LUCKY it all depends on the airport, the destination, besically just luck. In my opinion its a very high risk to take for someone that is living in the states illigally (and I assume would like to stay here)

Here is the description from TSA site "Since 2001, we have been mandated by law to appropriately screen air travelers to ensure that certain items and persons prohibited from flying don’t board commercial airliners."

Duties of a TSO (Transportation Security Officer)

Transportation Security Officers (TSOs) provide security and protection of air travelers, airports and aircraft in a courteous and professional manner. This includes:

•Operating screening equipment to identify dangerous objects in baggage, cargo and on passengers, and preventing those objects from being transported onto aircraft;

•Performing searches, to include hand-wand and pat-down searches;

•Controlling terminal entry and exit points;

•Interacting with the public, giving directions and responding to inquiries;

•Maintaining focus and awareness while working in a stressful environment which includes noise from alarms, machinery and people, crowd distractions, time pressure, and disruptive and angry passengers, in order to preserve the professional ability to identify and locate potentially life threatening or mass destruction devices, and to make effective decisions in both crisis and routine situations.

Nowhere is says they are required to check the immigration status of the passenger and infact as I said most don't. I fly atleast twice everyweek and one of the airport I fly to has lots of foregin tourist including ppl from Brazil, Argentina and Europe.

I have never seen a TSA guy flip the passport other then Bio page.

Only time I have seen them flip the passport is when they feel the passport itself is a fake.

As I mentioned they are not stopped from checking the visa and if they find something is not right they can call the CBP officer in the airport and hand over the case to them.

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

I don't have a valid visa. I don't have a social security number so I cant even get a state ID... only picture ID I have is my passport that has been reissued a few weeks ago so there's nothing in it. Can I still fly within the Unites States without being asked any questions?

Beata,

yes, you can.

If you were a Green Card holder, you also could have a new passport, issued in the United States, without any visa in it.

Nobody knows your immigration status just based on your passport alone.

Hence, as long as your passport is valid, nobody will give you a hard time unless you attract untoward attention to yourself by pulling out a gun at the scanner or screaming "bomb" when walking to the gate.

[ScottnIzabela 25]

oh well welcome to America then

thank you! I'm a new member... I'm currently working on it I lost my first passport and they reissued me a new one but I don't have the I-94 form to prove i entered the states legally. I am afraid that they would ask me about it.

[bigdog 376]

Chances are very slim. use your passport. In meantime start to get a replacement I94, did you apply for AOS? Stop traveling and get your ID and immigration stuff fixed.

[Gosia & Tito 199]

Here is the description from TSA site "Since 2001, we have been mandated by law to appropriately screen air travelers to ensure that certain items and persons prohibited from flying dont board commercial airliners."

Duties of a TSO (Transportation Security Officer)

Transportation Security Officers (TSOs) provide security and protection of air travelers, airports and aircraft in a courteous and professional manner. This includes:

Operating screening equipment to identify dangerous objects in baggage, cargo and on passengers, and preventing those objects from being transported onto aircraft;

Performing searches, to include hand-wand and pat-down searches;

Controlling terminal entry and exit points;

Interacting with the public, giving directions and responding to inquiries;

Maintaining focus and awareness while working in a stressful environment which includes noise from alarms, machinery and people, crowd distractions, time pressure, and disruptive and angry passengers, in order to preserve the professional ability to identify and locate potentially life threatening or mass destruction devices, and to make effective decisions in both crisis and routine situations.

Nowhere is says they are required to check the immigration status of the passenger and infact as I said most don't. I fly atleast twice everyweek and one of the airport I fly to has lots of foregin tourist including ppl from Brazil, Argentina and Europe.

I have never seen a TSA guy flip the passport other then Bio page.

Only time I have seen them flip the passport is when they feel the passport itself is a fake.

As I mentioned they are not stopped from checking the visa and if they find something is not right they can call the CBP officer in the airport and hand over the case to them.

I'm afraid you have incomplete information...also from the TSA site:

'In June 2007, a layer of aviation security was added when TSA assumed travel document checking responsibilities from airline contractors. Specially trained Transportation Security Officers (TSOs), using black lights and magnifying loupes, are positioned in front of the checkpoint to check passengers' boarding passes and identification, a system now in place at every airport in the country. Since the program was implemented, security officers performing document checking duties have found thousands of suspect, illegible or expired documents, including passports, visas and drivers licenses.'

http://www.tsa.gov/what_we_do/layers/tdc/index.shtm

Edited January 14, 2012 by Gosia & Tito

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Chances are very slim. use your passport. In meantime start to get a replacement I94, did you apply for AOS? Stop traveling and get your ID and immigration stuff fixed.

I don't think she has any grounds to adjust status. Single, entering under a B-1, still looking for Mr. Right...

[bigdog 376]

I don't think she has any grounds to adjust status. Single, entering under a B-1, still looking for Mr. Right...

Another person looking for a quick fix. Everyone need to do it right and legal.

[beata.ry 0]

I overstayed. I'm here 5 years so extending my visa which I do NOT have anymore is not an option.

[beata.ry 0]

I don't think she has any grounds to adjust status. Single, entering under a B-1, still looking for Mr. Right...

you got that right. obviously I'm not getting married for papers so I do what I can to stay here and function just like everyone else... it's just my options are limited. I honestly don't think I'm going to take a risk and enter the "lions cage" so flying out to Cali is not not happening any time soon. Thank you for all the answers I appreciate it very much