pychological incapacity annulment

[caduceus37 0]

Hi caduceus37

You are so welcome. My wife says you are so welcome also

In regards to PEPS I am not sure what that is.. Where did you see that (PEPS)?

Also Thanks you " Tahoma " and " inyong " for adding the additional support and information to caduceus37.

Soon enough caduceus37 will be jumping for joy when she passes her medical, USEM interview, cfo and on her way to the USA to be with her hubby!! :dance:

Hi wally about PEPS,i read one of the member that if the st'luke psychiatrist is not satisfied with the evaluation,they will refer to PEPS( duno the meaning) for psychological test and pay 3000.thats a lot of money.my evaluation is tom,oh my god.im very nervous right now but with your help,Tahoma and inyong,i hope i wl be jumping for joy when i pass my medical tom.i would like to thank you all for the support you have given me.i really appreciate all your help i let you know whats gonna happen tom.good luck to myself:) thank you again:)

[caduceus37 0]

Sick to your plan and keep the goal in sight. Good Luck,

Hi Bigdog:) thanks for your support.i really appreciate your advice.i just hope i pass my evaluation tom.thank you:)

[caduceus37 0]

Hi caduceues37, don't be worried all about this just relax you can make it and if you had your psych test you will just wait

for 1 week or 2 weeks after,like a friend of mine and after that she was scheduled for interview in USEM it will not affect

your interview, and prayers always. Good Luck!

Hi Inyong,thanks for the support:) i really appreciate it.i hope i pass my evaluation.why 1 to 2 weeks? other says 2 to 3 days?

[Wally G! 58]

Hi wally about PEPS,i read one of the member that if the st'luke psychiatrist is not satisfied with the evaluation,they will refer to PEPS( duno the meaning) for psychological test and pay 3000.thats a lot of money.my evaluation is tom,oh my god.im very nervous right now but with your help,Tahoma and inyong,i hope i wl be jumping for joy when i pass my medical tom.i would like to thank you all for the support you have given me.i really appreciate all your help i let you know whats gonna happen tom.good luck to myself:) thank you again:)

Hi Caduceus

PEPS is and additional Exam Psych examination.

Ready this thread (Do not get nervous this her experience and guide for all those that have annulments)

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/221658-st-lukes-medical-exam-walkthrough/page__view__findpost__p__4611113

[caduceus37 0]

Hi caduceus37

You are so welcome. My wife says you are so welcome also

In regards to PEPS I am not sure what that is.. Where did you see that (PEPS)?

Also Thanks you " Tahoma " and " inyong " for adding the additional support and information to caduceus37.

Soon enough caduceus37 will be jumping for joy when she passes her medical, USEM interview, cfo and on her way to the USA to be with her hubby!! :dance:

Hi wally,tahoma and inyong and bigdog:( i had my psychological test at st.luke's today and unluckily,the one who evaluate me was a very strict man.he kept saying about my two annulled and he raised his voice i had no idea why he was so mad at me.i was just explaining what happened.i wanted to cry.then he referred me to another evaluation what they call PEPS, i called PEPS for appointment and i felt better when i talked to the very nice lady who is going to evaluate me next week.she said not to worry too much.she's very nice,opposite to what i have experienced to the other psychologist,he was so intimidating that got me more nervous facing him.i only hope and pray next week be successful.my immunization is pending because of my psychological evaluation.the result after the evaluation is 2 weeks,they going to forward the result in st.luke.i have no choice now but to re schedule my interview:(

[Paul+Leticia 1]

Try not to cry during the interview. It wont help to lose your composure and when asked a question answer it clearly and to the point without saying more than you need too. Sometimes, we all have a problem of "saying too much" or saying more than needs to be known...Good Luck!

[Wally G! 58]

Hi Caduceus37

Sorry to hear that you got grouchy doctor!! Like we all said they will talk down on you and make it seem as if they don't believe your story. I was praying and hoping you got somebody understanding. This is the doctors job to scrutinize and evaluate.

I think personally if any person that has annulments (plural), scars etc... They will either order a pysh exam. Also in the the Philippines culture (Catholic) they are super strict on annulment of marriage. They don't believe in divorce etc... So being you have two that gave them all ammunition to orders the full psyh exams. As for the grumpy grouchy doctor raising his voice at you. Sorry you had to go through that. I wish sometimes people could pull the skeleton out these guys closets and see what they are hiding in their lives . Anyway straying from the subject....

Best thing now is to accept and do the next exam (PEPS) next week. They will have you do a series of test. You will be ok from this. Like Tahoma said " she has not seen any story were anybody has fail the medical and been denied. Unless your a certified Wacko and I know your not that at all.

For now just relax and focus on what you need to do and continue to pray to God. You will pass this process for the medical. :D

Keep us all posted so we know where you are at in the process..

[caduceus37 0]

Hi caduceus37

You are so welcome. My wife says you are so welcome also

In regards to PEPS I am not sure what that is.. Where did you see that (PEPS)?

Also Thanks you " Tahoma " and " inyong " for adding the additional support and information to caduceus37.

Soon enough caduceus37 will be jumping for joy when she passes her medical, USEM interview, cfo and on her way to the USA to be with her hubby!! :dance:

Hi Wally,tahoma,inyong and bigdog.i had my psychological evaluation at st.luke today and unluckily he referred me to have full psychological evaluation in PEPS:( he was kind of intimidating and he raised his voice i dont know why.i called PEPS for appointment and the lady who is very nice will going to interview me next week.i just only hope my evaluation be successful.i am supposed to have embassy interview next week but i have no choice and reschedule again:( they wont give me immunization until i get done with my evaluation:(

[Tahoma 2,292]

Congratulations for jumping through the first hoop!

Now that you have completed the psych evaluation, you can prepare to jump through the next hoop...the psych test. The psych test will cost P3000 and it will take up most of a day. Then, a couple of weeks later, you can complete the immunizations and be done with St. Lukes.

After that, you can go to your rescheduled Embassy interview, and you don't have to worry because the consular officers are all 'Kano and they understand that the Philippines does not allow divorce, and they understand that getting an annulment is just like getting a divorce in the U.S. They really don't have a problem with it. The doctors can try to scare you all they want but, like I said, I've never seen the Embassy deny a visa because of annulment.

I wish I could find the thread where the OP gave a detailed account of the psych test. From what I remember of the story, the psych test included a lot of written stuff like true/false questions and multiple choice questions. I don't remember if there was an evaluation with a psych doctor. If you have to undergo another evaluation, I hope the doctor isn't as grumpy and confrontational and intimidating as your St. Lukes psych evaluation doctor was.

But...hey...that's how they play the game. You just have to keep things in perspective...they are just doing their job. They are testing you to find out whether you are a danger to yourself or a danger to others. Just understand that...and keep your cool.

When you complete your psych test, maybe you can post your story here. I would appreciate reading it, and I think others would appreciate it too. I think it would help people who have to undergo the psych test in the future.

Best regards to you and your hubby. Always keep you eyes on the prize!

~ Tahoma

[caduceus37 0]

Congratulations for jumping through the first hoop!

Now that you have completed the psych evaluation, you can prepare to jump through the next hoop...the psych test. The psych test will cost P3000 and it will take up most of a day. Then, a couple of weeks later, you can complete the immunizations and be done with St. Lukes.

After that, you can go to your rescheduled Embassy interview, and you don't have to worry because the consular officers are all 'Kano and they understand that the Philippines does not allow divorce, and they understand that getting an annulment is just like getting a divorce in the U.S. They really don't have a problem with it. The doctors can try to scare you all they want but, like I said, I've never seen the Embassy deny a visa because of annulment.

I wish I could find the thread where the OP gave a detailed account of the psych test. From what I remember of the story, the psych test included a lot of written stuff like true/false questions and multiple choice questions. I don't remember if there was an evaluation with a psych doctor. If you have to undergo another evaluation, I hope the doctor isn't as grumpy and confrontational and intimidating as your St. Lukes psych evaluation doctor was.

But...hey...that's how they play the game. You just have to keep things in perspective...they are just doing their job. They are testing you to find out whether you are a danger to yourself or a danger to others. Just understand that...and keep your cool.

When you complete your psych test, maybe you can post your story here. I would appreciate reading it, and I think others would appreciate it too. I think it would help people who have to undergo the psych test in the future.

Best regards to you and your hubby. Always keep you eyes on the prize!

~ Tahoma

Hi Tahoma,Wally and Paul+Leticia,

I just read your reply,thank you so much I had my psych.evaluation exam last week, the phychiatrist lady is very nice,i started the evaluation 10am and finished at almost 7pm,i got headache answering those hundreds of questions,drawing,puzzles,etc. but what made me very emotional was the part of questioning me about my annulment cases,i did explained to her that i never had a psychological test during my annulment,and my atty,did all the work to get my case done.she understood but still i was very emotional when she asked questions about my fiance,i cried after i told her that my fiance is doing everything just to be with him,that we have beed together since 2003 and still proving to them our gunuine relationship.and i can prove to them that i am not psychological incapacitated.after the interview,the lady said o call her on wednesday to know when she forward the result in st.lukes.right now,im still nervous and worried thinking about the result,and worried of my interview.i dont know whats going to happen.i pray everyday to give me hope.thank you guys for helping me....i had my urine,xray and blood test last jan9.and no idea if i pass the test,they never told me.im worried:(

[caduceus37 0]

Hi Caduceus37

Sorry to hear that you got grouchy doctor!! Like we all said they will talk down on you and make it seem as if they don't believe your story. I was praying and hoping you got somebody understanding. This is the doctors job to scrutinize and evaluate.

I think personally if any person that has annulments (plural), scars etc... They will either order a pysh exam. Also in the the Philippines culture (Catholic) they are super strict on annulment of marriage. They don't believe in divorce etc... So being you have two that gave them all ammunition to orders the full psyh exams. As for the grumpy grouchy doctor raising his voice at you. Sorry you had to go through that. I wish sometimes people could pull the skeleton out these guys closets and see what they are hiding in their lives . Anyway straying from the subject....

Best thing now is to accept and do the next exam (PEPS) next week. They will have you do a series of test. You will be ok from this. Like Tahoma said " she has not seen any story were anybody has fail the medical and been denied. Unless your a certified Wacko and I know your not that at all.

For now just relax and focus on what you need to do and continue to pray to God. You will pass this process for the medical. :D

Keep us all posted so we know where you are at in the process..

Hi Tahoma,Wally and Paul+Leticia,

I just read your reply,thank you so much I had my psych.evaluation exam last week(PEPS),the phychiatrist lady is very nice,i started the evaluation 10am and finished at almost 7pm,i got headache answering those hundreds of questions,drawing,puzzles,etc. but what made me very emotional was the part of questioning me about my annulment cases,i did explained to her that i never had a psychological test during my annulment,and my atty,did all the work to get my case done.she understood but still i was very emotional when she asked questions about my fiance,i cried after i told her that my fiance is doing everything just to be with him,that we have beed together since 2003 and still proving to them our gunuine relationship.and i can prove to them that i am not psychological incapacitated.after the interview,the lady said o call her on wednesday to know when she forward the result in st.lukes.right now,im still nervous and worried thinking about the result,and worried of my interview.i dont know whats going to happen.i pray everyday to give me hope.thank you guys for helping me....i had my urine,xray and blood test last jan9.and no idea if i pass the test,they never told me.im worried:(

[Wally G! 58]

Hi Tahoma,Wally and Paul+Leticia,

I just read your reply,thank you so much I had my psych.evaluation exam last week(PEPS),the phychiatrist lady is very nice,i started the evaluation 10am and finished at almost 7pm,i got headache answering those hundreds of questions,drawing,puzzles,etc. but what made me very emotional was the part of questioning me about my annulment cases,i did explained to her that i never had a psychological test during my annulment,and my atty,did all the work to get my case done.she understood but still i was very emotional when she asked questions about my fiance,i cried after i told her that my fiance is doing everything just to be with him,that we have beed together since 2003 and still proving to them our gunuine relationship.and i can prove to them that i am not psychological incapacitated.after the interview,the lady said o call her on wednesday to know when she forward the result in st.lukes.right now,im still nervous and worried thinking about the result,and worried of my interview.i dont know whats going to happen.i pray everyday to give me hope.thank you guys for helping me....i had my urine,xray and blood test last jan9.and no idea if i pass the test,they never told me.im worried:(

Hi caduceus37

We are glad to see your update . Congratulations on completing PEPS exam. Now you will need to call on Wednesday to see if they have forwarded your results and passed.

I believe you will pass your medical. St. Luke's did there job by raising the red flag when the saw two annulments and the manner in which the annulments were filed. You have passed through the gauntlet of exams and proven your of sound mind and happy in your relationship. As proof of relationship, 9 years is a long enough time for proof of relationship . Time to get married after that . No doubt you two love each other (L) .

It's ok you were emotional in your feelings to the examiner. As long as you explained everything.

The examiner will not give you your results after the examination. They need to process and review. Then forward to St. luke's if all is passed.

Once you go to St. Luke's, I believe last thing you will need is vaccinations shots if needed.

God is good. We are praying with you. So you join the rest of the VJ'ers on the Journey to there loved ones.

In the meantime start double and triple checking your I-129f package and make sure all documents, forms and ID's are together in order.

God Bless you !!! Your strong and won't give up!!

[caduceus37 0]

Hi caduceus37

We are glad to see your update . Congratulations on completing PEPS exam. Now you will need to call on Wednesday to see if they have forwarded your results and passed.

I believe you will pass your medical. St. Luke's did there job by raising the red flag when the saw two annulments and the manner in which the annulments were filed. You have passed through the gauntlet of exams and proven your of sound mind and happy in your relationship. As proof of relationship, 9 years is a long enough time for proof of relationship . Time to get married after that . No doubt you two love each other (L) .

It's ok you were emotional in your feelings to the examiner. As long as you explained everything.

The examiner will not give you your results after the examination. They need to process and review. Then forward to St. luke's if all is passed.

Once you go to St. Luke's, I believe last thing you will need is vaccinations shots if needed.

God is good. We are praying with you. So you join the rest of the VJ'ers on the Journey to there loved ones.

In the meantime start double and triple checking your I-129f package and make sure all documents, forms and ID's are together in order.

God Bless you !!! Your strong and won't give up!!

Hi Wally:) thank you so much for the reply,im really touched.i will call on wednesday for the result,i just hope everything will be fine and proceed to my interview.i havent reschedule my interview yet,the lady from st.luke told me that they will rechedule my interview after the medical.i just hope there still slots.because my notice of approval is valid only until feb.26,2012.

im touched when i read"time to get married" i cant wait.we've been waited for years and i hope the consul will understand our situation.sometimes i always ask myself,why is it i needed to undergo this kind of hardship just to be with your love? i pray everyday,thanks for encluding me in your prayers,i really appreciate it:)

i have a question with my form 156? i have 2 annuled marriage and how can i write them on the form which theres only one box availabale? do i need to fill up then print? or can i print the form out then fill it up?

by the way,my fiance bought a house here in the philippines its under my name but i use his last name.do i need to show the title to the embassy just to prove that he's paying the monthly payment monthy? i dont know what else proof i need to show them.thanks wally:)

[Wally G! 58]

Hi Wally:) thank you so much for the reply,im really touched.i will call on wednesday for the result,i just hope everything will be fine and proceed to my interview.i havent reschedule my interview yet,the lady from st.luke told me that they will rechedule my interview after the medical.i just hope there still slots.because my notice of approval is valid only until feb.26,2012.

Everything will be fine

St. Luke's will reschedule your appointment with USEM. I am not sure how they re-schedule USEM appointments...??? I believe USEM is aware of the expire date. Hopefully they will fit you in before it expire. They can extend your NOA2 expire date but I am not 100% sure on that. Maybe Tahoma or another high level VJ'er can shed more knowledge on the expire date of NOA2...??

im touched when i read"time to get married" i cant wait.we've been waited for years and i hope the consul will understand our situation.sometimes i always ask myself,why is it i needed to undergo this kind of hardship just to be with your love? i pray everyday,thanks for encluding me in your prayers,i really appreciate it:)

God puts us through trials and tribulations . He will not give us more than we can take. Remember prayer, focus, determination and will power will keep you strong. Your fiancee is your rock, your goal, your love. True love and prayer will drive you to the mountain top. Just when you think your done , God reaches down and gives you more to keep going .

When you are finally complete with the process there and on the flight. Reflect back on the journey you went through and thank GOD for making you strong and giving your strength when it seem dark. Hug you husband to be and hold and tell him your my love. This process can only make you two even stronger. You have a story tell of how you over came this process and was triumphant!!! ^_^

i have a question with my form 156? i have 2 annuled marriage and how can i write them on the form which theres only one box availabale? do i need to fill up then print? or can i print the form out then fill it up?

Either or, you can fill out online then print or print and fill out will a pen. Fill it out online save paper and if you make a mistake. You can correct before printing.

On section 4. Martial Status. You would place your last spouse annulment and answer the remaining questions. Me being the make sure absolutely positive guy. I would call USEM and ask if you need to put both annulments on section 4. Again if any other VJ'ers can shine some light on this question. That would be awesome.

by the way,my fiance bought a house here in the philippines its under my name but i use his last name.do i need to show the title to the embassy just to prove that he's paying the monthly payment monthy? i dont know what else proof i need to show them.thanks wally:)

USEM is not concerned with properties in there. They will be concerned with the Affidavit of Support. They want to make sure he earns enough in USA to support you and himself. The property is your under Philippines Law. No foreigner can own land in the Philippines. He can own the house but not the land. No sure if that can be added as an asset on the form. If he earn above the USA poverty line. Then no need to include the property in the philippines.

Proof of relationship consist of:

Proof of your ongoing relationship. This needs to be taken to the interview! Include photos, travel documents, emails, etc from between the time you filed and present (NOA1 date-now).

Examples: Copies of phone bills, cell phone bills, emails (you can edit personal info with a marker), letters (edit personal info also), stamps on the letters (to document the date they were sent), and other written documentary proof. Provide a reasonable amount; two to four of each type. Pick a range of dates up to and including the present. You can also include a copy of engagement ring receipt (this is something that is a big optional - do not worry if you do not have a ring yet!)

Keep us posted. God bless you and your fiancee!! :star:

[caduceus37 0]

Everything will be fine

St. Luke's will reschedule your appointment with USEM. I am not sure how they re-schedule USEM appointments...??? I believe USEM is aware of the expire date. Hopefully they will fit you in before it expire. They can extend your NOA2 expire date but I am not 100% sure on that. Maybe Tahoma or another high level VJ'er can shed more knowledge on the expire date of NOA2...??

God puts us through trials and tribulations . He will not give us more than we can take. Remember prayer, focus, determination and will power will keep you strong. Your fiancee is your rock, your goal, your love. True love and prayer will drive you to the mountain top. Just when you think your done , God reaches down and gives you more to keep going .

When you are finally complete with the process there and on the flight. Reflect back on the journey you went through and thank GOD for making you strong and giving your strength when it seem dark. Hug you husband to be and hold and tell him your my love. This process can only make you two even stronger. You have a story tell of how you over came this process and was triumphant!!! ^_^

Either or, you can fill out online then print or print and fill out will a pen. Fill it out online save paper and if you make a mistake. You can correct before printing.

On section 4. Martial Status. You would place your last spouse annulment and answer the remaining questions. Me being the make sure absolutely positive guy. I would call USEM and ask if you need to put both annulments on section 4. Again if any other VJ'ers can shine some light on this question. That would be awesome.

USEM is not concerned with properties in there. They will be concerned with the Affidavit of Support. They want to make sure he earns enough in USA to support you and himself. The property is your under Philippines Law. No foreigner can own land in the Philippines. He can own the house but not the land. No sure if that can be added as an asset on the form. If he earn above the USA poverty line. Then no need to include the property in the philippines.

Proof of relationship consist of:

Proof of your ongoing relationship. This needs to be taken to the interview! Include photos, travel documents, emails, etc from between the time you filed and present (NOA1 date-now).

Examples: Copies of phone bills, cell phone bills, emails (you can edit personal info with a marker), letters (edit personal info also), stamps on the letters (to document the date they were sent), and other written documentary proof. Provide a reasonable amount; two to four of each type. Pick a range of dates up to and including the present. You can also include a copy of engagement ring receipt (this is something that is a big optional - do not worry if you do not have a ring yet!)

Keep us posted. God bless you and your fiancee!! :star:

Hi Wally,thanks for the advices and tips,i will not enclude the title of the house because my fiance said,he ears above the usa poverty line.about the letters and cards,i have bunch of cards but no dates.i mean,he writes messages but no date.i have a few latest cards with dates and fed ex receipts,we don't chat or emails because we talk on the phone via MAGIC JACK.i dont know how to explain that to the consul.my husband travels yearly since 2003,and i have a photo copy of his passport,and some tickets,hotel receipts.i have hundreds of pictures but i dont think i would submit them all,lol,

i maybe print the form and fill out with a pen.i dont know if the USEM will question me for that.what is the BAR CODE in the form?

you're right wally,my fiance is my rock,my love.im lucky to have him in my life,im lucky also to have you as my VJ friend.i hope and pray everything will be fine,there are times that i get sad and nervous thinking about my visa.i think of what if they denied my visa? i dont know what to do.

i will take your advice,i will just write my last marriage:) thanks wally:)

""When you are finally complete with the process there and on the flight. Reflect back on the journey you went through and thank GOD for making you strong and giving your strength when it seem dark. Hug you husband to be and hold and tell him your my love. This process can only make you two even stronger. You have a story tell of how you over came this process and was triumphant!!! ^_^ ""......this is very inspiring wally,you made me cry.you're right!...i be a better person and i will promise to share my experience to our vj friends,and help them also.i wont forget how you help me from the very first day i joined Vj...you're such a very good person,i wish i could thank you in person:)