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[OgaMum 4]

A friend of mine did the same thing, she married a guy that was engaged to another citizen on K1 visa. According to her, the guy and his fiance had some disagreements about how their marriage should be and decided to split. The guy never married and stayed in America knowing the stipulations of his K1 visa.

In less than 3 months, he managed to wooed my friend and they got married 2 weeks after meeting each other in USA. She found out that he was engaged to be married to his fiance when she found some information on Facebook and questioned him. She hates liars and cheaters with a passion and it didn't sit well with her that she was fooled.

She filed for an annulment and is happily married to a citizen. The guy was deported for immigration fraud with serious charges.

I am sorry to say this, you are being used of immigration purposes and I am most certainly positive your petition will be denied if not by USCIS, but by the embassy. It doesn't matter if you met him in his home country, but he was engaged to someone else. He is in America knowing he was there to marry the girl, something happened and the girl didn't accept him. He is searching for a lifeboat and you are available.

Look at it like this, a guy is engaged to someone on K1 visa and after some times managed to get through border patrol and now he is "single" and he has three months to make a decision after it didn't work out with his fiance. You guys are engaged while he is still in America on K1 visa with another fiance. I am thinking like a consular, I will look at the fact that the guy marries you while he is engaged to another woman and didn't inform embassy of the changes beforehand, I will certainly deny you and report you to the fraud unit. (not you, but the guy)

You are in love with a guy that is engaged to another woman. Make sure you are not doing this out of lust because it will surely pass and you will experience rejections from USCIS and Embassy. Is it worth it? Wait a few years and then see if you still "love" him.

Good luck!

[Justine+David 218]

Everyone thinks that immigration fraud would never happen to them when it does.

I'm not saying for sure that he is for it, but you have to tread very, very carefully.

No, you cannot adjust status from a K1 to someone other than the petitioner. The K1 is unique in that respect, unlike other visas. He will have to go back to his home country and it would be highly recommended that you visit him a few times over a year or so before you even think about petitioning him.

Turkey isn't exactly the richest country in the world and while it may not be fair, he won't be treated the same as someone from a wealthy country like the UK or Germany at the embassy. To a US Embassy officer, this whole thing stinks to high heaven and it's more likely that you would either a) be denied and have to start over or b) be put into AP which could as much as 6-8 more months on top of the initial visa of not knowing what's going on.

Many posters in this sort of situation get very defensive when VJers jump to the immigration fraud question. For the most part, we are good people who don't like to see other people taken advantage of and we've heard and seen it all. Yes, it's possible that your situation is different, but we are just telling you to take care.

One member married her guy with a bunch of red flags and even though they knew each other for a decent period prior, when he got here, he ended up beating her up. She had no idea that he would ever act that way. And she is intelligent, or at least her posts make her seem so. My heart breaks for people like that. We don't want you to be hurt.

What does your family think of him?

[Justine+David 218]

Everyone thinks that immigration fraud would never happen to them when it does.

I'm not saying for sure that he is for it, but you have to tread very, very carefully.

No, you cannot adjust status from a K1 to someone other than the petitioner. The K1 is unique in that respect, unlike other visas. He will have to go back to his home country and it would be highly recommended that you visit him a few times over a year or so before you even think about petitioning him.

Turkey isn't exactly the richest country in the world and while it may not be fair, he won't be treated the same as someone from a wealthy country like the UK or Germany at the embassy. To a US Embassy officer, this whole thing stinks to high heaven and it's more likely that you would either a) be denied and have to start over or b) be put into AP which could as much as 6-8 more months on top of the initial visa of not knowing what's going on.

Many posters in this sort of situation get very defensive when VJers jump to the immigration fraud question. For the most part, we are good people who don't like to see other people taken advantage of and we've heard and seen it all. Yes, it's possible that your situation is different, but we are just telling you to take care.

One member married her guy with a bunch of red flags and even though they knew each other for a decent period prior, when he got here, he ended up beating her up. She had no idea that he would ever act that way. And she is intelligent, or at least her posts make her seem so. My heart breaks for people like that. We don't want you to be hurt.

What does your family think of him?

[GnBnL 50]

ok, maybe it makes a difference.

i was on a fulbright to turkey last year. at the university, there was a man who was really nice and helpful and was a grad student in the department that my mentor is a part of. he was engaged to an american and sort of understood me and what it was like to be an american living abroad. since he was engaged, it felt safe to confide in him and we started talking and spending a lot of time together.

and then one thing led to another. he cried to me about how the distance with his fiancee was killing him. he asked my opinions about disagreements that they had. some of the things she wouldn't compromise with, some of the things he was finding hard to accept. and the process kept dragging out. we got really really close.

he had his interview, and i was really happy for him. i wanted him to be with his fiancee.

we got really close, really fast. and then things started happening and before we knew it, we were in love. its not what i wanted to happen but we just feel so right together.

and then, things ended between them right around the time that he got his visa. he didnt lie at the interview. he loved her-- i knew that from the beginning. he wanted to marry her. but it wasnt meant to be.

my fulbright ended, and i went back to the states. he came a few months later. he tried to make things right with his ex but it just didnt happen. i think he wanted to see her and to give her closure. so he came to me (she is in arizona, i am in maryland)and it was like a weight had been lifted. it just feels like the right thing for us to be together.

and i dont know what to do. hes here with me and i dont want to give that up. i want to spend the rest of my life with him.

I kknow things like this happen, but really, you just don't want to take any chances with immigration!! Bans are serious, and if have the chance to avoid one with no fault (even tho he already committed fraud, so he IS at fault) then take the chance out! he should return home and you should then file to petition him yourself. I would be careful tho because if he can't wait for someone that long, and he's going to have to do it again, I just hope he doesn't find someone new to confide in. I'm not trying to be rude or disrespectful, just be mindful of that is all. I wish you both luck and if you are in love, then give it a chance and don't put yourself through anything unnecessary just because you so badly want to be together now. YOu need to be patient especially if you plan on spending your lives together. The last thing you want is for him to be banned when you could have easily avoided it. You'd be kicking yourself for that. Good luck!

[fazmo 24]

No one can tell you that your fiancee is using you for immigration purposes. Yes, the description of your relationship fits well on fraudulent scenarios but at the same time life is not black and white. Things like this DO happen. How many stories have we heard the bride/groom bailing out while in their wedding attire - just because they loved someone else all along. The fact that there is immigration papers involved does not prove someone is using the other. I am not saying there are no red flags. There are so many of them (that he couldn't wait for his old fiance and started a relationship with another woman, that he lied to her and perhaps hid your relationship from her etc). I am saying there is also a chance the story is just what you have described - or a destiny as some may call it. Without going further into this, I would advice you to follow your heart. Be VERY alert and ask yourself a lot of questions. If your mind and soul are fully behind the relationship and all that comes with it, there is no reason not to fight for it. BUT....

You should also know that you are in a messy situation. He cannot adjust status in any way other than marrying the original fiancee. He will have to go back. In the future though, you will have to overcome so many obstacles and red flags. The ideal thing would have been for him to turn down (cancel) his K-1 visa. He did not and instead choose to enter the country through K-1 visa and then live/stay with you instead of the sponsoring petitioner. In my opinion, get married now in the US and immediately have him go back to his home country. Never ever try to file a new petition for him while he is in US with this status. Hire a good attorney and document everything that would show your marriage was entered in good faith. It may be a good idea to visit him one or more times in his homeland before you start spousal visa process. I will tell you why I suggested marrying in US. If he goes back to his homeland, single, USCIS or the CO will almost immediately presume that his subsequent petition/application is for green card purposes. The marriage will give him a slightly better chance than if he was not married to a US citizen. You will still need to overcome those red flags. But if a marriage is involved, they will need a good reason to deny your immigration benefits and you will have a better fighting chance. Of course, you should not enter into marriage unless you know you can live that man anywhere - just in case.