lost certificate of citizenship

[GuidedbyGODkatval 1]

my husband lost his certificate of citezenship.now we need this asap for my daughters CRBA.how long is the process to get a replacement of it?my visa is on hold becuse of this.will the embassy accept the photocopy of his citizenship?he has a us passport anyway.thanks

[Penguin_ie 5,997]

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[GuidedbyGODkatval 1]

thank you maam.anyway,do you have any suggestion?

[sheeshkabelle 153]

N-565, Application for Replacement Naturalization/Citizenship Document

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

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Are you sure that is the correct forum for CRBA issues?

[Penguin_ie 5,997]

Are you sure that is the correct forum for CRBA issues?

No, but this specific question was about the certificate of citizenship, not CRBA. The OP has a separate question about the CRBA issues she faces in the Philipines forum and how the CRBA issues will impact her own IR-1 visa on the FR1/ IT-1 visa forum.

[NickD 203]

Understand his US passport is just as good as his US certificate of citizenship.

Disregarding exorbitant fees, trying to think of any service the USCIS is quick on. By quick I mean within the next year or so.

Still thinking.

Still thinking.

Expecting you to post back that he found his US certificate of US citizenship.

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

If your husband has a U.S. passport, the one document needed to get the first U.S. passport, the Certificate of Citizenship, is no longer needed. For all practical purposes, a U.S. passport is proof of U.S. citizenship as the issuing federal agency, the U.S. Department of State, has reviewed the submitted proof of citizenship and found it sufficient.

Since we're at it, the CoC is really only needed in extreme cases. For example: Vietnamese girl has affair with G.I. during the 'Nam period of shame. When the Viet-Kong approach, the soldier disappears, but is found decades later selling trinkets in Podunk Holler, Nebraska. Now the Vietnamese/American daughter needs to prove that she is a U.S. citizen based on jus sanguinis, which is when a CoC is necessary.

[Penguin_ie 5,997]

The reason OP is asking is because she is applying for CRBA for her baby, and the USEM website (http://manila.usembassy.gov/service/citizenship/first-time-report-of-birth-abroad7.html) states:

"Evidence of parent’s(s’) U.S. citizenship. The U.S. citizen parent(s) must present his/her current and expired U.S. passports and a photocopy of each passport and each page. A notarized copy of the current U.S. passport and its pages is acceptable in lieu of the original. If the U.S. citizen parent was naturalized, he/she must bring the original Certificate of Naturalization and one photocopy."

[NickD 203]

The reason OP is asking is because she is applying for CRBA for her baby, and the USEM website (http://manila.usemba...th-abroad7.html) states:

"Evidence of parent's(s') U.S. citizenship. The U.S. citizen parent(s) must present his/her current and expired U.S. passports and a photocopy of each passport and each page. A notarized copy of the current U.S. passport and its pages is acceptable in lieu of the original. If the U.S. citizen parent was naturalized, he/she must bring the original Certificate of Naturalization and one photocopy."

Wow, the Embassy of the USA is under Homeland Security, as is the DOS, USCIS, and even now, a part of social security reports Homeland Security as they are keeping track of immigration status.

Apparently the Embassy of the USA does not trust the DOS, but does trust the USCIS for essentially the same documentation. And I see the Embassy of the USA also requests a photocopy of the certificate of naturalization. What they trust that copy? SS doesn't, even if you bring in your original certificate and a beautiful color copy of it, won't accept that. They insist on making a copy on their dirty old copy machine instead.

We just have too damned many different agencies doing the same thing, each with different laws, crazy. Or how about digging a water well on your own property requiring getting permission from 42 different governmental agencies. If there is low lands a hundred miles away, drawing a few gallons of the water may affect the mosquito population so there is an agency for that!

In regards to losing stuff, wife ask me to dig out a pin number for a calling card I got for her son, asked why? He lost it, well it was a darn good thing I had a copy of it, otherwise would be even more money down the drain. We are no different than Nazi Germany, have to keep track of your papers.

[GuidedbyGODkatval 1]

for me,why would they still ask my husbands original cert.of citizenship when he has already a u.s. passport?whats the purpose of showing them the cert.of naturalization?im now confused.

[GuidedbyGODkatval 1]

just wanna say thank you guys for all the infos youve given me.may GOD bless us all.

[NickD 203]

Once we got that US passport could bury that certificate, all other governmental agencies accepted it as proof of US citizenship. Even the USCIS accepted it when my wife petitioned for her son.

Could be a worthless argument with these embassies, but could try to explain for whatever reason his certificate was lost, destroyed or misplaced. But does have a US passport that practically any other government agency would accept.

They say it never hurts to ask, but the answer you receive may kill you. Are dealing with the life and future of a small child, maybe they will show some mercy. You don't know until you try, can also apply for a new certificate and show you are doing that. And at least you have a photocopy of his certificate.

Stepdaughter had her purse stolen one month before her citizenship interview, you women and your purses! Next morning in about twenty minutes and 17 bucks, she got a new drivers' license, but all that thief got was a copy of her green card, had her green card locked up in my safe. Why? Because any dealings with the USCIS is a complete pain in the #### with long delays and way overpriced rates. They claim they even need a photocopy of your certificate or the delay would be even longer. And then this certificate is just printed on a very low grade of paper and not even laminated.

So why can't they be like a lowly state level DMV, stepdaughter goes in, ask her SS number, get on the computer, yes this is you, did take a new photo, hit a button and a new license pops out all laminated in seconds. That will be $17.00.

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

He can't have a Certificate of Citizenship, if he received a Certificate of Naturalization. Maybe the O.P. should start over and tell us what Certificate we are talking about, really.

[GuidedbyGODkatval 1]

he was naturalized.but the certificate given to him is CERTIFICATE OF CITIZENSHIP.i already asked our embassy here in manila and told me that as long as the US passport is shown during the application that would be accepted for the mean time.thank GOD.