California's Only Elected Tea Party Member Fails in Hijack Attempt

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Effort to repeal California Dream Act comes up short

Critics of illegal immigration announced Friday that they were unable to obtain the needed 500,000 petition signatures to ask voters to repeal the California Dream Act signed into law last year by Gov. Jerry Brown.

In an email to supporters, Assemblyman Tim Donnelly (R-San Bernardino), the public face of the initiative drive, said petitioners had netted only 447,514 signatures to submit to the secretary of state by the deadline on Friday. They would have needed to submit well above the 504,760 threshold because some signatures are inevitably found to be invalid.

The law allows illegal immigrants to qualify for taxpayer-funded scholarships at California's public university systems.

"This is disappointing news," Donnelly said in his email, but he added: "It is no less of a warning to Governor Brown, and every Democrat legislator who voted to create a new entitlement program for illegals while the state still has a budget deficit over $9 billion, and cannot even meet it's obligation to legal California students."

It's been a rough week for Donnelly, the Assembly's only tea party legislator. On Wednesday, he was detained by police for trying to board a plane with a loaded handgun in his briefcase. Donnelly said he forgot the weapon was there.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/california-politics/2012/01/california-dream-act-repeal-falls-short.html

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i d watch out for the slander there buddy.

he has never been accused of an attempted hijacking.

would YOU want any wild accusations against you if you had a run in with the law?

Effort to repeal California Dream Act comes up short

Critics of illegal immigration announced Friday that they were unable to obtain the needed 500,000 petition signatures to ask voters to repeal the California Dream Act signed into law last year by Gov. Jerry Brown.

In an email to supporters, Assemblyman Tim Donnelly (R-San Bernardino), the public face of the initiative drive, said petitioners had netted only 447,514 signatures to submit to the secretary of state by the deadline on Friday. They would have needed to submit well above the 504,760 threshold because some signatures are inevitably found to be invalid.

The law allows illegal immigrants to qualify for taxpayer-funded scholarships at California's public university systems.

"This is disappointing news," Donnelly said in his email, but he added: "It is no less of a warning to Governor Brown, and every Democrat legislator who voted to create a new entitlement program for illegals while the state still has a budget deficit over $9 billion, and cannot even meet it's obligation to legal California students."

It's been a rough week for Donnelly, the Assembly's only tea party legislator. On Wednesday, he was detained by police for trying to board a plane with a loaded handgun in his briefcase. Donnelly said he forgot the weapon was there.

http://latimesblogs....alls-short.html

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http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/345968-is-california-gov-jerry-browns-ransom-budget-an-empty-threat/ <----- Here's the sinking ship called California. Have fun paying for your illegals and don't come to the Feds whining and crying for $$$ just because your state is a total failure with the intelligence and common sense of a peanut. Edited January 8, 2012 by Why_Me

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i d watch out for the slander there buddy.

he has never been accused of an attempted hijacking.

would YOU want any wild accusations against you if you had a run in with the law?

How do you slander a corrupt public official? This teabagger obviously wants to punish innocent children for the actions of their parents a decade or more in the past. California's lawfully elected officials decided not punish such promising residents of their state, and this racist wants to hijack the issue, and put it before the voters. Luckily, his attempt failed, and the people of California have more concern for the dignity of their fellow humans by ignoring his sniffling rants against such talented young people.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/345968-is-california-gov-jerry-browns-ransom-budget-an-empty-threat/ <----- Here's the sinking ship called California. Have fun paying for your illegals and don't come to the Feds whining and crying for $$$ just because your state is a total failure with the intelligence and common sense of a peanut.

Stop trying to hijack my threads!

Edited January 8, 2012 by ☼

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http://articles.latimes.com/2009/feb/02/local/me-cap2

Illegal immigrants are a factor in the budget gap math

February 02, 2009|GEORGE SKELTON

FROM SACRAMENTO — Based on my e-mail, a lot of folks think the solution to California's state budget deficit is to round up all the illegal immigrants and truck them down to Mexico.

Wrong. Even if it were logistically possible and the deportees didn't just climb off the truck and hitch another ride back up north, their absence from the state wouldn't come close to saving enough tax dollars to balance a budget that has a $42-billion hole projected over the next 17 months.

Painful cuts in education, healthcare and social service programs still would be needed. Sharp tax increases would be required.

That said, let's be honest: Illegal immigration does cost California taxpayers a substantial wad, undeniably into the billions.

But it hasn't been PC for officeholders to talk about this for years, ever since Gov. Pete Wilson broke his pick waging an aggressive campaign for Proposition 187. That 1994 ballot initiative sought to bar illegal immigrants from most public services, including education. Voters approved the measure overwhelmingly, but it was tossed out by the courts.

Wilson was demonized by Democrats within the Latino community. And many think the Republican Party never has recovered among this rapidly growing slice of the electorate.

So it's not a topic that comes easily to the tongues of politicians, even Republicans.

Besides, most of the policy issues are out of California's hands. The federal government has jurisdiction over the border. Federal law decrees that every child is entitled to attend public school, regardless of immigration status. And every person -- here illegally or not -- must be cared for in hospital emergency rooms.

But the state does add a few benefits that aren't required.

And as Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and legislative leaders dig into the books trying to find billions in savings, at least a brief look at what's being spent on illegal immigrants seems in order.

First, nobody seems to know exactly. Numbers vary widely, depending which side they come from in the ongoing angry debate over whether people who entered the country illegally to work should be allowed to stay or loaded on the southbound truck.

But here are some no-agenda numbers:

There were 2.8 million illegal immigrants living in California in 2006, the last year for which there are relatively good figures, according to the nonpartisan Public Policy Institute of California. That represented about 8% of the state's population and roughly a quarter of the nation's illegal immigrants. About 90% of California's illegal immigrants were from Latin America; 65% from Mexico.

There are roughly 19,000 illegal immigrants in state prisons, representing 11% of all inmates. That's costing $970 million during the current fiscal year. The feds kick in a measly $111 million, leaving the state with an $859 million tab.

Schools are the toughest to calculate. Administrators don't ask kids about citizenship status. Anyway, many children of illegal immigrants were born in this country and automatically became U.S. citizens.

If you figure that the children of illegal immigrants attending K-12 schools approximates the proportion of illegal immigrants in the population, the bill currently comes to roughly $4 billion. Most is state money; some local property taxes.

Illegal immigrants aren't entitled to welfare, called CalWORKs. But their citizen children are. Roughly 190,000 kids are receiving welfare checks that pass through their parents. The cost: about $500 million, according to the nonpartisan Legislative Analyst's Office.

Schwarzenegger has proposed removing these children from the welfare rolls after five years. It's part of a broader proposal to also boot off, after five years, the children of U.S. citizens who aren't meeting federal work requirements. There'd be a combined savings of $522 million.

The state is spending $775 million on Medi-Cal healthcare for illegal immigrants, according to the legislative analyst. Of that, $642 million goes into direct benefits. Practically all the rest is paid to counties to administer the program. The feds generally match the state dollar-for-dollar on mandatory programs.

So-called emergency services are the biggest state cost: $536 million. Prenatal care is $59 million. Not counted in the overall total is the cost of baby delivery -- $108 million -- because the newborns aren't illegal immigrants.

The state also pays $47 million for programs that Washington does not require: Non-emergency care (breast and cervical cancer treatment), $25 million; long-term nursing home care, $19 million; abortions, $3 million.

Schwarzenegger has proposed requiring illegal immigrants to requalify every month for Medi-Cal benefits, except pregnancy-related emergencies.

There also are other taxpayer costs -- especially through local governments -- but those are the biggies for the state. Add them all up and the state spends well over $5 billion a year on illegal immigrants and their families.

Of course, illegal immigrants do pay state taxes. But no way do they pay enough to replenish what they're drawing in services. Their main revenue contribution would be the sales tax, but they can't afford to be big consumers, and food and prescription drugs are exempt.

My view is this: These people are here illegally and shouldn't be, regardless of whether they're just looking for a better life. Do it the legal way. And enforce the law against hiring the undocumented.

Meanwhile, California should be honest about the costs. Illegal immigrants are not the sole cause of the state's deficit. But they are a drain.

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February 02, 2009

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February 02, 2009

Do you think those numbers got better in the last two years or worse? California's unemployment rate is right around 12%...way above the national average, yet illegals make up over 10% of California's work force. Add the cost of paying the bills for instate tuition for illegals and California with the recent laws passed by California.

Now you do the math.

Edited January 8, 2012 by Why_Me

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one post removed, post returned below minus two personal insults towards a member of this board.

ILLEGAL immigration is a crime against MY country and against every legal immigrant who comes here.

if those kids have a problem it is with their parents. it is with every dirbag who employs them and every scumbag politician who continues to promise them the world

and never deliver.

when i need a new tv and car and some food can i come to your house and steal/take what i am "owed" by you because i broke the law?

it is our country, this is our community and we set the standards of it's laws. we all choose to obey these laws which serve to make it liveable here.

illegals bring NOTHING good to us. crime, steal us blind, rob us and then demand their "rights"

displace our own workers.

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http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/345968-is-california-gov-jerry-browns-ransom-budget-an-empty-threat/ <----- Here's the sinking ship called California. Have fun paying for your illegals and don't come to the Feds whining and crying for $$$ just because your state is a total failure with the intelligence and common sense of a peanut.

California is among the states actually paying more to the Feds than it receives. States like Alaska and much of flyover country, on the other hand, lives from contributions states like California make. Funny for folks residing in these federal teat sucking states to make these kinds of statements.

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California is among the states actually paying more to the Feds than it receives. States like Alaska and much of flyover country, on the other hand, lives from contributions states like California make. Funny for folks residing in these federal teat sucking states to make these kinds of statements.

Iv'e only explained this like a hundred times on this board already, but here goes one more time for the slow learners. Alaskan Natives get tens of millions of dollars a year via the BIA. Now I would like nothing more than to see those natives get cut off from the Fed teet and pay their own way like everyone else.

As far as California goes with paying into the Feds...California has more Congressional members representing it than any other state. If they are so lame that they can't cut their state a better deal than it's on them. In the mean time it's a fact California is broke, it's deeper in the hole than any state out there, it has the worst credit rating of any state and the hole keeps getting deeper. Apparently California isn't too worried about it or they wouldn't be spending billions to make lives for illegals in that state more cushy. California has even went as far as to crack down on E-verify saying it was targeted against illegals.

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Iv'e only explained this like a hundred times on this board already, but here goes one more time for the slow learners. Alaskan Natives get tens of millions of dollars a year via the BIA. Now I would like nothing more than to see those natives get cut off from the Fed teet and pay their own way like everyone else.

As far as California goes with paying into the Feds...California has more Congressional members representing it than any other state. If they are so lame that they can't cut their state a better deal than it's on them. In the mean time it's a fact California is broke, it's deeper in the hole than any state out there, it has the worst credit rating of any state and the hole keeps getting deeper. Apparently California isn't too worried about it or they wouldn't be spending billions to make lives for illegals in that state more cushy. California has even went as far as to crack down on E-verify saying it was targeted against illegals.

And still, California feeds the very teat Alaska is sucking on. Aren't you currently sucking on the federal teat yourself? You're an Alaska native, too?

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ScottnIzabela, on 08 January 2012 - 12:28 PM, said:

ILLEGAL immigration is a crime against MY country and against every legal immigrant who comes here.

if those kids have a problem it is with their parents. it is with every dirbag who employs them and every scumbag politician who continues to promise them the world

and never deliver.

when i need a new tv and car and some food can i come to your house and steal/take what i am "owed" by you because i broke the law?

it is our country, this is our community and we set the standards of it's laws. we all choose to obey these laws which serve to make it liveable here.

illegals bring NOTHING good to us. crime, steal us blind, rob us and then demand their "rights"

displace our own workers.

Too bad I missed the personal insults. I bet those were just as clever as the rest of your reply.

This king of racial intolerance has no place in an immigration forum, and certainly is not welcome in California. Next time you eat a salad, snack on some fresh fruit, or drink a glass of wine, I hope the bile eroding the back of your throat doesn't cause you too much discomfort when you think of all the brown people that snuck over and under the border to bring it to you.

And still, California feeds the very teat Alaska is sucking on. Aren't you currently sucking on the federal teat yourself? You're an Alaska native, too?

No, Kip is Washington state wetback.

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And still, California feeds the very teat Alaska is sucking on. Aren't you currently sucking on the federal teat yourself? You're an Alaska native, too?

I'm an Alaskan native? That's news to me. Actually I'm of Frisian and Norwegian decent. No Hun blood running through my veins. Again I have no problem with the Feds cutting off Alaskan natives...Eskimo's, Aleuts, and Indians. Write your Congressman about it, I know plenty here have.

California is sinking and sinking fast. That's a fact. California does nothing to rectify the problem, they only make it worse. Now if someone likes broke ####### states that cater to illegals, then be my guest. In the meantime Alaska is over $40 billion to the good.

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I'm an Alaskan native? That's news to me.

I didn't make a statement, I asked a question. Yous aid that the natives are the federal teat suckers. You're currently a federal teat sucker. Fair question, then, isn't it?

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If we nuked California our economy would shrink immediately by $2 trillion!

California's gross domestic product ticked up 1.8% in 2010 to $1.9 trillion, a sign that the state's fragile recovery took hold last year.

If California were an independent country, it would have the ninth-highest GDP in the world, with higher output than Canada's but lower than Italy's, according to data from the

International Monetary Fund. It has the highest GDP in the U.S., topping Texas, which saw its GDP grow 2.8% in 2010, to $1.2 trillion.

California's per capita GDP in 2010, at $46,488, was one of the higher in the nation. Alaska topped the nation in per capita GDP, at $63,424, while Mississippi had the lowest GDP in the country, at $29,345.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/money_co/2011/06/california-gdp.html