School Shooting discussion gets my son in trouble??

[Penny Lane 8,159]

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I don't know the CBC had an article on it last April http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/04/21/columbine-littleton-mall-fire.html

Toronto Star also had articles about it in 2010 and 2009. So it's still very much a topic of news not only in the US, even 10+ years later.

And here's an article from the UK news just from August of the past year.

Again, just depends on how much people pay attention to the news, not everyone does. Kids though are still hearing about it in their schools though in Canada, maybe not every kid as it appears, but a good majority still have heard about it just because any violence now seen in schools are all related back to it. And you see that quite often in the news still around the world...

I personally don't know many 12 year olds who go online to read newspaper articles.

[Stuart and Thea 95]

I personally don't know many 12 year olds who go online to read newspaper articles.

I was going to post the same. I personally wouldn't allow my kid to go online for anything without supervision, and looking up news from other countries is just not something that he's asked if he can do yet. I don't know many grade school history classes that teach about mass murders. I would find it inappropriate if they did.

As to asking a person in Colorado if they know more about the Columbine murders than they do, while that's like asking someone from Newfoundland if they drink Screech. Like asking an Australian if they've seen a kangaroo. It's one of the things we know about Colorado, so what else are we going to talk about?

I'm sure there will be a lot of things that happened in the US that my son has never heard of. Violence wise, I can think of Charles Manson, Timothy McVeigh, the car snipers, and quite a few more... No reason to question how he could not have heard of them because of them being so famous... I'm sure that there are countless atrocities and murders from around the world that he hasn't heard of. I don't think that's anything weird, in fact, if he had heard of them all, THAT would be weird...

[warlord 73]

I personally don't know many 12 year olds who go online to read newspaper articles.

It's referenced in TV shows, parents read articles, kids learn from their parents and tv, kids talk about it at school. I didn't read newspaper articles as a kid either, but I heard all about the Sid and Nancy killings and the hostages in Iran. They see the news on Tv with their parents, they hear it on the radio their parents listen too. Anytime something gets referenced in the news, people tend to talk about it. I still hear stuff talked about the JFK murder in the news or the Tsunami in Thailand or the Challenger space shuttle explosion in the 80's. So it's all out there and word travels. Hell I learned a lot of stuff at school from other kids about past things that I asked my parents about.

Anyways we're getting off topic here and don't want to side track Stuarts & Thea's thing here. So did you end up talking to the school about it yet?

[Stuart and Thea 95]

Anyways we're getting off topic here and don't want to side track Stuarts & Thea's thing here. So did you end up talking to the school about it yet?

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/345639-school-shooting-discussion-gets-my-son-in-trouble/page__view__findpost__p__5087859

Snapback to the post where I answer this.

Update for you, my son has come home and told me that the kids on the bus are always saying that they're going to blow up the school, and the bus, etc. I've talked about it with him, asked him if he's scared that they might, and asked him if it's appropriate for them to say those things. (they actually pretend they have an ignition that they press and countdown to the explosion) He said it's not. I asked him if they should be searched for weapons. He said no. I asked him if he would feel better knowing that they didn't really have weapons. He said yes. I explained to him, that while he knows they're just joking, even knowing that can sometimes leave a little doubt. I told him that the school's response to that doubt, instead of just talking to the kids and asking them, and telling them those games are inappropriate, are to take it very seriously, and to red flag those kids. I told him that they didn't want any one to say that they did nothing, in case it turned out one day that those kids really weren't pretending, that they really meant it, and that is what they were doing with him. He said okay. Then he asked if there was a way for them to search ALL the kids every day, just in case, because it's the ones that aren't joking about it that scare him the most.

GAH!!! I guess if a kid thinks this way, I can understand where the administration is coming from, I mean, a lot of them have the mental acuity of a small child, I'm sure...

[warlord 73]

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/345639-school-shooting-discussion-gets-my-son-in-trouble/page__view__findpost__p__5087859

Snapback to the post where I answer this.

Update for you, my son has come home and told me that the kids on the bus are always saying that they're going to blow up the school, and the bus, etc. I've talked about it with him, asked him if he's scared that they might, and asked him if it's appropriate for them to say those things. (they actually pretend they have an ignition that they press and countdown to the explosion) He said it's not. I asked him if they should be searched for weapons. He said no. I asked him if he would feel better knowing that they didn't really have weapons. He said yes. I explained to him, that while he knows they're just joking, even knowing that can sometimes leave a little doubt. I told him that the school's response to that doubt, instead of just talking to the kids and asking them, and telling them those games are inappropriate, are to take it very seriously, and to red flag those kids. I told him that they didn't want any one to say that they did nothing, in case it turned out one day that those kids really weren't pretending, that they really meant it, and that is what they were doing with him. He said okay. Then he asked if there was a way for them to search ALL the kids every day, just in case, because it's the ones that aren't joking about it that scare him the most.

GAH!!! I guess if a kid thinks this way, I can understand where the administration is coming from, I mean, a lot of them have the mental acuity of a small child, I'm sure...

I'm, surprised the bus driver hasn't reported them. Not sure how the whole school system works, but aren't bus drivers party of the school system or are they an independent thing that are not actually tied to the schools at all?