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Going to deny that they haven't falsified, omitted data to get the results they were wanting? Going to deny that they threatened peer review publications were threatened with a loss of material if they allowed contrary opinion peer review and to only allow like minded scientists to peer review their published work?

Setting aside your crazy conspiratorial views, the science of Global Warming is solid. There is no smoking gun. It doesn't even require anything beyond a Junior High understanding of science to understand the cause and effect of CO2 emissions on the earth's temperature. But I suppose someone like you would rather hold onto fantastical theories based on conjecture and conspiracy rather than on real science. That's ok. The world moves forward with or without your permission.

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Setting aside your crazy conspiratorial views, the science of Global Warming is solid. There is no smoking gun. It doesn't even require anything beyond a Junior High understanding of science to understand the cause and effect of CO2 emissions on the earth's temperature. But I suppose someone like you would rather hold onto fantastical theories based on conjecture and conspiracy rather than on real science. That's ok. The world moves forward with or without your permission.

So I take it that you are going to deny. Big surprise.whistling.gif

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Setting aside your crazy conspiratorial views, the science of Global Warming is solid. There is no smoking gun. It doesn't even require anything beyond a Junior High understanding of science to understand the cause and effect of CO2 emissions on the earth's temperature. But I suppose someone like you would rather hold onto fantastical theories based on conjecture and conspiracy rather than on real science. That's ok. The world moves forward with or without your permission.

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Setting aside your crazy conspiratorial views, the science of Global Warming is solid. There is no smoking gun. It doesn't even require anything beyond a Junior High understanding of science to understand the cause and effect of CO2 emissions on the earth's temperature. But I suppose someone like you would rather hold onto fantastical theories based on conjecture and conspiracy rather than on real science. That's ok. The world moves forward with or without your permission.

it's solid in your sorrowful head that's looking for answers that are beyond your common understanding. It's not different than a religious zealot trying to shove his views down everyone's throat.

The difference in science and religion is science ATTEMPTS to prove what it preaches, but at the end of the day, none of it is concrete and all of it is theory and will remain as such until debunked by the next "scientist" who understands things better and has the balls to push even further.

Just look at the garbage you post... Can't eat red meat anymore... causes global warming.... can't drive cars anymore.... causes global warming.... can't use coal, natural gas, etc... causes global warming.. can't breathe normally... causes global warming...

So everything allegedly causes global warming, big whoop. The reality is though, "climate change" is about as natural as us getting up in the morning and sleeping every night.

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Maybe easier to google, "climategate". Want me to also start posting how each of the famous reports that are said to be so called proof of GW were falsified also?

Also wanted to add that it wasn't my bolded part but yours.

Bolded was to point out something in your OP to ask for further clarification by me. Standard use. I didn't want to take out of context your statement.

ah - "climategate" emails is first thing a lot of people bring up.

gotcha...

I looked into those - and what the deniers state is not supported by facts - from those "hacked" emails..

Here is something that can state it better than I can.

My link

and

My link

He shows, quite clearly - the talking heads ran off at the mouth - and didn't really understand what they were saying about in these emails.

Now - I am not stating that their are liars, false data, and the such on both sides, but the majority of the hard science shows a change in climate, the discussion now is if it's caused by man or not.

BTW - My link starts a video series by a reporter - that goes over the whole thing - he actually gives sources and you can follow the links to the actual discussion - not re-written/worded things from the blogs. Give it a look. He goes over both sides - pointing out the flaws from them, and giving suggestions for more research.

I like to see evidence based on peer reviewed science papers - that can hold up to the light - not blogs/magazines - etc... (sure - things like that can lead you to the science work - but I wouldn't use them as my only go to source.)

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I like to see evidence based on peer reviewed science papers - that can hold up to the light - not blogs/magazines - etc... (sure - things like that can lead you to the science work - but I wouldn't use them as my only go to source.)

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The deniers tend to over-complicate things by trying to find a 'smoking gun' in the actual scientific research and by doing so, they miss the big picture. There is no debate that:

#1 Greenhouses gases trap solar heat from the sun, making the earth's climate habitable for life.

#2 CO2 is a greenhouse gas.

#3 The burning of fossil fuels adds a significant amount of CO2 into the atmosphere.

#4 As more CO2 in the form of emissions accumulates into the atmosphere, more solar heat is trapped, thereby warming the planet further.

#5 The raising of the earth's temperature even slightly can cause significant changes to the climate. And while the earth has gone through warming and cooling cycles in the past, the rate of change for those cycles took thousands to hundreds of thousands of years, which gave much of life on the planet a fighting chance to adapt. The rate of the current change is happening rapidly in comparison and has the potential to cause catastrophic damage to life as we know it on earth.

With these deniers, it's difficult to pin them to one specific scientific fact they don't like. Some of them flat out deny that the earth is getting warmer, while some of them accept that GW is happening, but refuse to believe that human activity (CO2 emissions) could have that kind of impact, and some who say the warming trend is a natural occurrence and there's nothing to worry about. All of those positions require rejecting the science in some form or another, even when you break it down, the facts behind the science are solid as shown above.

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