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Hello everyone,

I'm glad I stumbled upon this site. Here is my situation. I have been dating a girl from South America for about 3 years. We just got engaged a few weeks back when I went down to visit her. We first met in the USA when she was visiting on a temporary work visa while in college. After that, she got a tourist visa which she has had for about 2 years. I have been down there about 4 times and she has been up here about 4 times and has always left on time, no overstays.

So, I am an American citizen. I have been reading a few options. It seems as though the fiance visa or the i 130 are the most common ways. What I couldn't find is this....

Lets say she comes on her tourist visa in March. Can we file for a fiance visa while she is here? Then a month or so before it is ready she can travel back to her home country and then re-enter with the fiance visa and then we can marry within 90 days? Or when I file the fiance visa, does she have to be in South America? We want to be together as much as possible, as we have already spent years apart and it is difficult. We also want to do this 100% legally, which is why we want to get married on a fiance visa or get married abroad and file a i 130. We don't want to risk getting married on a tourist visa. Please let me know if what I described is feasible?

Thanks in advance!

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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You can get married on a tourist visa, there is nothing illegal about doing so, she would have to depart the US when her authorized stay expires.

Our journey:

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September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

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February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Australia
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You can file for your fiance visa while she's in the US if you want to do it that way... or you could get married while she's in the US, send her home, and file for a 'married' visa. You could even marry her while she's legally in the country and file from here before she goes home at all. The really important part is the 'legal' bit. If you've got proof of a three-year-relationship to show the USCIS, you've got the biggest hurdle done already.

Karen - Melbourne, Australia/John - Florida, USA

- Proposal (20 August 2000) to marriage (19 December 2004) - 4 years, 3 months, 25 days (1,578 days)

STAGE 1 - Applying for K1 (15 September 2003) to K1 Approval (13 July 2004) - 9 months, 29 days (303 days)

STAGE 2A - Arriving in US (4 Nov 2004) to AOS Application (16 April 2005) - 5 months, 13 days (164 days)

STAGE 2B - Applying for AOS to GC Approval - 9 months, 4 days (279 days)

STAGE 3 - Lifting Conditions. Filing (19 Dec 2007) to Approval (December 11 2008)

STAGE 4 - CITIZENSHIP (filing under 5-year rule - residency start date on green card Jan 11th, 2006)

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*Oath Ceremony March 23, 2012.

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The above advice is accurate. She can be here for processing so long as she does NOT overstay. Depending on how long it takes and how much time she is given upon entry to the US, it could be a month or several she will be waiting in her country.

OUR TIMELINE

I am the USC, husband is adjusting from B2.

ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS

08.06.2010 - Sent off I-485
08.25.2010 - NOA hard copies received (x4), case status available online: 765, 131, 130.
10.15.2010 - RFE received: need 2 additional photos for AP.
10.18.2010 - RFE response sent certified mail
10.21.2010 - Service request placed for biometrics
10.25.2010 - RFE received per USCIS
10.26.2010 - Text/email received - AP approved!
10.28.2010 - Biometrics appointment received, dated 10/22 - set for 11/19 @ 3:00 PM
11.01.2010 - Successful biometrics walk-in @ 9:45 AM; EAD card sent for production text/email @ 2:47 PM! I-485 case status now available online.
11.04.2010 - Text/Email (2nd) - EAD card sent for production
11.08.2010 - Text/Email (3rd) - EAD approved
11.10.2010 - EAD received
12.11.2010 - Interview letter received - 01.13.11
01.13.2011 - Interview - no decision on the spot
01.24.2011 - Approved! Card production ordered!

REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS

11.02.2012 - Mailed I-751 packet to VSC
11.08.2012 - Checks cashed
11.10.2012 - NOA1 received, dated 11.06.2012
11.17.2012 - Biometrics letter received for 12.05.2012
11.23.2012 - Successful early biometrics walk-in

05.03.2013 - Approved! Card production ordered!

CITIZENSHIP

Filing in November 2013

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it is also important to note that entering the US on a non-immigrant visa (aka tourist visa) with the intent to immigrate (aka marry in the US and then adjust status to STAY in the US) is immigration fraud.

21 oct 08 : i-129F sent / 22 oct 08 : NOA1 / 23 feb 09: NOA2 / 13 mar 09 : rec'd 'packet 3' / 28 mar 09 : rec'd 'packet 4' / 20 apr 09 : interview / 22 apr 09 : passport/visa delivery by courier / 29 apr 09 : POE @ PHL / <3 05 may 09 : married <3 / 06 jul 09 : AOS submitted / 09 jul 09 : NOA for EAD/AP/i-485 / 28 jul 09 : biometrics / 31 aug 09 : AP rec'd / 02 sep 09 : EAD rec'd / 19 oct 09 : conditional green card rec'd

16 jul 11 : i-751 sent to VSC (fedex)

18 jul 11 : fedex confirmed delivery; NOA1 generated

20 jul 11 : NOA1 notice rec'd; check cashed; touch

26 jul 11 : NOA2 generated

28 jul 11 : NOA2 biometrics appt letter rec'd

29 jul 11 : letter req biometrics appt rescheduling sent

09 aug 11 : biometrics appt (could not attend); NOA3 generated

11 aug 11 : NOA3 (rescheduled) biometrics appt letter rec'd

24 aug 11 : biometrics appt

14 oct 11 : conditional green card expiry date

16 nov 11 : filed AR-11 for LPR online

18 nov 11 : mailed i-865 for USC

22 nov 11 : moved house; NOA4 change of address for USC rec'd

13 dec 11 : filed AR-11 for LPR by phone

29 dec 11 : filed hardcopy AR-11 for LPR by mail

18 jan 12 : 6 month mark ROC

05 apr 12 : approval letter rec'd

16 jul 12 : n-400 filing window opens

immediate concerns:

none, immigration-wise.
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You can file for your fiance visa while she's in the US if you want to do it that way... or you could get married while she's in the US, send her home, and file for a 'married' visa. You could even marry her while she's legally in the country and file from here before she goes home at all. The really important part is the 'legal' bit. If you've got proof of a three-year-relationship to show the USCIS, you've got the biggest hurdle done already.

Thank you for the response. Just to clarify a few things, my fiance could come here on her tourist visa, we could file for the fiance visa and then she could return to South America when it is available, and then re-enter with the new fiance visa? (this all with no overstays of course). I know that people say marrying on a tourist visa and then adjusting is "visa fraud", but doesn't the fact that she is here legally, not overstayed on her tourist visa, and the fact that she has had it for 2 years and during that time has come and gone without overstay about 4-5 times...doesn't this all factor in to prove that her intention for getting the tourist visa 2 years back was not for the purpose of marriage?

Also, which option do you think would be better so that we would spend LESS time apart if we can't marry and then adjust? We would definitely file the new visa while she is still here, so would the fiance visa or the i 130 be better to lessen the time apart from each other?

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You are correct. She should bring strong evidence of ties to her country when traveling to prove she doesn't intend to stay.

The fiancé and spousal visa are similar in processing times. With a spousal visa she would enter as an LPR, be eligible to work immediately, and the cost is cheaper. With a fiancé visa she would need to adjust status when she arrives, but assuming you have seen each other in the last 2 years that could be filed right now before she even visits. Either way, she can continue to visit on her tourist visa at the discretion of CBP - hence providing strong ties to her country upon arrival.

OUR TIMELINE

I am the USC, husband is adjusting from B2.

ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS

08.06.2010 - Sent off I-485
08.25.2010 - NOA hard copies received (x4), case status available online: 765, 131, 130.
10.15.2010 - RFE received: need 2 additional photos for AP.
10.18.2010 - RFE response sent certified mail
10.21.2010 - Service request placed for biometrics
10.25.2010 - RFE received per USCIS
10.26.2010 - Text/email received - AP approved!
10.28.2010 - Biometrics appointment received, dated 10/22 - set for 11/19 @ 3:00 PM
11.01.2010 - Successful biometrics walk-in @ 9:45 AM; EAD card sent for production text/email @ 2:47 PM! I-485 case status now available online.
11.04.2010 - Text/Email (2nd) - EAD card sent for production
11.08.2010 - Text/Email (3rd) - EAD approved
11.10.2010 - EAD received
12.11.2010 - Interview letter received - 01.13.11
01.13.2011 - Interview - no decision on the spot
01.24.2011 - Approved! Card production ordered!

REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS

11.02.2012 - Mailed I-751 packet to VSC
11.08.2012 - Checks cashed
11.10.2012 - NOA1 received, dated 11.06.2012
11.17.2012 - Biometrics letter received for 12.05.2012
11.23.2012 - Successful early biometrics walk-in

05.03.2013 - Approved! Card production ordered!

CITIZENSHIP

Filing in November 2013

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