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Man, I wish I had a dollar for every person getting all fired up over this.

I've tried to exlpain to them, "The military has had the authority to detain you since 1950. This is nothing new. Get over it." If you read through the controversial part of the bill it specifically prohibits this from being used against American citizens. Furthermore, it authorize NO funds for detention of folks at Guantanimo to be detained here. NO transport. NO new facilities. NO new programs. NO dention in the States.

So, if they're not bringing the folks from Guantanimo here.... where are they getting all this new funding to detain Americans?

Psssssssssssst, Slim, we use this to get Dems PO'd at Obama...go with it.

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hoodwinking people on the internet is apparently great sport, aye?

In the meantime - it's business as usual - nothing changed since 1950 (as Slim mentions)

What's the fuss over this one thing? It's a written 'law' codifying the already-in-place practice.

No Big Deal.

I can understand the hue and cry, though, when lumped together with Barry's other 'issues' - somethings foul, amiss.

And why would anyone care WHY someone doesn't vote for Obama? I go with it!

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And why would anyone care WHY someone doesn't vote for Obama? I go with it!

You should not vote for Obama for the right reasons, not due to made up drivel ala the OP.

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it clearly offers absolutely no protections of U.S. citizens. In fact, it affirms that Americans are subjected to indefinite detainment under "existing authorities."

Americans are protected from indefinite detainment under "existing authorities" as well. Most notably, the US Constitution.

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If the government is going to force me to exercise my "right" to health care, then they better start requiring people to exercise their Right to Bear Arms. - "Where's my public option rifle?"

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Americans are protected from indefinite detainment under "existing authorities" as well. Most notably, the US Constitution.

You mean this one that you can drive a truck through?

The privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.

U.S. Constitution - Article 1 Section 9

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You mean this one that you can drive a truck through?

I'm not familiar with that one.

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Ensure your beneficiary makes and brings with them to the States a copy of the DS-3025 (vaccination form)

If the government is going to force me to exercise my "right" to health care, then they better start requiring people to exercise their Right to Bear Arms. - "Where's my public option rifle?"

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Thats what I said.

He continued the wars on Bush's time schedule, despite saying he would end them sooner, he has extended this invasion of our privacy, extended the Bush tax cuts, which are now the "Obama tax cuts", insisted on the defunding of medicare and Social Security Killed American citizens by remote control without a trial.

we actually have no indication any of our other rights will be respected.

And still you guys call him a communist, when he in fact is not much different from Baby Bush at all!

He's a corporatist, and he has to answer his masters, plain and simple. There's really not much he can do, for once, because he has only very little wiggle room, and then because he has no balls at all.

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

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And still you guys call him a communist, when he in fact is not much different from Baby Bush at all!

He's a corporatist, and he has to answer his masters, plain and simple. There's really not much he can do, for once, because he has only very little wiggle room, and then because he has no balls at all.

He's a sleazeball politician that is worried about his legacy. Sheesh, a wet-behind-the-ears community organizer, and he is already worried how history will tread him three-quarters the way through his first term as Campaigner-in-Chief. This is Jimmy Carter redux. I wonder if Barry and Eric will take the ant-American show on the road like Jimmy and Ramsey.

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You mean this one that you can drive a truck through?

I'm not familiar with that one.

It's in the Constitution.

Hold on there, buddy. We all have come to know slim as one of the true defenders of the Constitution. Are you suggesting that he is staunchly defending a document that he is actually quite unfamiliar with? Man, that's a bummer.

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Hold on there, buddy. We all have come to know slim as one of the true defenders of the Constitution. Are you suggesting that he is staunchly defending a document that he is actually quite unfamiliar with? Man, that's a bummer.

"So what if that's what the constitution says."

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Ensure your beneficiary makes and brings with them to the States a copy of the DS-3025 (vaccination form)

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