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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Belarus
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Dear Visa Journey Members:

My wife needs to travel in July 2012.

She would like to visit her home country to:

1) Go to a friends marriage

2) Renew her passport (expires in 2013)

3) Visit family

The problem is she arrived in the US July 2010. This means during the time of her travel, her Form I-751,Petition to Remove the Conditions of Residence will most likely be pending.

I wonder if it is possible. The only thing I found that might help is I-131, Application for Travel Document.

Does anyone have experience?

Best,

Matthew

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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You should file to remove conditions 90 days before the expiration of her green card. She should get a document extending her residency status which indicates that it is good for work and travle. THIS is what she'll use, along with her expired green card and passport, to travel. NOT the I131

Good luck

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Belarus
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You should file to remove conditions 90 days before the expiration of her green card. She should get a document extending her residency status which indicates that it is good for work and travle. THIS is what she'll use, along with her expired green card and passport, to travel. NOT the I131

Good luck

I have heard it may take 90 days or more to receive this document. What was your experience?

My problem is, I do not want to buy plane tickets and she does not receive the extension letter/document in time.

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The extension letter comes with your NOA1, or is the same thing. That comes in a week. It extends her status for a year. That means she can travel on her old GC and extension letter for a year (after the old GC expires). I suggest you head over to the ROC forum and check it out!

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5/23/12: Sent out package
2/06/13: APPROVED!

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About 1 week to 10 days after you guys have mailed in the I-751 package, the NOA1 which extends the validity of your wife's Green Card will arrive in the mail.

She still will have to wait for the NOA2, which is the biometrics appointment letter, before leaving the U.S., assuming that she'll be able to do a walk-in, as many VJ members have done it. Then the only hypothetical obstacle would be that USCIS calls you in for an interview. Although unlikely, you may be randomly picked to satisfy the quota needed.

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Belarus
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About 1 week to 10 days after you guys have mailed in the I-751 package, the NOA1 which extends the validity of your wife's Green Card will arrive in the mail.

She still will have to wait for the NOA2, which is the biometrics appointment letter, before leaving the U.S., assuming that she'll be able to do a walk-in, as many VJ members have done it. Then the only hypothetical obstacle would be that USCIS calls you in for an interview. Although unlikely, you may be randomly picked to satisfy the quota needed.

Hmm.... I wonder if the biometrics appointment is reschedulable same with USCIS interview.

So If I understand correctly, NOA1 allows you to travel, but you are required to be present for NOA2 and interview. Technically the interview can be requested at any time of the process (so she is not safe to leave until conditions are removed).

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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2) Renew her passport (expires in 2013)

This can be done in the US through the Belarusian Embassy in Washington DC. She does not need to travel to Belarus to renew her passport.

Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ireland
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Biometrics and the interview can be rescheduled, but it delays the process and when it comes to rescheduling an interview you run the risk that your local office didn't get the memo even if the main office did and then you end up denied. I wouldn't recommend it.

The good news is, most people don't get an interview with ROC. The other good news is, you won't get an interview letter or biometrics letter that says "show up tomorrow" ... you'll get a couple weeks warning.

How long is your wife planning to be gone for? How difficult would it be for her to return during that time period if you did get an interview notice?

OUR TIMELINE

I am the USC, husband is adjusting from B2.

ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS

08.06.2010 - Sent off I-485
08.25.2010 - NOA hard copies received (x4), case status available online: 765, 131, 130.
10.15.2010 - RFE received: need 2 additional photos for AP.
10.18.2010 - RFE response sent certified mail
10.21.2010 - Service request placed for biometrics
10.25.2010 - RFE received per USCIS
10.26.2010 - Text/email received - AP approved!
10.28.2010 - Biometrics appointment received, dated 10/22 - set for 11/19 @ 3:00 PM
11.01.2010 - Successful biometrics walk-in @ 9:45 AM; EAD card sent for production text/email @ 2:47 PM! I-485 case status now available online.
11.04.2010 - Text/Email (2nd) - EAD card sent for production
11.08.2010 - Text/Email (3rd) - EAD approved
11.10.2010 - EAD received
12.11.2010 - Interview letter received - 01.13.11
01.13.2011 - Interview - no decision on the spot
01.24.2011 - Approved! Card production ordered!

REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS

11.02.2012 - Mailed I-751 packet to VSC
11.08.2012 - Checks cashed
11.10.2012 - NOA1 received, dated 11.06.2012
11.17.2012 - Biometrics letter received for 12.05.2012
11.23.2012 - Successful early biometrics walk-in

05.03.2013 - Approved! Card production ordered!

CITIZENSHIP

Filing in November 2013

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Belarus
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This can be done in the US through the Belarusian Embassy in Washington DC. She does not need to travel to Belarus to renew her passport.

I tried convincing her the same. Saves us a few thousand dollars. But I think she is a little homesick and wants to visit friends (+marriage) and family.

Biometrics and the interview can be rescheduled, but it delays the process and when it comes to rescheduling an interview you run the risk that your local office didn't get the memo even if the main office did and then you end up denied. I wouldn't recommend it.

The good news is, most people don't get an interview with ROC. The other good news is, you won't get an interview letter or biometrics letter that says "show up tomorrow" ... you'll get a couple weeks warning.

How long is your wife planning to be gone for? How difficult would it be for her to return during that time period if you did get an interview notice?

She would only be gone for about a month.

I figure if I give strong evidence, the chance of an interview lessens.

On a side note, how often do people's finger prints change? She had to give them to get her CR1, now she has to give them again? Weird stuff.

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I honestly have no idea why they fingerprint again - I would assume it is to make sure the person hasn't committed any crimes in the meantime they aren't being up front about, but I don't know why they don't use the ones on file!

I would definitely send as much evidence as possible. I don't know how they determine the interviews - our IO told us it was totally random in order to meet the quota, while someone interviewed in the same office as us on the same day was told it was evidence-based. If I were you, I'd send the ROC paperwork the full 90 days in advance because that way you have a pretty good shot at getting the biometric notice before she leaves and can probably do a walk-in if needed once the letter is received. Hopefully she won't get an interview notice, but if she does it should come about a month in advance so you'll be prepared. If possible, I'd buy tickets that you can change just in case you get an interview notice the week before she leaves or something for 3 weeks out, but I know those can be costlier. It's a bit of a gamble, but with her only being gone for a month chances are good it won't be an issue so long as biometrics is taken care of.

OUR TIMELINE

I am the USC, husband is adjusting from B2.

ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS

08.06.2010 - Sent off I-485
08.25.2010 - NOA hard copies received (x4), case status available online: 765, 131, 130.
10.15.2010 - RFE received: need 2 additional photos for AP.
10.18.2010 - RFE response sent certified mail
10.21.2010 - Service request placed for biometrics
10.25.2010 - RFE received per USCIS
10.26.2010 - Text/email received - AP approved!
10.28.2010 - Biometrics appointment received, dated 10/22 - set for 11/19 @ 3:00 PM
11.01.2010 - Successful biometrics walk-in @ 9:45 AM; EAD card sent for production text/email @ 2:47 PM! I-485 case status now available online.
11.04.2010 - Text/Email (2nd) - EAD card sent for production
11.08.2010 - Text/Email (3rd) - EAD approved
11.10.2010 - EAD received
12.11.2010 - Interview letter received - 01.13.11
01.13.2011 - Interview - no decision on the spot
01.24.2011 - Approved! Card production ordered!

REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS

11.02.2012 - Mailed I-751 packet to VSC
11.08.2012 - Checks cashed
11.10.2012 - NOA1 received, dated 11.06.2012
11.17.2012 - Biometrics letter received for 12.05.2012
11.23.2012 - Successful early biometrics walk-in

05.03.2013 - Approved! Card production ordered!

CITIZENSHIP

Filing in November 2013

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Hmm.... I wonder if the biometrics appointment is reschedulable same with USCIS interview.

So If I understand correctly, NOA1 allows you to travel, but you are required to be present for NOA2 and interview. Technically the interview can be requested at any time of the process (so she is not safe to leave until conditions are removed).

Nope,

you misunderstood.

As I was saying . . . the NOA1 is the extension of her Green Card. That's the green light to travel. BUT, before she can take off, she needs to attend biometrics. The NOA2 is the biometrics appointment letter. It will come another week or two weeks later, with an appointment again weeks in the future. Your wife should not wait for this appointment. The moment she has the NOA2 in her hand, she travels to the nearest biometrics office, hands the NOA2 and her Green Card to the bulldog at the door, and pretends she's there for her appointment. Well, she is, but a few weeks early. If the bulldog complains, she will tell her it's an emergency, show her plane ticket, and that she has to leave to save her mother's life. That works in 90% of all cases. Once she is done with biometrics, meaning 20 minutes later, she can take off.

It is highly unlikely that you will have an interview, but it's possible. Most people have no interview at the RoC stage. Only those who have unusual cases, people who file with a waiver, and then a few randomly picked couples for no other reason than because. If that happens . . . well, it's time to get on a plane back.

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There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

President Teddy Roosevelt on Columbus Day 1915

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Filed: Country: Japan
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Hi,

I am getting little confused...

I thought NOA "I-751 Receipt Notice" is receipt of I-751 at the same time this NOA extend my green card period one more year.

so If i travel outside USA i have to bring NOA "I-751 receipt notice" and my old green card (and passport for sure)

thats it. (btw I finished bio)

Am I correct?

or are they have any different NOA saying only Extend your green card??

Thanks

08/2005 met husband but we were friends at first

2006 getting serious relationship :)

07/2007 Japan trip

11/2007 start live together

07/2008 Hawaii trip for my Best girl Wedding and for vacation of course!!

05/04/2009 Become Husband & Wife

05/17/2009 Submit AOS I-130, I-485, I-131, I-765

05/20/2009 delivered Chicago LockBox(Day 1)

05/26/2009 checks withdraw (Day 7)

05/30/2009 Received NOA for I-130, I-485, I-131, I-765!!! (Day 11)

06/05/2009 Received BIO letter on 06/16/2009 3:00PM (Day 17)

06/13/2009 Received Yellow RFE to submit I-693 (Day 25)

06/16/2009 Complete BIO (in-out 45 mins) (Day 28)

06/23/2009 Sent RFE(I-693) (Day 35)

06/26/2009 RFE delivered signed for by C GERDES. (Day 38)

07/06/2009 Case processing has resumed (Day 48)

07/17/2009 I-765 card production ordered!! yey! & AP approval notice sent (Day 59)

07/24/2009 EAD approval notice sent (Day 66)

07/25/2009 GOT AP!! (Day 67)

08/03/2009 EAD Received!! (Day 76)

08/12/2009 Got Interview Letter!! Interview will be on Sep 9th!! (Day 85)

08/13/2009 SSN Card in hand!

09/09/2009 Interview and approved!! & Card production ordered!!

09/14/2009 Welcome letter received! & approval letter for I-130!

09/18/2009 GOT GC!!

09/05/2011 Submit I-751

09/07/2011 Received NoA I-751 Receipt Notice

09/15/2011 Received Bio Letter

10/13/2011 Complete Bio

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