Dates Question

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

You sound like one of those people who will report to the IRS even if they find 1 old, ragged red cent on the street corner at the worst part of your city. Am I right?

Falsifying information is grounds for denial.

[Tahoma 2,291]

What do you mean? I've never lied on anything, and if i DO tell the truth on the 2 forms by putting the date that she actually signed it, then it's going against what you all recommend so that's why I'm a lil confused...

If you never lie on anything, why would you be asking about what to say? You would know to simply tell them the truth. If you had to ask, then there must be more than one answer swirling around in your mind.

By the way, where did I recommend dating the document a different day than you signed it?

Okay so I'm thinking of just putting a month or a couple weeks ago.... they wont know if I sent it to her then she just signed it then sent it back to me anyway, right?

It seems we have come full circle. Since you don't lie, if they ask about the document, tell them the truth about your fraud. It's as simple as that. Right?

[Dorah 6]

Hi all!

I'm a new member here and was wondering about the dates. My fiance signed both G-325A & Fiance Letter of Intent when I was there in January of this year but left the date blank because we weren't ready to file it yet. Now I am ready to file, so what date should I put? The present date or does it not matter? Just want to make sure everything is perfect!

Thank you so much in advance.

You can email the forms to her then she prints them out,signs them and scans them back to you.Its what i did and was approved with no problem

[bigdog 376]

It is stuff like this that makes it hard on VJ members who do this correctly and honestly with USCIS. If this part is fudged what will the rest be like? USCIS will see through you in a heart beat.

[Afrikan Queen 11]

Hi all!

I'm a new member here and was wondering about the dates. My fiance signed both G-325A & Fiance Letter of Intent when I was there in January of this year but left the date blank because we weren't ready to file it yet. Now I am ready to file, so what date should I put? The present date or does it not matter? Just want to make sure everything is perfect!

Thank you so much in advance.

I would just fill out another form, scan and email or fax it to your fiance. Then they send it back the same way. It's rather simple. Best regards.

[Enigma11561 336]

If all the information is current, has not changed, and is accurate, I believe that is the most important part. I had my then fiancee sign several blank copies when I visited her and took them home. When I was going through this, I had gone through several revisions as I was correcting mistakes and so forth, and when I was finished, that was the date I put on the paper. I see nothing wrong, or fraudulent in putting in a date when you actually submit the paperwork.

[Hank_ 9,174]

But guys, cant I get in trouble for false information? I am here in the United States, she lives in Philippines and has never been here so if I put a current date (example today), then what if they ask how she signed it while I am here and she's there? I'm leaving to see her soon but want to submit my I-129f package before I go....

Sending paperwork FedUp or USPS???

Just put a reasonable date on them for having mailed them back and forth if it works in your mind. I emailed the forms and Amy sent them FedUp back to me.

[Wishing on a Star 4]

If you're worried about it, is it that hard for her to mail you a new copy with the signature and date on it? My fiance sent me and I sent each other all sorts of papers back and forth for the I-129f.

[StraightShooter 62]

If you're worried about it, is it that hard for her to mail you a new copy with the signature and date on it? My fiance sent me and I sent each other all sorts of papers back and forth for the I-129f.

Okay, I have questions about this subject. Several people have said to email documents, have the fiancee sign, then scan and email or fax back. However, if a form instruction calls for an original signed document, does a scanned or faxed signature meet the requirement for being original? If yes, then great! That would save us a lot of time and expense.

As for mailing to and from the Philippines where the OP's fiancee lives, yes it can be a problem. Last summer I mailed my Pinay something via USPS international flat rate priority mail and it took SEVEN weeks for her to receive it. It cost me $14US but had I wanted to send the same thing via DHL or FedEx to get faster delivery, it would have cost me $150US. Expensive! And while the USPS got it there in 2 weeks, it sat in the Philippine postal system for five weeks before it was available for delivery.

And now we're looking at mailing back her letter of intent and G-325a. Wish I'd thought of all that while I was there with her because it would save us some time. She and I just chatted about this last night (my time) and she was saying it might take a month or more for me to receive the documents.

I sure hope that a faxed copy is acceptable!

[J and S 38]

You sound like one of those people who will report to the IRS even if they find 1 old, ragged red cent on the street corner at the worst part of your city. Am I right?

LMFAO! Thank you for the laugh. ... As you know what they say about people who ASSUME.

[BughouseMaster 3]

Okay, I have questions about this subject. Several people have said to email documents, have the fiancee sign, then scan and email or fax back. However, if a form instruction calls for an original signed document, does a scanned or faxed signature meet the requirement for being original? If yes, then great! That would save us a lot of time and expense.

As for mailing to and from the Philippines where the OP's fiancee lives, yes it can be a problem. Last summer I mailed my Pinay something via USPS international flat rate priority mail and it took SEVEN weeks for her to receive it. It cost me $14US but had I wanted to send the same thing via DHL or FedEx to get faster delivery, it would have cost me $150US. Expensive! And while the USPS got it there in 2 weeks, it sat in the Philippine postal system for five weeks before it was available for delivery.

And now we're looking at mailing back her letter of intent and G-325a. Wish I'd thought of all that while I was there with her because it would save us some time. She and I just chatted about this last night (my time) and she was saying it might take a month or more for me to receive the documents.

I sure hope that a faxed copy is acceptable!

I agree with you! It DOES say originals when it comes to the forms so that's another thing that worries me. Do you not have the opportunity to go see her? In my case, when I last saw her the beginning of this year, I had her sign the fiance letter of intent as well as G-325A. But.... while I was already there it totally skipped my mind (or i didn't see?!) that she needed a passport pic too! So she just mailed that to me recently and yesterday I spent the entire day making copies of hotel receipts, passport stamps, bus tickets & airline receipts!! Now I'm ready to mail my packet in.... (YEAH!!!)

If all the information is current, has not changed, and is accurate, I believe that is the most important part. I had my then fiancee sign several blank copies when I visited her and took them home. When I was going through this, I had gone through several revisions as I was correcting mistakes and so forth, and when I was finished, that was the date I put on the paper. I see nothing wrong, or fraudulent in putting in a date when you actually submit the paperwork.

Well said! Cant agree with you more, even though most people "sign and date" on the same day, I've many times dated something much more current than when I actually signed the form, and dont ever remember that being an issue, so why should this right?

[J and S 38]

Okay, I have questions about this subject. Several people have said to email documents, have the fiancee sign, then scan and email or fax back. However, if a form instruction calls for an original signed document, does a scanned or faxed signature meet the requirement for being original? If yes, then great! That would save us a lot of time and expense.

As for mailing to and from the Philippines where the OP's fiancee lives, yes it can be a problem. Last summer I mailed my Pinay something via USPS international flat rate priority mail and it took SEVEN weeks for her to receive it. It cost me $14US but had I wanted to send the same thing via DHL or FedEx to get faster delivery, it would have cost me $150US. Expensive! And while the USPS got it there in 2 weeks, it sat in the Philippine postal system for five weeks before it was available for delivery.

And now we're looking at mailing back her letter of intent and G-325a. Wish I'd thought of all that while I was there with her because it would save us some time. She and I just chatted about this last night (my time) and she was saying it might take a month or more for me to receive the documents.

I sure hope that a faxed copy is acceptable!

I believe that faxed signatures are still considered binding and ok. But I'm not 100% sure. Hopefully someone could clear that up if they've done it with these forms successfully.

But have you also tried USPS International Express? I use that, and it costs me around $35-50 dollars (depending on the weight of the package), and gets to the destination in about 1-1 1/2 weeks. Seems that many people use FedEx though. Not sure.

[Tahoma 2,291]

But have you also tried USPS International Express?

^^^ Warning: when the package arrives in Manila, USPS hands it over to the Filipino postal service.

@OP...I would never risk a 221g because I was too cheap/lazy to submit an original document...especially when dealing with the U.S. Embassy Manila.

[StraightShooter 62]

...Do you not have the opportunity to go see her?...

I just got back 2 weeks ago, so no plans right now for another visit anytime soon. As for the passport pic, that's not an issue, because she'll have an electronic version that she can email to me and I'll just print it out here. Here's hoping that we can find a more affordable and timely way to get it done.

[love&cinta 8]

But guys, cant I get in trouble for false information? I am here in the United States, she lives in Philippines and has never been here so if I put a current date (example today), then what if they ask how she signed it while I am here and she's there? I'm leaving to see her soon but want to submit my I-129f package before I go....

Tell her to make a new letter and sign it with the current date, then send it to you asap, later she will have an additional proof of ongoing relationship by showing the airway bill/ shipping receipt from her in philippines to you in U.S