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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: China
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Hello all,

I'm a long time reader, infrequent poster. Thank you in advance for reading my post and any advice you can send my way.

My wife came to the USA earlier this year and our process is finally over, for the moment (hurray!). However a new process has begun for us; bringing her mother here to live with us. I am not having any difficulties with her process, in fact she is already here with us as of last week. My problem and question has to do with something different, and probably very difficult to answer.. She is actually leaving her extremely abusive partner of over 30 years (they never married for some strange reason). They are from mainland China, btw. It has been made known to us that he is going crazy back home and is threatening to travel here to confront her and drag her back to China. Now, for starters, just to get my wife's mother a tourist visa on her initial trip here, it took a lot of documents from myself as well as my father, who acted as an additional sponsor. To me, I don't see how he could get his own tourist visa without my help, but my wife and her mother are convinced that since his sister and his sister's husband in China are rich and somewhat politically connected, that they can help him circumvent this process and get him a tourist visa, if they choose to help him.

To me, this sounds crazy because I don't see how it can be as simple as some money to sway the American Embassy...I also don't think his sister and her husband would help him come over here in what could only be seen as a path to a violent confrontation between the two that would result in him being thrown in jail/deported, but they are taking his side in this situation saying that even if a husband beats hife wife, it's still family and family stays together (give me a break!), so maybe they would be that ridiculous, I just don't know anymore and am worried.. Forgive me if I am rambling, there is a lot going on in my mind right now...

So, to get to my actual question. Is there any way that I could possibly make it more difficult for him to obtain a tourist visa? Like warn someone via phone call to the US consulate? Anything at all, we are desperate to not have to live the nightmare that this whole situation could become. He is an older man and I know I can protect them if I am around but if I am at work and god forbid he just showed up at the door from a taxi cab without me around...what can be done? He is not coming here for sight seeing..this is serious. I just don't know what to do.

Thank you so much again for any help and advice, my family sincerely appreciates it.

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: China
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'Third Party Correspondence' can be useful.

that's all I'm saying about this.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: China
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Isn't the mother going back to China, she arrived on a tourist visa. What will she do when she arrives back in China, if you'll get invovle in his visa process?

She will be returning but to a different city very far away, until we have her whole ordeal finished to get here permanently. She feels safer in China actually, I assume because she understands life there infinitely better, but she will not be prepared to move to this new city for about another 2 months.

As for Third Party Correspondence, I am not sure what that means exactly but I will begin to google it and try to gain some knowledge of what that might mean, thank you.

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: China
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limit your google search to SITE searches, where the SITE is a US Consulate/Embassy in China (there are 5)

Sometimes my language usage seems confusing - please feel free to 'read it twice', just in case !
Ya know, you can find the answer to your question with the advanced search tool, when using a PC? Ditch the handphone, come back later on a PC, and try again.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: China
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You've not lived until you've gotten in the middle of Chinese Clan dispute, in China.

Tain't fun.

If you need some reading material, study 'endoftheroad' 's stuff.

Sometimes my language usage seems confusing - please feel free to 'read it twice', just in case !
Ya know, you can find the answer to your question with the advanced search tool, when using a PC? Ditch the handphone, come back later on a PC, and try again.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: China
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limit your google search to SITE searches, where the SITE is a US Consulate/Embassy in China (there are 5)

Thank you very much.

So with what you have posted, does he knows where the mother is stayinh, here in the USA. The US is a large country, would he be able to locate her, if he gets a visa? Why go thru all of this trouble.

Unfortunately he knows our apartment area, all that is missing is the apartment number. I have already instructed our apartment offices to not give out our information to anyone regardless of reason presented except for our listed emergency contacts, however I do not trust them to adhere to my request fully. As for why go through all of the trouble, he has never been the same after he had a brain aneurysm two years ago. It's as if his sense of right and wrong were lost somehow, now all he seems to function on is anger, rage, jealousy, etc. He is unfortunately not well in the head, although good enough to trick those he wants for a while if he knows what he wants.

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Vietnam
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Darnell has the best advice. B2 visas are almost entirely discretionary, and a consular officer can give almost any reason for denying one. In China, B2 visas are denied far more often than they are approved, so it wouldn't look the least bit unusual if he was denied. Unfortunately, having money can make a big difference. The most common reason for denial is lack of strong ties that would compel the applicant to return without overstaying. Having money and being well connected is a big part of that.

If he manages to get a tourist visa then have the local cops on speed dial. One incident of domestic violence is all it would take to have him booted from the US and have his tourist visa revoked. It may even be enough to have him determined to be inadmissible to the US thereafter.

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Hello all,

I'm a long time reader, infrequent poster. Thank you in advance for reading my post and any advice you can send my way.

My wife came to the USA earlier this year and our process is finally over, for the moment (hurray!). However a new process has begun for us; bringing her mother here to live with us. I am not having any difficulties with her process, in fact she is already here with us as of last week. My problem and question has to do with something different, and probably very difficult to answer.. She is actually leaving her extremely abusive partner of over 30 years (they never married for some strange reason). They are from mainland China, btw. It has been made known to us that he is going crazy back home and is threatening to travel here to confront her and drag her back to China. Now, for starters, just to get my wife's mother a tourist visa on her initial trip here, it took a lot of documents from myself as well as my father, who acted as an additional sponsor. To me, I don't see how he could get his own tourist visa without my help, but my wife and her mother are convinced that since his sister and his sister's husband in China are rich and somewhat politically connected, that they can help him circumvent this process and get him a tourist visa, if they choose to help him.

To me, this sounds crazy because I don't see how it can be as simple as some money to sway the American Embassy...I also don't think his sister and her husband would help him come over here in what could only be seen as a path to a violent confrontation between the two that would result in him being thrown in jail/deported, but they are taking his side in this situation saying that even if a husband beats hife wife, it's still family and family stays together (give me a break!), so maybe they would be that ridiculous, I just don't know anymore and am worried.. Forgive me if I am rambling, there is a lot going on in my mind right now...

So, to get to my actual question. Is there any way that I could possibly make it more difficult for him to obtain a tourist visa? Like warn someone via phone call to the US consulate? Anything at all, we are desperate to not have to live the nightmare that this whole situation could become. He is an older man and I know I can protect them if I am around but if I am at work and god forbid he just showed up at the door from a taxi cab without me around...what can be done? He is not coming here for sight seeing..this is serious. I just don't know what to do.

Thank you so much again for any help and advice, my family sincerely appreciates it.

If he is qualified for a visa, then he is qualified for a visa....it's not as if he would answer questions that relate to the issues above....our embassies receive tons of 'poison pen' letters, but who can say with a certainty that all of these are accurate? Why would someone at the embassy believe you versus the applicant? Your 'word' about something is ...well,...just words. Without proof, what do you have?

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: China
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Darnell has the best advice. B2 visas are almost entirely discretionary, and a consular officer can give almost any reason for denying one. In China, B2 visas are denied far more often than they are approved, so it wouldn't look the least bit unusual if he was denied. Unfortunately, having money can make a big difference. The most common reason for denial is lack of strong ties that would compel the applicant to return without overstaying. Having money and being well connected is a big part of that.

If he manages to get a tourist visa then have the local cops on speed dial. One incident of domestic violence is all it would take to have him booted from the US and have his tourist visa revoked. It may even be enough to have him determined to be inadmissible to the US thereafter.

I actually have followed Darnell's advice and have found a phone number that I can call for just this type of situation, now all I have to do is wait for the correct time to call. I honestly hate to take such a drastic measure, but I fear I have been left with no other option. Thank you for your insights in to this :)

If he is qualified for a visa, then he is qualified for a visa....it's not as if he would answer questions that relate to the issues above....our embassies receive tons of 'poison pen' letters, but who can say with a certainty that all of these are accurate? Why would someone at the embassy believe you versus the applicant? Your 'word' about something is ...well,...just words. Without proof, what do you have?

This is precisely why I created this topic, to find out 'without proof, what do you have'. And indeed I do have some steps I can take that I have found through this discussion.

Again, thank you everyone who responded with help and advice.

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: China
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Unca Darnell say , 'Go Postal' .. Telephonic is OK, but to Go Postal? Oh My.

Sometimes my language usage seems confusing - please feel free to 'read it twice', just in case !
Ya know, you can find the answer to your question with the advanced search tool, when using a PC? Ditch the handphone, come back later on a PC, and try again.

-=-=-=-=-=R E A D ! ! !=-=-=-=-=-

Whoa Nelly ! Want NVC Info? see http://www.visajourney.com/wiki/index.php/NVC_Process

Congratulations on your approval ! We All Applaud your accomplishment with Most Wonderful Kissies !

 

 
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