8-year-old American girl target of extremist Jews in Israel

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Are you saying my reply was anti Semitic ? Read up on Jewish history in Europe please before making such post. Thank you.

http://exlibris.org.ua/mirchuk/r08.html <------ Everything in that piece can be easily researched using google. Have at it.

Here's a fun little slideshow you may find helpful. Hit the next button to view the next slide

http://lib.calpoly.edu/research/tutorials/101/choose.html#slide_1

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Are you saying my reply was anti Semitic ? Read up on Jewish history in Europe please before making such post. Thank you.

http://exlibris.org.ua/mirchuk/r08.html <------ Everything in that piece can be easily researched using google. Have at it.

Yes, implying that Jewish people as a group in some way caused or "deserved" centuries of pograms in Europe, or the Holocaust - yes, this is indeed anti-Semitic. Yes, implying that the Hebrew language does not have words to express peace and co-existence is anti-Semitic.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Here's a fun little slideshow you may find helpful. Hit the next button to view the next slide

http://lib.calpoly.edu/research/tutorials/101/choose.html#slide_1

Just curious AJ, but what would it be like if you ever made a post on here that had anything to do with the OP? Try it once, you might just like it.

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Just curious AJ, but what would it be like if you ever made a post on here that had anything to do with the OP? Try it once, you might just like it.

I might not. Why ruin a perfectly good thing?

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Yes, implying that Jewish people as a group in some way caused or "deserved" centuries of pograms in Europe, or the Holocaust - yes, this is indeed anti-Semitic. Yes, implying that the Hebrew language does not have words to express peace and co-existence is anti-Semitic.

No doubt the Jews got hosed throughout the centuries in Europe. But what you don't seem to understand is that the Jews did some hosing on their part also.

Try the Bolshevik cause which was the biggest known genocide in Europe to date, even surpassing the invasion of Europe by the Golden Horde. And it wasn't just a "few Jewish people" that were involved in the Bolshevik cause. Google Kressy Pogrom, Kaytn Forest Massacre, Holodomor, and Cheka for starters. That's just the beginning but it should give you enough to go on for awhile.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

No doubt the Jews got hosed throughout the centuries in Europe. But what you don't seem to understand is that the Jews did some hosing on their part also.

Try the Bolshevik cause which was the biggest known genocide in Europe to date, even surpassing the invasion of Europe by the Golden Horde. And it wasn't just a "few Jewish people" that were involved in the Bolshevik cause. Google Kressy Pogrom, Kaytn Forest Massacre, Holodomor, and Cheka for starters. That's just the beginning but it should give you enough to go on for awhile.

It doesn't matter if there were 500 or 5,000 or 50,000 Jewish criminal Bolsheviks in Russia - this still does not mean that the entire Jewish people are to blame. Implying that pograms or the Holocaust were justified because of some Jewish criminals in Russia is just blatant bigotry.

If this has to be explained to you, well, there's the problem.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

It doesn't matter if there were 500 or 5,000 or 50,000 Jewish criminal Bolsheviks in Russia - this still does not mean that the entire Jewish people are to blame. Implying that pograms or the Holocaust were justified because of some Jewish criminals in Russia is just blatant bigotry.

If this has to be explained to you, well, there's the problem.

You missed the point...as usual. Nobody here is excusing the Holocaust. That would be idiotic on anyone's part to excuse something like that...sick and idiotic.

Here's something to chew on. It wasn't just a few thousand Jews involved in the Bolshevik cause, it was in the millions. They say one 1 of 3 Cheka/GRU/NKVD guards were Jewish. Now if you don't know what those initials stand for let me know and I will explain it, otherwise google it.

Jewish organizations in the US donated an estimated $21,000,000 to the Bolshevik cause in the early 20th century up until the late 30's. That was big money back then. Do you really think the Palestinians were the first people to be on the short end of the stick in regards to Zionist? Ya right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast <---- ever heard of that before? If not then read on it.

Well over 5 million Ukrainians starved to death during the Holodomor. Deporting Eastern Europeans to an almost sure death was another Bolshevik favorite. Children, old people, you name it....loaded onto cattle cars in the middle of winter on their way to Siberian work camps. Those same Bolsheviks are the ones who helped set up the nation of Israel.

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[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

You missed the point...as usual. Nobody here is excusing the Holocaust. That would be idiotic on anyone's part to excuse something like that...sick and idiotic.

Here's something to chew on. It wasn't just a few thousand Jews involved in the Bolshevik cause, it was in the millions. They say one 1 of 3 Cheka/GRU/NKVD guards were Jewish. Now if you don't know what those initials stand for let me know and I will explain it, otherwise google it.

Jewish organizations in the US donated an estimated $21,000,000 to the Bolshevik cause in the early 20th century up until the late 30's. That was big money back then. Do you really think the Palestinians were the first people to be on the short end of the stick in regards to Zionist? Ya right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast <---- ever heard of that before? If not then read on it.

Well over 5 million Ukrainians starved to death during the Holodomor. Deporting Eastern Europeans to an almost sure death was another Bolshevik favorite. Children, old people, you name it....loaded onto cattle cars in the middle of winter on their way to Siberian work camps. Those same Bolsheviks are the ones who helped set up the nation of Israel.

The fact that Jewish criminals exist or have existed somewhere in the world does not rationalize your sweeping stereotypes about the Jewish people of the world.

Anyway, you don't get it and you're not going to get it, so extended discussions are useless.

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The fact that Jewish criminals exist or have existed somewhere in the world does not rationalize your sweeping stereotypes about the Jewish people of the world.

Anyway, you don't get it and you're not going to get it, so extended discussions are useless.

Nice try with the stereotyping. Your trying to find something that's not there. I never said "all Jews" and I never implied "all Jews". Jews as do other people come in all forms and sizes. What I did say is that the Jews in Europe didn't always play nice. Having a hand in killing millions of people in order to gain an autonomous homeland in Russia Far East isn't what I would call "playing nice" by any means.

I just noticed something with you. It's ok to complain about what's happening in Israel/Palestine, but it's not ok to point out facts to where millions of people were murdered in Europe. I call that being a hypocrite.

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Why not? You deport a bunch of those ultra jewish wingnuts to a rock in the middle of the ocean and watch just how fast the rest of them start towing the line. And the ones that refuse...deport their ####### also. Why should anyone have to put up with their religious #######? I sure wouldn't. I'd be kicking some ####### big time if that was my kid that got spit on. I would make sure they wished they were never born by the time I was done with em.

Well,

you may remember that there was a guy who tried that. Almost succeeded, until the U.S. intervened. Had they not done that, we would not have any of these problems today. The term Middle East crisis would not have been coined. But I don't think such a proposal would find much support these days. Now we can all be outraged and point fingers in various directions. Doesn't change a thing. The world is what it is, and the world now includes Israel, a state that was created out of thin air and religious claims of the chosen people. It will get worse before it will get better.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Well,

you may remember that there was a guy who tried that. Almost succeeded, until the U.S. intervened. Had they not done that, we would not have any of these problems today. The term Middle East crisis would not have been coined. But I don't think such a proposal would find much support these days. Now we can all be outraged and point fingers in various directions. Doesn't change a thing. The world is what it is, and the world now includes Israel, a state that was created out of thin air and religious claims of the chosen people. It will get worse before it will get better.

I'm of mind that there should be an Israel, and it is the Jewish homeland imo. But I don't like religious wingnuts no matter what their faith. Religions shouldn't even be an issue in the year 2011. I mean it's like believing in vampires,were wolves, leprechauns and banshee's when we have people flying to the moon and using internet. I understand some people need a crutch...something extraordinary to believe in, but when they start messing with regular normal folk then it's time to kick some religious wingnut #######.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Nice try with the stereotyping. Your trying to find something that's not there. I never said "all Jews" and I never implied "all Jews". Jews as do other people come in all forms and sizes. What I did say is that the Jews in Europe didn't always play nice. Having a hand in killing millions of people in order to gain an autonomous homeland in Russia Far East isn't what I would call "playing nice" by any means.

This is what you said, verbatim:

Jews don't have a good score card when it comes to learning from history. Any doubts to this look at their history in Europe. They kept shooting themselves in the foot over and over and over. "Live and learn" isn't in the Hebrew language.

This is some deep bigotry.

I just noticed something with you. It's ok to complain about what's happening in Israel/Palestine, but it's not ok to point out facts to where millions of people were murdered in Europe. I call that being a hypocrite.

Once again, you can't distinguish the difference between criticism of a political regime or a military occupation or specific criminal acts, and sweeping generalizations about entire ethnic groups.

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This is what you said, verbatim:

What should I have said? That well over a million Jews participated in helping to butcher millions of Eastern and Central Europeans, but "not all Jews"? Would that have been more politically correct? I never said "all Jews", But I did say well over a millions Jews which is a correct answer. Again don't try to dig for something that's not there.

This is some deep bigotry.

Save your "deep bigotry" ####### until you learn up on history. Until then your insulting me and anyone who has a clue on European history and/or just p*ssing in the wind. On at least three different occasions in what is now Ukraine, Belarus, Poland, and Lithuania the Jewish people living there tried to put the screws to the locals in order to gain a homeland for themselves in what was then known as the Polish - Lithuanian Commonwealth and the Russian Empire. It backfired on them each and every time. I would call that "shooting themselves in the foot". What would you call it?

You can't have it both ways. You cant condone one side for killing people and not the other. It doesn't work that way. Nobody should have to stick their head in the sand and lie about history and/or the truth just to appease a few ignorant people.

Once again, you can't distinguish the difference between criticism of a political regime or a military occupation or specific criminal acts, and sweeping generalizations about entire ethnic groups.

A political regime? lol...ya ok. So all those Jews in Israel are innocent of harrasing the Palestinians...all of them other than the government? And who votes in the government of Israel? Little green men? And I'm sure the ones who are against the Israeli government kicking Palestinians out of their homes are trying to over throw the Israeli government as we speak? Yes or no? Either they are or they aren't.

It's just like when people say "all Germans weren't Nazi's". Of course they all weren't, but how many of them took up arms against Hitler when they knew d@mn well that Jews, Gypsies, communist, etc.. were getting gassed to death? Try about ZERO! It's one thing to say your against something and it's another to know that your government is gassing little children in your own back yard while you and your neighbors sit on your do nothing arses and do just that...nothing. And that's just what the German people did about it...nothing.

I'm going to clue you in on a few things, and it can easily be googled for the fact it's common knowledge. When the Soviets (Red Army) came waltzing into Eastern Europe after the Molotov - Ribbentrop Pact they started mass deporting the locals to Russian gulags. I'm talking millions of people...Lithuanians, Romanians, Moldovians, Latvians, Western Ukrainians, Poles, and Estonians. When they needed help rounding them up they called upon the local Jewish population and armed them for the fact it was a big thing since the Bolshevik Revolution to have a Jewish family member in either the Bolshevik government, Secret Service or Red Army. Unlike most all Eastern Europeans who hated the Commies, the Jews were the machine behind the communist take over. So what did the local Jewish population do ? They sought out the locals and helped to load them onto the cattle cars and the ones who resisted ended up with a bullet lunch. The NKVD guards who were over seeing the deportations were predominantly Jewish. This happened in all of Eastern Europe...not just a few countries, but all of them. You talk about how bad the poor Palestinians have it? They have it great compared to what the Eastern Europeans got. When you have twenty million Palestinians laying in an unmarked grave due to either forced starvation, freezing to death on their way to a labor camp, or a bullet in the back of the head then you can post about it on here like it's a big thing, until then your people have had it easy compared to what people like Ukrainians got done to them. Now if you want to argue what Iv'e posted on here then please do so. Again you can't twist history to someones likes and dislikes just to make it politically correct and call yourself a decent person. History doesn't and shouldn't work that way. It would be an insult to the millions of people lying dead in the dirt due to the Bolsheviks/Communist.

Btw ...and Iv'e posted the links on here before while debating Scandal about this, Jewish-Communist war criminals took asylum in Israel as soon as the Wall came down in Berlin. Israel never has extradited those criminals to the countries who wish to prosecute them. Ironic isn't it? The same people that go NAZI hunting (and they should btw) will not give up their own war criminals for extradition even though there's living witnesses to their crimes...which consist of helping to butcher the local populations.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Why Me, I'm not even going to quote you in my reply because your post will probably get deleted... but even if it doesn't, it's just a bunch of ####### right out of the Protocols that you would only find on some site like Stormfront.

Anyway the Bolsheviks have nothing to do with this topic, so if you want to continue yammering on about your crackpot Judeo-Bolshevism theories, start your own thread about it.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Why Me, I'm not even going to quote you in my reply because your post will probably get deleted... but even if it doesn't, it's just a bunch of ####### right out of the Protocols that you would only find on some site like Stormfront.

Anyway the Bolsheviks have nothing to do with this topic, so if you want to continue yammering on about your crackpot Judeo-Bolshevism theories, start your own thread about it.

As of now I will never take a post of yours on here seriously. First off Stormfront is for Nazi's and I am against anyone who takes part in mass genocide ...like Nazi's, Communist, etc... Secondly you could have easily googled what I posted but instead you chose not to. Now what does that make you? Someone who won't refute anothers post on here with evidence, but go's to the true and tried method of calling someone out as a bigot. Easy to do, and it's a total cop out. If your a complete blank on that part of history, then admit it but don't resort to post like the one in that quote. Again it's an insult to anyone who had read up on it, or personally knows a few of the victims. I went to school with a few Lithuanians who's family members were victims of the Communist genocide which consisted of over twenty million people dead.

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_Weber.html <---- Is this a bigoted site? The references are at the bottom of the page. Go figure eh. That's one of thousands of articles on it. Many and I say many universities here in the US and especially Europe provide information on it along with photo's.

Now how many links do you want seeing how you want to call me a "bigot" yet you fail in doing any searching on your part? Would you like me to post an article written by Winston Churchill on it? He wrote a detailed one on it with facts...does that make him a bigot also? Telling it like it is shouldn't make someone a bigot, and calling someone a bigot when it's obvious the one doing the name calling doesn't have a clue makes that person what?

Edited December 29, 2011 by Why_Me