the frustrations

[ScottnIzabela 25]

so frustrated with a senselessly complicated process. i sent in our ds230 but i forgot i needed to send in our documents. it seems i read that somewhere

before, so the very next day i sent the 3 documents i had with coversheet and she is still awaiting police certificate from Poland to be translated. we have everything else just need to forward to me and i 'll send in.

it is sad to see just how saturated this process is with meddlesome congressional "help".it is sad to see the citizens and law abiding make an honest mistake and get branded for life,but illegals from central america and mexico(and honestly others but the largest offenders really mess it up for all of us) get extra special treatment.

[Darnell 8,478]

uhm - K-3 documents intake is done to the US Embassy IV unit in London.

Is that where yer sending 'yer stuff', or no?

[pushbrk 12,898]

so frustrated with a senselessly complicated process. i sent in our ds230 but i forgot i needed to send in our documents. it seems i read that somewhere

before, so the very next day i sent the 3 documents i had with coversheet and she is still awaiting police certificate from Poland to be translated. we have everything else just need to forward to me and i 'll send in.

it is sad to see just how saturated this process is with meddlesome congressional "help".it is sad to see the citizens and law abiding make an honest mistake and get branded for life,but illegals from central america and mexico(and honestly others but the largest offenders really mess it up for all of us) get extra special treatment.

In a do it yourself process, it is incumbent upon YOU to understand the process and its steps. Since you don't even understand which visa your spouse is applying for, you're going to see some delays. Have a look at the CR1 visa guide. You're not in a K3 process.

[ScottnIzabela 25]

yeah the difference is married vs engaged for k3 to cr1 . NVC has made our change. we have 4 documents to send in, and she has 3 of them already.we should have it all sent in in a week or two.for us (married) and her over there i am her agent and send everything here to the NVC address on the cover sheets.from nvc e mail questions and on the phone i am supposed to submit all documents and she is supposed to just have her things she can only get there. so no i dont have to submit directly anything to the Embassy.

on the good side all of our submissions have all be good and no additional requests or any issues for us.except my mistake this time but we will likely have it settled before they can send us notification that i need to submit our other documents.

i honestly think there should be a better way to do this. a road map of the forms and fees would be helpful and also a better try at a timetable. maybe based on the fact that all submissions were correct and no additional documents needed.there is too much stress and worry in the process as it is now.

[Penguin_ie 5,994]

yeah the difference is married vs engaged for k3 to cr1 .

No, the K1 is the fiance visa. The K3 and CR-1 (and the IR-1) are all spousal visas. The K3 is mostly obsolete, and usually gets administratively closed at NVC stage. Are you going for a CR-1? Your comments seem to indicate such, even though your profile states K3 and you posted in the K3 forum. Be sure to read the VJ Guides to explain what you need at which stage.

[ScottnIzabela 25]

" Note: K-3 Filers have (automatically) filed for a IR1/CR1 Visa (I-130) and may obtain either"

NVC already made this change for us. i know what i have and what i need and now on to my point to anyone who is in the process and nearing the same stage as we are, please make sure you understand and dont forget/or do your paperwork late at night when you are tired. i realized my mistake that same evening and had as much of it fixed as i can in less than 8 hours later. in our situation she has obligations she has to meet and has to be there till May. so i dont think any delays from this,if any at all will effect us.

of course when she has the packets in hand and it is all done i am betting it will drive her crazy.

[Darnell 8,478]

ok - so it's not any K-3 . you originally posted in the K-3 forum.

The DS-230 document intake at NVC - that's the foreign spouse's VISA application - so it must be filled out 'in her voice', not the USCitizen's spouse voice. Needs signature as well, plus the civil documents on the foreign spouse. It's best to send it in as one complete packet, that DS-230 packet.

Good Luck, whatever yer doing. I like the NVC process, much: it's more interactive than the USCIS process. To me, it's refreshing, as it 'seems' like there's movement..

[ScottnIzabela 25]

ok - so it's not any K-3 you originally posted in the K-3 forum. The DS-230 document intake at NVC - that's the foreign spouse's VISA application - so it must be filled out 'in her voice', not the USCitizen's spouse voice. Needs signature as well, plus the civil documents on the foreign spouse.It's best to send it in as one complete packet, that DS-230 packet. Good Luck, whatever yer doing;I like the NVC process, much it's more interactive than the USCIS process.To me, it's refreshing, as it 'seems' like there's movement..yes i understand. but i made my own mistake but it will be all resolved.

and yes it is all correct and proper and signed. and one of the seven documents that apply to us is with the submission,and i sent the other two the next morning with a coversheet.so NVC's request for the additional documents and the documents will likely pass each other in the mail. to our credit we have filled out everything on a computer and the only hand written parts are the signatures.we have made numerous copies and checked and corrected until we have the forms completely filled out and properly signed. i figured as the process goes having clean and correct paperwork that will be easy to read and no extraneous comments or extras will be good for our application. i even went back and changed all the forms to be filled out in all capital letters as it is supposed to be. also read up on i864 and realized i needed a joint sponsor and did all of that , so one less delay as they dont have to stop the process and ask for that. we have tried to anticipate all teh problems and solutions and have it all sorted out before we send in. she is near terrified of the embassy interview....i hope she does good and all is fine

Edited December 26, 2011 by ScottnIzabela

[pushbrk 12,898]

" Note: K-3 Filers have (automatically) filed for a IR1/CR1 Visa (I-130) and may obtain either"

NVC already made this change for us. i know what i have and what i need and now on to my point to anyone who is in the process and nearing the same stage as we are, please make sure you understand and dont forget/or do your paperwork late at night when you are tired. i realized my mistake that same evening and had as much of it fixed as i can in less than 8 hours later. in our situation she has obligations she has to meet and has to be there till May. so i dont think any delays from this,if any at all will effect us.

of course when she has the packets in hand and it is all done i am betting it will drive her crazy.

NVC didn't "change" anything for you. They just administratively closed the I-129F and proceeded with the I-130. Sounds like you're on the right track now.

[mr and mrs 187]

it is sad to see the citizens and law abiding make an honest mistake and get branded for life,but illegals from central america and mexico(and honestly others but the largest offenders really mess it up for all of us) get extra special treatment.

do you eat apples?

[yachachiq12 43]

it is sad to see just how saturated this process is with meddlesome congressional "help".it is sad to see the citizens and law abiding make an honest mistake and get branded for life,but illegals from central america and mexico(and honestly others but the largest offenders really mess it up for all of us) get extra special treatment.

What does that even mean? What "special treatment" do you refer to? And what would it have to do with your CR-1 process?

If you want to talk about "meddlesome congressional 'help,' there's a forum called "Politics and Religion" that it would apply to. I can't wait to see what you mean and how it has adversely affected your spouse's immigration process.

[maimuni726 0]

if you filed in the country your spouse is in, then K-3 gives your spouse the right to wait in the US for the process to finish...doesn't it? That's what they told me...but I filed in the US anyway.

[Penguin_ie 5,994]

if you filed in the country your spouse is in, then K-3 gives your spouse the right to wait in the US for the process to finish...doesn't it? That's what they told me...but I filed in the US anyway.

No it doesn't. It is true that with the K3, you do some of the process in the USA, but the time from filing to interview is as long as the CR-1, so all you get is extra paperwork and fees after entry. You are probably thinking of DCF- filing directly with the embassy. This is much faster than filing via the USA (see my timeline), but the USC needs to have lived in the foreign country for 6+months before filing.

[maimuni726 0]

yeah, i was in Georgia 6+ months, and if I started my process there, the K-3 would have allowed him to come with me and wait here in the US.

[Darnell 8,478]

if you filed in the country your spouse is in, then K-3 gives your spouse the right to wait in the US for the process to finish...doesn't it? That's what they told me...but I filed in the US anyway.

No, not at all.

Perhaps 'process is finished' is easily confused with 'file for adjustment of status' after arrival in the USA.

More forms, more paperwork, more money, more time.

Although this is a bit dated - most of it holds true - Comparison on K-3 vs CR-1 - http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/204324-wondering-if-i-made-a-mistake-marrying-in-us/page__view__findpost__p__3060767 with the difference being the amount of money to pay.

'To file in that country' denotes using Consular Filing, DCF'd I-130. A K-3 visa is never awarded, always a CR-1 or IR-1 visa. Unsure of who 'they' are, but I gotta tell ya - something is skewed.