Visa Denied under section 221(g)

[LIFE'SJOURNEY 970]

If you have some type of legal document that says you have sole custody you do not need the dads approval even if he is on the birth certificate. At least that is how it is in some places. I suggest you look into it

Where is that? Sole custody does not eliminate the non-custodional parent right in any state within the USA.

[MrsMahir2010 0]

Which places are those? Can you elaborate?

How about if the father snatches the child away from the mother without a court hearing, would you be in favor of that?

The point is that there are bad mothers and fathers, and the law is there to protect what is best for the child. It's not about getting approval from either parent, but allowing both parents to have a day in court and an impartial third party listening to both sides of the story. Thank God that laws have been enacted to protect the rights of the child , and not simply treat the child like a prized possesion of either parent.

I understand where you are coming from, but first of all...this man does not contact me to see my child, he beat me in front of my child, he threw my son across the room one day while I was at work and locked him in a room (this is what finally opened my eyes and made me leave!), he doesnt pay child support, he is a drug addict...I could keep going! I WANTED my son to have a relationship with his father...because I didnt have one as a child. I never met my father! But, Im NOT going to chase him down or contact him just so he could possibly hurt my son AGAIN! I put up with the abuse just so he would stay around for my son...but there is a cut off point!! When you put your hands on my child...ITS OVER!!! Yes, there are 2 sides to every story, and youre right hes NOT here to tell his side...HES NOT HERE FOR HIS CHILD EITHER!!! Yes, there are both bad mothers AND bad fathers...but I work my butt of to provide a good life for my son. All I wanted was to be happy for once too!!! I am far from perfect...but neither myself nor my son deserved what that man put us through! I WANT my day in court! I dont want to just snatch him away...I WISH his father would get himself together and be there for his son. But, he would rather run the streets, do drugs, and have sex with as many woman as he can...How do I know that? His BROTHER told me!!!

[LIFE'SJOURNEY 970]

Then go to court and have his parenting right re-voke. This is going to be your only way around this not here on this board, but in the court of law. You have enough evidence if what you have printed above is the case. Then move on from there,you need a family lawyer.

Edited December 23, 2011 by LIFE'SJOURNEY

[brian_n_phuong 193]

I understand where you are coming from, but first of all...this man does not contact me to see my child, he beat me in front of my child, he threw my son across the room one day while I was at work and locked him in a room (this is what finally opened my eyes and made me leave!), he doesnt pay child support, he is a drug addict...I could keep going! I WANTED my son to have a relationship with his father...because I didnt have one as a child. I never met my father! But, Im NOT going to chase him down or contact him just so he could possibly hurt my son AGAIN! I put up with the abuse just so he would stay around for my son...but there is a cut off point!! When you put your hands on my child...ITS OVER!!! Yes, there are 2 sides to every story, and youre right hes NOT here to tell his side...HES NOT HERE FOR HIS CHILD EITHER!!! Yes, there are both bad mothers AND bad fathers...but I work my butt of to provide a good life for my son. All I wanted was to be happy for once too!!! I am far from perfect...but neither myself nor my son deserved what that man put us through! I WANT my day in court! I dont want to just snatch him away...I WISH his father would get himself together and be there for his son. But, he would rather run the streets, do drugs, and have sex with as many woman as he can...How do I know that? His BROTHER told me!!!

My post was not to indict you as a mother, nor was it to condone the fathers actions if they are as described. Honestly it was not your post that bothered me as much as some others that painted a wide brush about the validity of "father's rights".

About a decade ago I participated in several groups that lobbied against the inequalities suffered by fathers in the family court system. The goal was not that "fathers" should win, but that thier contribution to the child's life be considered on an equal par with the mother. The policy prior to that point was based on a 'tender years' concept that the child is ALWAYS best served as the mother being sole custodial parent. Family court systems are starting to slowly bend away from that concept and to the benefit of the child. The system is not only meant to protect the child from what you describe, but also to protect the child from a scorched earth attack by the custodial parent in order to demonize the non-custodial parent.

[Nigerian Queen 16]

Yes, Ma'am this is so true. I heard horror stories about the Moroccan Consulate. The new legitimization law was passed in 2005, and since my son was born in 2004, the deadbeat would have to file papers to have him legitimized. That only works for the state laws though. I definitely understand the federal laws, but it is so unfair. I mean if I wanted to take my son on a vacation I wouldnt even be able to do that. Why do the laws protect people like him? He has no interest in my child...he just wants us to be miserable. I understand the fraud level, and I know that it doesnt matter if he fits this profile...its just very heartbreaking. It hurts so bad...

have.u.contacted.the.county.courts./im.im.th.same.situation.i.told.th.clerk.i.didnt.where.my.kid.dad.is.and.the.clerk,said.i.would.need.to.sign.a.consent.and.then.my.son.could.receive.a.passport

[Tahlisha 28]

The fathers does have rights.... In cases of children born out of wedlock really neither parent has rights.... This is why one needs to go to court to obtain a custody order in these cases. You can petition the courts for permission to travel with your child...

[Tahlisha 28]

I don't know of any state where a grant of sole physical and legal custody results in the loss of the non-custodial parent's rights. After my last divorce I got sole physical and legal custody of my daughter, but her mother still had parental rights. The courts made it clear that she would not lose those rights unless they were revoked by the court or she willfully gave them up, both of which are very rare. I did need my ex-wife's permission to get my daughter a passport.

In California I was granted Sole custody of my son.... IDK if his father pissed the judge off or what, but I was awarded sole custody of my son with visitaion under my discrestion.....

[brian_n_phuong 193]

In cases of children born out of wedlock really neither parent has rights

I'm sorry but that is absolutely NOT true !

Marraige has little bearing on parental rights of either parent. It can complicate matters if the child is born to a married female where the father is not the biological father, but that is quickly corrected via paternity. Regardless, the OP stated that the biological father is listed on the birth certificate so even that is a moot point.

Edited December 24, 2011 by brian_n_phuong

[MrsMahir2010 0]

Why not trade Child Support for the Passport?

LOL!! Sounds like a plan...but to be honest...Im afraid of him. He doesnt pay child support anyway

[Boiler 45,673]

LOL!! Sounds like a plan...but to be honest...Im afraid of him. He doesnt pay child support anyway

Not yet he does not.

[MrsMahir2010 0]

Not yet he does not.

ROFLMBO!!! He hasnt paid since my son was born. He evades the system some how. The child support case has been open since 2004 and the only thing he has paid...came from his tax return ($100 in almost 8 years). Now, he doesnt file tax returns. He is working now...and NOTHING. I was told he is taking care of his new girlfriends kids...

[MrsMahir2010 0]

The fathers does have rights.... In cases of children born out of wedlock really neither parent has rights.... This is why one needs to go to court to obtain a custody order in these cases. You can petition the courts for permission to travel with your child...

How do I file this petition? I went to the courts, and they told me I would have to have an open court case in order to talk to a judge. Is there a specific form that I need to ask for? Thank you so much for your advice =)

[MrsMahir2010 0]

have.u.contacted.the.county.courts./im.im.th.same.situation.i.told.th.clerk.i.didnt.where.my.kid.dad.is.and.the.clerk,said.i.would.need.to.sign.a.consent.and.then.my.son.could.receive.a.passport

I have no idea where my sons father is either. I told the passport agency that when they told me I needed his permission, but they didnt care. What kind of petition do I have to file? Thank you so much for your help!

[MrsMahir2010 0]

My post was not to indict you as a mother, nor was it to condone the fathers actions if they are as described. Honestly it was not your post that bothered me as much as some others that painted a wide brush about the validity of "father's rights".

About a decade ago I participated in several groups that lobbied against the inequalities suffered by fathers in the family court system. The goal was not that "fathers" should win, but that thier contribution to the child's life be considered on an equal par with the mother. The policy prior to that point was based on a 'tender years' concept that the child is ALWAYS best served as the mother being sole custodial parent. Family court systems are starting to slowly bend away from that concept and to the benefit of the child. The system is not only meant to protect the child from what you describe, but also to protect the child from a scorched earth attack by the custodial parent in order to demonize the non-custodial parent.

I definitely understand where youre coming from! I dont agree that the mother should always have the children...sometimes that isnt in the best interest of the child. Im glad that these laws are in place...especially for the parents who DO want to be a part of their child life.

[MrsMahir2010 0]

Then go to court and have his parenting right re-voke. This is going to be your only way around this not here on this board, but in the court of law. You have enough evidence if what you have printed above is the case. Then move on from there,you need a family lawyer.

You are right. I was only in need of some advice. I know I need an attorney...but, to be honest...Im terrified of this man!