Who do I complain to get a policy change?

[Noah Lot 391]

Starting a petition and challenging the government in a court of law? Something has to be done about this. How ridiculous is that? You might not care about others bashing the U S, but i do. And if I was told that I have to go to China for an interview, I would if I really loved the one I was trying to marry. I would not try to challenge the rules and laws of the country I was trying to go to.

To the OP, you know there are always choices in live, you don't have to live in the U S to be together, it is your choice to. If you don't want to be here, by all means don't come. But if you do want to come here, just play by the rules, and if everything is legit, your time will come.

I agree....this constant whining by the 'know-it-alls' about how the world should be run, according to their narrow and uninformmed views, is tiresome. Taxpayer dollars fund our embassy operations....if the whiner would like more embassies, well, who pays? Yep...the taxpayers. Maybe the OP should toss his hat into the ring to become Secretary of State....no doubt his resume would qualify him.....

and just where is it written in some International Law that regulates human behavior that one cannot make a judgment about another person?????? The OP is supposedly allowed to vent, but if anyone takes him to task, then that person is violating.....what law again????????????????????????/

I agree....this constant whining by the 'know-it-alls' about how the world should be run, according to their narrow and uninformmed views, is tiresome. Taxpayer dollars fund our embassy operations....if the whiner would like more embassies, well, who pays? Yep...the taxpayers. Maybe the OP should toss his hat into the ring to become Secretary of State....no doubt his resume would qualify him.....

and just where is it written in some International Law that regulates human behavior that one cannot make a judgment about another person?????? The OP is supposedly allowed to vent, but if anyone takes him to task, then that person is violating.....what law again????????????????????????/

And for anyone about to cut and paste some biblical quote, well, the bible is NOT LAW. Human beings are not bound by anything written between its covers.

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

Starting a petition and challenging the government in a court of law? Something has to be done about this. How ridiculous is that? You might not care about others bashing the U S, but i do. And if I was told that I have to go to China for an interview, I would if I really loved the one I was trying to marry. I would not try to challenge the rules and laws of the country I was trying to go to.

To the OP, you know there are always choices in live, you don't have to live in the U S to be together, it is your choice to. If you don't want to be here, by all means don't come. But if you do want to come here, just play by the rules, and if everything is legit, your time will come.

This has nothing to do with the laws of the United States, nor even the policies of the Department of State. As a matter of discretion, the Department of State decided not to open an immigrant visa unit at the US Embassy in Mauritius. They could have easily decided to the contrary. There is no law or policy that prevents them from doing this, and they do have an immigrant visa unit in most countries of the world. I would have a different opinion if the OP was asking for immigration law to be changed, or for a long standing policy of the Department of State to be changed, but that's not what they're asking for. In fact, from the OP's statement, the US Embassy in Mauritius does handle some K visa applications, so the OP isn't even asking for the embassy to do something they're not already doing.

The OP is entitled to their opinion. Only dictatorships and communist countries tell people to follow the rules without questioning them. The OP has a personal stake in how the US government provides visa services in Mauritius. You and I do not. In my opinion, the OP is entitled to ask that the US government provides the same services in Mauritius that they do in most other countries. What's more, the OP's US citizen fiance has a right to expect it. As a US citizen, I would be willing to sign a petition to help accomplish that.

[Noah Lot 391]

This has nothing to do with the laws of the United States, nor even the policies of the Department of State. As a matter of discretion, the Department of State decided not to open an immigrant visa unit at the US Embassy in Mauritius. They could have easily decided to the contrary. There is no law or policy that prevents them from doing this, and they do have an immigrant visa unit in most countries of the world. I would have a different opinion if the OP was asking for immigration law to be changed, or for a long standing policy of the Department of State to be changed, but that's not what they're asking for. In fact, from the OP's statement, the US Embassy in Mauritius does handle some K visa applications, so the OP isn't even asking for the embassy to do something they're not already doing.

The OP is entitled to their opinion. Only dictatorships and communist countries tell people to follow the rules without questioning them. The OP has a personal stake in how the US government provides visa services in Mauritius. You and I do not. In my opinion, the OP is entitled to ask that the US government provides the same services in Mauritius that they do in most other countries. What's more, the OP's US citizen fiance has a right to expect it. As a US citizen, I would be willing to sign a petition to help accomplish that.

And I am entitled to my opinion about the OP's incessant whining.....how loud would the whining be if the visa fee were raised to $2000 in order to pay for more staff so as to provide worldwide visa services everywhere? (about 200 decibels)

The OP hasn't even arrived in the US and is already unhappy....my solution? Stay put.

has the OP paid one cent in US taxes or fought in any war on behalf of its citizenry? No. So who is he to be in charge of making policy for a country of which he is not even a legal resident?

And speaking of rights.....which 'right' has been bestowed upon the USC's fiance that entitles her (or anyone else) to a specific service anywhere on the planet? I have reviewed our Constitution....odd that part wasn't in there.

[Sabian 4]

And I am entitled to my opinion about the OP's incessant whining.....how loud would the whining be if the visa fee were raised to $2000 in order to pay for more staff so as to provide worldwide visa services everywhere? (about 200 decibels)

The OP hasn't even arrived in the US and is already unhappy....my solution? Stay put.

has the OP paid one cent in US taxes or fought in any war on behalf of its citizenry? No. So who is he to be in charge of making policy for a country of which he is not even a legal resident?

And speaking of rights.....which 'right' has been bestowed upon the USC's fiance that entitles her (or anyone else) to a specific service anywhere on the planet? I have reviewed our Constitution....odd that part wasn't in there.

Noah I think what your sadly misunderstanding is that ...we are all human beings on this planet and we all deserve respect and safety. The OP may not have US citizen rights, but he does have human rights. It seems to me that your ideas of immigrants is what is wrong with the immigration system. The OP is putting his personal safety in danger because of a flawed system. And yes, the US citizen DOES have a right to complain because her tax dollars pay for embassy services. Such a great country as the United States should take responsibility for humanitarian violations, which the OP has every right to complain about.

Edited December 30, 2011 by Sabian

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

And I am entitled to my opinion about the OP's incessant whining.....how loud would the whining be if the visa fee were raised to $2000 in order to pay for more staff so as to provide worldwide visa services everywhere? (about 200 decibels)

The OP hasn't even arrived in the US and is already unhappy....my solution? Stay put.

has the OP paid one cent in US taxes or fought in any war on behalf of its citizenry? No. So who is he to be in charge of making policy for a country of which he is not even a legal resident?

And speaking of rights.....which 'right' has been bestowed upon the USC's fiance that entitles her (or anyone else) to a specific service anywhere on the planet? I have reviewed our Constitution....odd that part wasn't in there.

If the visa fee were raised to $2000 everywhere in the world then there would be no basis to complain. If the visa fee were raised to $2000 only in Mauritius then I'm sure the OP and his US citizen fiancee would both be complaining, and I would too, just as you would if the fee were raised only in Manila.

And please read again what I wrote - this has nothing to do with policy or law. The OP isn't asking to change either one. In most countries in the world the US has at least one consular post that handles immigrant visas. For whatever reason, they've decided not to handle them at the embassy in Mauritius, and instead require applicants to travel to mainland Africa to apply for a visa. It's not unreasonable for the OP or his US citizen fiancee to ask that this be changed. It doesn't require a change in law or policy, and it won't cost the taxpayers a dime because visa services are funded by visa applicants. You act as if the OP is demanding the right to burn the US flag on your front lawn when all they're asking for is to be treated like everyone else.

[jimmynug 13]

Noah I think what your sadly misunderstanding is that ...we are all human beings on this planet and we all deserve respect and safety. The OP may not have US citizen rights, but he does have human rights. It seems to me that your ideas of immigrants is what is wrong with the immigration system. The OP is putting his personal safety in danger because of a flawed system. And yes, the US citizen DOES have a right to complain because her tax dollars pay for embassy services. Such a great country as the United States should take responsibility for humanitarian violations, which the OP has every right to complain about.

What I know is that the OP wanted to know if he could take the u s government to court because of what they are MAKING him do. The u s gov't is NOT making him do anything. It is his choice whether he wants to do it or not. However, I will completely agree with you that we are all human beings on this planet and we all deserve respect, but the respect has to be earned, not just freely given. And in the real world, it is impossible for the U. S. to protect every person in this world. I know that may be hard to believe, but it is a fact. Now what the U. S. is trying to do is protect the citizens of the U.S. that are in the U. S. Leave the U. S., and you are on your own, pure and simple. As far as the immigration system, most people will think it is messed up when it doesn't meet their personal needs. Once again, the original OP has choices, he is not being forced to do anything. If his safety is being compromised, maybe he should ask the country that he is a citizen of to help him out. And yes, the u s citizen does have a right to complain, but the u s is ultimately governed by the people. If the majority of the u s citizens wanted it changed, they have the power to change it. So quit complaining and have it changed. Okay now let's see, humanitarian violations, I do hope you are kidding on this one. I wonder how many trillions of dollars the u s gov't has spent on this over the years, and how many wars we have fought on this. As hard as it may be to swallow or accept, the U S does not have the power to stop all humanitarian violations in the entire world. Maybe the OP again should ask his own country to address this issue.

[mehellie 9]

What I know is that the OP wanted to know if he could take the u s government to court because of what they are MAKING him do. The u s gov't is NOT making him do anything. It is his choice whether he wants to do it or not. However, I will completely agree with you that we are all human beings on this planet and we all deserve respect, but the respect has to be earned, not just freely given. And in the real world, it is impossible for the U. S. to protect every person in this world. I know that may be hard to believe, but it is a fact. Now what the U. S. is trying to do is protect the citizens of the U.S. that are in the U. S. Leave the U. S., and you are on your own, pure and simple. As far as the immigration system, most people will think it is messed up when it doesn't meet their personal needs. Once again, the original OP has choices, he is not being forced to do anything. If his safety is being compromised, maybe he should ask the country that he is a citizen of to help him out. And yes, the u s citizen does have a right to complain, but the u s is ultimately governed by the people. If the majority of the u s citizens wanted it changed, they have the power to change it. So quit complaining and have it changed. Okay now let's see, humanitarian violations, I do hope you are kidding on this one. I wonder how many trillions of dollars the u s gov't has spent on this over the years, and how many wars we have fought on this. As hard as it may be to swallow or accept, the U S does not have the power to stop all humanitarian violations in the entire world. Maybe the OP again should ask his own country to address this issue.

Go back and read the opening post.

That's exactly what he was trying to do. Asking HOW to change the system. He never said he wanted to take the government to court. He was merely asking how to create a PETITION to the government, which COULD require being "proved" in a court.

Again, stop assuming that all of your lovely "recommendations" have not already been taken. Why do you believe that he hasn't already asked his country to address the issue? Clearly, you are incapable of considering the possibility that this post was written as a last resort after all other attempts had failed.

If the US is trying to protect its citizens, they should also protect the right of a US citizen to be able to bring the person they love SAFELY to their country. When the US government has an embassy, but has chosen not to process a certain type of visa there, and is instead requiring applicants to go to a country which it declares dangerous on its own travel.state.gov website, then yes, I consider that a problem.

Perhaps instead of making ignorant assumptions, you could offer actual advice, but seeing as your first response to this thread was to immediately attack the OP and complain about complaining (how ironic), I doubt it's possible.

[yketwaroo 10]

Starting a petition and challenging the government in a court of law? Something has to be done about this. How ridiculous is that? You might not care about others bashing the U S, but i do. And if I was told that I have to go to China for an interview, I would if I really loved the one I was trying to marry. I would not try to challenge the rules and laws of the country I was trying to go to.

To the OP, you know there are always choices in live, you don't have to live in the U S to be together, it is your choice to. If you don't want to be here, by all means don't come. But if you do want to come here, just play by the rules, and if everything is legit, your time will come.

telling me that there's no choice in life and then that it would be my choice to come to the US or not is a contradiction in terms?

I don't frigging care about the US. I only care about my fiancee. I love her, not the country. the country is meaningless. Their stupid squabbles with there rest of the world and their politics are obsolete to me. She can't move from the US, she has many things she has to do there, so I go to her. It's actually a much harder process for me so shut up about choices I have to make. You obviously lack the perspective. Having to go to a foreign country when the interview could be held in my home country is what's ridiculous.

Also, http://www.prweb.com/releases/K1-Fiance-Visa/US-Embassy-Consulate/prweb4157054.htm

It wouldn't be a democracy if you couldn't challenge the state of affairs, would it now?

The consulate in Kenya is also notorious for refusing visas a lot. which could hurt future attempts to be with her in case this one fails.

I don't have to be US Citizen to feel outraged. I only have to be a person. Being a US citizen does not put you above the rest of the world.

How would you feel about going to an embassy high on terrorist threat list, in a country generally considered unsafe? It might not happen to everybody but it runs a higher risk. I don't have a choice in that.

Do you know what it means to know that someone loves you and to love her back so much that you just know how devastated the other would be if something happened to you? What would happen to her if I got hurt? Currently we don't know if she should come to Kenya too because it's so risky. I just miss her so much.

I'm sure everything went peachy for you, otherwise you wouldn't sound so.. spiteful about me wanting things to be better?

Yes, I do think it's something that should be brought in front of justice because when dealing with a dense bureaucracy completely opaque to reason, that's usually what it takes. The laws are putting thousands of lives at risk (yes. danger) then it should be changed. It's not just about people in Mauritius. I'm pretty sure there are people, sorry, I meant US Citizens who's immigrant fiance(e) of the other 12 countries which the consulate in Kenya services who feel the same.

you're kinda in the wrong forum to be anti immigration buddy. Don't you think?

Edited December 30, 2011 by yketwaroo

[jimmynug 13]

"Can we prove in a court of law that the US government is taking people emotionally hostage and knowingly pulling their lives at risk? It has to stop dammit"

Maybe someone else should read the original post. If the about quote, right from the original post is not about taking the US government to court, them I certainly am mistaken.

If you don't care at all about the U S, then by all means don't come here. You both could be married where you are and both live there. There is nobody with a gun forcing you to live in the U S. And why would you want to if you don't care anything about the country?

"The consulate in Kenya is also notorious for refusing visas a lot. which could hurt future attempts to be with her in case this one fails." I wonder why that is?

"How would you feel about going to an embassy high on terrorist threat list, in a country generally considered unsafe? It might not happen to everybody but it runs a higher risk. I don't have a choice in that." Actually, every time I went to visit my wife, and now every time we visit her family, I am in a danger area per the Embassy there.

"I'm sure everything went peachy for you, otherwise you wouldn't sound so.. spiteful about me wanting things to be better?" Well, what happened was that I followed the rules (like them or not), did everything I was suppose to, waited my time just like everyone else, and then finally made it through it all. That is what immigrating is all about. It is not for trying to bend the rules to your own personal benefit, or berating the country that you are trying so hard to get too.

"you're kinda in the wrong forum to be anti immigration buddy. Don't you think?" I can assure you that I am not anti immigration at all. Before it is over, I will have my wife's mom and dad here too. But I do follow the rules, and don't complain about the country I live in allowing me to do that! One day, you can do the same also, as long as everything is legit, and you want to follow the rules.

Mehellie, "Perhaps instead of making ignorant assumptions, you could offer actual advice, but seeing as your first response to this thread was to immediately attack the OP and complain about complaining (how ironic), I doubt it's possible." Please go back over the first part of this post which quotes the OP in his first post. As far as making ignorant assumptions, from the responses from both of you, I would say they are probably not the wrong. So far, I have immigrated two family members, how many have you?

Now for advice, you don't really seem to want to follow any, just complain of how mistreated you are. The advice is to research here for the quickest ways, follow all the procedures, wait your time, and it will happen. How simple is that.

[yketwaroo 10]

If you don't care at all about the U S, then by all means don't come here. You both could be married where you are and both live there. There is nobody with a gun forcing you to live in the U S. And why would you want to if you don't care anything about the country?

hey jimmy, here's a notion. if this thread pisses you off so much, don't come here either. No one is forcing you to give your opinion.

You talk about gun to the head. Do you have any idea what love is? Did you take a foreign bride for kicks?

I'm not doing a K1 to "immigrate". That's just a technicality. I just want to be with her. I'm doing this for her. not the country. got that? Her. NOT the country. geeze.

We have looked into all other options. I can't get a tourist visa precisely because she's my fiancée. She can't leave the US because she has to finish college. The K1 was the fastest way. If she came here we'd be apart for another year at least. We can't bear that.

But then again, what we do with our lives is none of your frigging business, now is it? It shouldn't be the business of the US Government either. We fell in love and all they see is a threat to their borders. I am pissed at the US immigrations laws, I'm not going to hide it. who wouldn't be? All the hoops they make you jump through.

"The consulate in Kenya is also notorious for refusing visas a lot. which could hurt future attempts to be with her in case this one fails." I wonder why that is?

Yes. I wonder why that is too. Why are you even asking? Are you ironically trying to suggest that people in that region deserve to be denied more that others?

I'll admit I was angrier when I posted this thread so I guess my wording was as angry. But about the proving stuff in court, here's what you fail to understand:

If a petition is started, it has to raise valid points.

When facing a policy change on that level (USCIS, State Department, etc.), merely appealing to common sense may not work. It must have some legal weight. Referring to the other case I gave a link to might be sufficient. here it is again: http://www.prweb.com/releases/K1-Fiance-Visa/US-Embassy-Consulate/prweb4157054.htm It's a class action suit. From what I understand it means there's no one single plaintiff but a large group with a common interest rather. They do mention "contradictory and unlawful practices of the agencies have caused class members to be subjected to arbitrary, capricious, and unlawful visa denials and therefore been deprived of their due process of law".

Kenya is undeniably a dangerous country, especially for US assets. The consulate there has even been attacked by Al Queada before. The consulate there is a harsh one with seemingly arbitrary denials and stressful interviews. There's a vicious circle here. The emotional bond between the interviewee and the petitioner in the US is such that the latter would feel compelled to travel to Nairobi to offer support (that's what people in love tend to do).

Do those conditions put people (including US Citizens) at higher risk of danger? Yes. People are hostage to their emotions in a way. If the Sate Department isn't aware of that, they should damn well be made aware of it.

THe solution: referring to the class action suit, part of the solution would be making the interviews conducted in the Nairobi consulate fair and civilised. The other part would be to decentralise that consulate. Part of the K1 applicants could be redirected to Mauritius if it's closer or to their own countries if consulates there can handle the extra interviews.

It is true that a petitions that would actually work is hard to set in motion. Probably should be a group effort. But it is a worthy idea to make the path to happiness easier for everybody.

So far, I have immigrated two family members, how many have you?

Okay, what is wrong with you? This isn't a race. I'm going to ignore any further comment you make because seriously, your way of thinking is disturbing.

[jimmynug 13]

hey jimmy, here's a notion. if this thread pisses you off so much, don't come here either. No one is forcing you to give your opinion.

Oh such anger. I really don't think I am the one pissed off here. And you are absolutely right, no one is forcing either of us to here posting anything.

You talk about gun to the head. Do you have any idea what love is? Did you take a foreign bride for kicks?

Actually I did take a foreign bride for love, not lust. And the total processing time was averaging 8 months to a year at the time, but a year is too long for you.

I'm not doing a K1 to "immigrate". That's just a technicality. I just want to be with her. I'm doing this for her. not the country. got that? Her. NOT the country. geeze. Yeah, keep trying to convince yourself.

We have looked into all other options. I can't get a tourist visa precisely because she's my fiancée. She can't leave the US because she has to finish college. The K1 was the fastest way. If she came here we'd be apart for another year at least. We can't bear that.

But do you know how long it takes other people? What do you think makes you two so very special? Meet all of the requirements, follow all the rules, jump through the hoops if that is what it takes to be with the one you claim to love! True love doesn't die in a year, if it does, it was lust, not love.

But then again, what we do with our lives is none of your frigging business, now is it? It shouldn't be the business of the US Government either. We fell in love and all they see is a threat to their borders. I am pissed at the US immigrations laws, I'm not going to hide it. who wouldn't be? All the hoops they make you jump through.

Well, I'm not the one that started posting in a public forum about it, am I? And contrary to what you may think, a non-citizen trying to enter the country is the business of the US Government. Well, join the crowd, not many people on here do like the immigration laws, however, while they are the law, unless you want to be a social deviant, you need to follow them.

Yes. I wonder why that is too. Why are you even asking? Are you ironically trying to suggest that people in that region deserve to be denied more that others? Not at all if everything is legit, but usually there is a reason for it.

I'll admit I was angrier when I posted this thread so I guess my wording was as angry. But about the proving stuff in court, here's what you fail to understand:

If a petition is started, it has to raise valid points.

When facing a policy change on that level (USCIS, State Department, etc.), merely appealing to common sense may not work. It must have some legal weight. Referring to the other case I gave a link to might be sufficient. here it is again: http://www.prweb.com/releases/K1-Fiance-Visa/US-Embassy-Consulate/prweb4157054.htm It's a class action suit. From what I understand it means there's no one single plaintiff but a large group with a common interest rather. They do mention "contradictory and unlawful practices of the agencies have caused class members to be subjected to arbitrary, capricious, and unlawful visa denials and therefore been deprived of their due process of law".

But what you fell to realize is that the majority of the US citizens are fine with the policy. If they aren't fine with it, they want it even more strict than what it is now! Start a big firestorm about it, and just watch it change, but for the worst, not better. You would be able to kiss goodbye to ever being with your loved one in the US. So go ahead and start the petition, see who wins and loses. Just remember that half of the people involved in immigration matters don't get to vote. And the ones that do are a small minority of the people of the US.

Kenya is undeniably a dangerous country, especially for US assets. The consulate there has even been attacked by Al Queada before. The consulate there is a harsh one with seemingly arbitrary denials and stressful interviews. There's a vicious circle here. The emotional bond between the interviewee and the petitioner in the US is such that the latter would feel compelled to travel to Nairobi to offer support (that's what people in love tend to do).

You know, I have always heard about denials and how bad the embassies and the US are, but through the years, I have never seen one case that was denied that had everything required by the US, was legit, and didn't involve a question of a suspicious nature. Once again, any US citizen leaving the country is on there own. As for being at the interview, I was at ours also. It was my decision, and really doesn't affect the outcome at all. Just personal choice.

Do those conditions put people (including US Citizens) at higher risk of danger? Yes. People are hostage to their emotions in a way. If the Sate Department isn't aware of that, they should damn well be made aware of it.

Now hear we are getting to the part that I don't understand. What right is it of yours to decide what the US State Department should or shouldn't be aware of? If your fiancee wants to complain, by all means go ahead.

THe solution: referring to the class action suit, part of the solution would be making the interviews conducted in the Nairobi consulate fair and civilised. The other part would be to decentralise that consulate. Part of the K1 applicants could be redirected to Mauritius if it's closer or to their own countries if consulates there can handle the extra interviews.

You can please all the people some of the time, some of the people all the time, but never can you please all the people all of the time. However it is done is not going to make everyone happy.

It is true that a petitions that would actually work is hard to set in motion. Probably should be a group effort. But it is a worthy idea to make the path to happiness easier for everybody.

Okay, what is wrong with you? This isn't a race. I'm going to ignore any further comment you make because seriously, your way of thinking is disturbing.

Not trying to make it a race, just showing you that if you are legit, follow the rules, and be patient, you can get what you want. And the last comment, coming from you, I will take as a compliment! I'm proud to think as most Americans. Love it or leave it, it's your choice.

Now this last bit of info is free. Did you know that the US gov't keeps a list of names of undesireable people that they don't want in the country. You have to clear that list before you get a green card. Do you know how and where those names come from? Do you know how many people of the US gov't secretly monitor the internet around the clock? Do you know that they have the ability to determine who we are even if we don't use our real names? I wonder how they would feel reading this thread? Good luck on your journey! If you ever do make it here, let me know and i'll buy you a drink.

[jimmynug 13]

Now this last bit of info is free. Did you know that the US gov't keeps a list of names of undesireable people that they don't want in the country. You have to clear that list before you get a green card. Do you know how and where those names come from? Do you know how many people of the US gov't secretly monitor the internet around the clock? Do you know that they have the ability to determine who we are even if we don't use our real names? I wonder how they would feel reading this thread? Good luck on your journey! If you ever do make it here, let me know and i'll buy you a drink.

Oh, I almost forgot, if you want that drink, I'll tell you who I wotk for too!

Edited December 31, 2011 by jimmynug

[Sabian 4]

"I'm sure everything went peachy for you, otherwise you wouldn't sound so.. spiteful about me wanting things to be better?" Well, what happened was that I followed the rules (like them or not), did everything I was suppose to, waited my time just like everyone else, and then finally made it through it all. That is what immigrating is all about. It is not for trying to bend the rules to your own personal benefit, or berating the country that you are trying so hard to get too.

I have to say I followed all of the rules, but was harrassed by the Islamabad Embassy. Just because you follow the rules doesn't mean it all works out ok. I have been waiting almost 2 years to see my husband again. I take some of what you say to be valid. However, I am not joking about humanitarian violations. Though the US does aid other countries, it has also been a key player in violating human rights. For example: Afghanistan, Vietnam, and even the Holocaust. The U.S. did experiments on people by giving them syphilis without telling them. Many times the U.S. claims it does a great job aiding the world but greatly falls short. If you have Netflix you should watch the movie "Motherland Afghanistan". The U.S. cannot fix everything, but it should not pretend like nothing is happening either. I agree with you that the OP doesn't have any right to take anyone to court. But if he feels in danger and upset, let him complain to whomever he wants. This immigration process is EXTREMELY stressful and heart wrenching. Now..can't we all get along?

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

The current President of the United States is from Kenya. Well, his dad is, but he's just recently visited Kenya. I'm sure he will be the best person to write and to complain to. Just tell him that Kenya is a hellhole and that you will sue the U.S. government if he doesn't get his act together.

Sometimes, it's really best to be straight forward.

[mehellie 9]

Now this last bit of info is free. Did you know that the US gov't keeps a list of names of undesireable people that they don't want in the country. You have to clear that list before you get a green card. Do you know how and where those names come from? Do you know how many people of the US gov't secretly monitor the internet around the clock? Do you know that they have the ability to determine who we are even if we don't use our real names? I wonder how they would feel reading this thread? Good luck on your journey! If you ever do make it here, let me know and i'll buy you a drink.

Sorry, it's not illegal to say that the government could be doing a better job. If that were the case, 99% of Americans would be in jail.

"I'm sure everything went peachy for you, otherwise you wouldn't sound so.. spiteful about me wanting things to be better?" Well, what happened was that I followed the rules (like them or not), did everything I was suppose to, waited my time just like everyone else, and then finally made it through it all. That is what immigrating is all about. It is not for trying to bend the rules to your own personal benefit, or berating the country that you are trying so hard to get too.

I have to say I followed all of the rules, but was harrassed by the Islamabad Embassy. Just because you follow the rules doesn't mean it all works out ok. I have been waiting almost 2 years to see my husband again. I take some of what you say to be valid. However, I am not joking about humanitarian violations. Though the US does aid other countries, it has also been a key player in violating human rights. For example: Afghanistan, Vietnam, and even the Holocaust. The U.S. did experiments on people by giving them syphilis without telling them. Many times the U.S. claims it does a great job aiding the world but greatly falls short. If you have Netflix you should watch the movie "Motherland Afghanistan". The U.S. cannot fix everything, but it should not pretend like nothing is happening either. I agree with you that the OP doesn't have any right to take anyone to court. But if he feels in danger and upset, let him complain to whomever he wants. This immigration process is EXTREMELY stressful and heart wrenching. Now..can't we all get along?

So sorry for your situation. I hope the immigration process works out for you soon.

The current President of the United States is from Kenya. Well, his dad is, but he's just recently visited Kenya. I'm sure he will be the best person to write and to complain to. Just tell him that Kenya is a hellhole and that you will sue the U.S. government if he doesn't get his act together.

Sometimes, it's really best to be straight forward.

Thanks, have already written letters to him and the local congressman, so hopefully that will have some effect.