Need help on my sad complicated case

[Goldfinch 0]

I didn't want it to be fake , the guy who fixed the whole thing got all the money and he even didn't give my ex anything , so she was told she had to blackmail me to get money she. Told me later everything even though she was a pathological lier , of course I knew after a couple of days that the whole thing was a fake but living on her promises that she would come and live with me and make it real coz she loved me , all that made me wait and give her chances after chances and support her until I learned she was doing drugs from her ex , that's when I left without even waiting for my social which was on the way , It was in the mail 2 weeks after I left , I know y'all think I am not honest but that's what happened

[Goldfinch 0]

And about my fiencee we are together 3 years now isn't that enough to know her ? She Is doing everything in the world for me , she Is risking her life to come here in this bad conditions and fragile security situation just to marry me and make the whole thing work , to marry here it's gonna cost us more than $5000 plus application fees so it's not a joke and I hope everyone understands that

[jojolicious 38]

i think love and the desire to be loved + being young and naive = poor judgement sometimes

I get what you're saying. We've all at one point in time or another been blinded by love... but it all just sounds incredible to me

[Obc333 24]

I didn't want it to be fake , the guy who fixed the whole thing got all the money and he even didn't give my ex anything , so she was told she had to blackmail me to get money she. Told me later everything even though she was a pathological lier , of course I knew after a couple of days that the whole thing was a fake but living on her promises that she would come and live with me and make it real coz she loved me , all that made me wait and give her chances after chances and support her until I learned she was doing drugs from her ex , that's when I left without even waiting for my social which was on the way , It was in the mail 2 weeks after I left , I know y'all think I am not honest but that's what happened

Ok. How long ago was that? How long have you known your new wife? What time limit did you set in getting things done? These are stuff the CO are looking at. If you seem to be doing things in a rush and the fact that you already applied and for whatever reason did not finish the process is gonna send up red flags.

I think you should try to let things die down and then retry or they might bar you permanently from the country

[Rufus2012 175]

I didn't want it to be fake , the guy who fixed the whole thing got all the money and he even didn't give my ex anything , so she was told she had to blackmail me to get money she. Told me later everything even though she was a pathological lier , of course I knew after a couple of days that the whole thing was a fake but living on her promises that she would come and live with me and make it real coz she loved me , all that made me wait and give her chances after chances and support her until I learned she was doing drugs from her ex , that's when I left without even waiting for my social which was on the way , It was in the mail 2 weeks after I left , I know y'all think I am not honest but that's what happened

I don't know whether you're telling the truth here. Your story is all over the place and it seems that you struggle in explaining it, which makes people suspicious. This may be an even more important reason for you to get a lawyer. A CO has minutes to make a decision, and if you come across as scattered as your posts are, it's not going to help you. I'm not trying to insult you here, we all have our strengths and weaknesses, but when you have a controversial case like yours, you absolutely need to be clear in how you communicate it (and of course honest). Get professional help, or that money you spend on a visa is likely going down the drain.

[jojolicious 38]

And about my fiencee we are together 3 years now isn't that enough to know her ? She Is doing everything in the world for me , she Is risking her life to come here in this bad conditions and fragile security situation just to marry me and make the whole thing work , to marry here it's gonna cost us more than $5000 plus application fees so it's not a joke and I hope everyone understands that

We're not saying it's a joke. Every action or omission in life has a consequence. When you're in a relationship where it is reduced to paper and the legitimacy of that relationship judged by a stranger then things that wouldn't even usually matter in a ordinary relationship can be seen as red flags or complications. (When I say ordinary relationship I mean one where both parties are citizens of the same country residing in their home country).

A visa is a privilege, not a right. A visa is granted by a CO based on his/ her discretion. In the exercise of that discretion, the CO is allowed to go over every detail of your past and your fiancee's past with a fine-toothed comb to determine if your relationship is bona fide.

A fine-toothed comb will not be needed to discover your previous marriage to a USC and the ties to "marriage broker" charged/ convicted of "selling" immigration benefits. That is a big glaring red flag. Probably at the top of the pile of documents in your A# file.

Three years is a long time to be with someone. Noone here can discount that. However, you have a few hurdles to overcome. The application fees you speak of sound expensive but look at an immigration attorney's retainer and fees as an important and necessary investment in you and your fiancee's future.

You have a long journey ahead of you. If your intentions are truly pure, I wish you all the best.

[Golden Gate 530]

It's not so incredible that people here will get involved with someone from another country to get money from them. I have heard of several instances of this and these people are called grifters, and their whole guise is to convince their victims of their sincerity in order to scam them of money.

Edited December 21, 2011 by Golden Gate

[Rufus2012 175]

It's not so incredible that people here will get involved with someone from another country to get money from them. I have heard of several instances of this and these people are called grifters, and their whole guise is to convince their victims of their sincerity in order to scam them of money.

Sure, but the OP doesn't sound wealthy, I'm not getting the angle.

[Goldfinch 0]

Of course I am not gonna tell the consul all the details I am just gonna say I did a fraud and that's it but u asked for details and I am telling u what happened I know it might be hard for u to believe , like it's hard to believe that my new fiencee I met online and within 2 weeks she traveled the half world from the deep south to a country which most Americans would be terrified just to hear its name , we were in love by talking to each other online in just 2 weeks and she came and we met and spent the best days of our lives that was 3 years ago and we are still together , talking on webcam every single day and we wanna get married even though we know that we will probably be denied wether it makes sense to you or not our love is so strong that we wanna do everything we could to make it work

[Golden Gate 530]

Sure, but the OP doesn't sound wealthy, I'm not getting the angle.

No, you don't have to be wealthy, you just have to be willing to give your money. Who knows what he was told he was giving the money for. I know of someone who was giving money to his 'wife' because he loved her and wanted to be with her, but she was just playing him to have someone support her. He was just a manual laborer, so he had very little money. However, for her, it was just a business arrangement, and nothing more.

[Rufus2012 175]

No, you don't have to be wealthy, you just have to be willing to give your money. Who knows what he was told he was giving the money for. I know of someone who was giving money to his 'wife' because he loved her and wanted to be with her, but she was just playing him to have someone support her. He was just a manual laborer, so he had very little money. However, for her, it was just a business arrangement, and nothing more.

I suppose. I guess not every con artist is going after the type of people Madoff ripped off.

[Deputy Purple 1,294]

Of course I am not gonna tell the consul all the details I am just gonna say I did a fraud

The problem with this thought is that when you conceal part of the story then what you do tell lacks what's called the "ring of truth" and the CO's are keen on catching people concealing facts so you trip their radar every time.

If you can't be 1,000 percent honest with a CO at the interview then you shouldn't even bother trying.

If you want any chance of fixing the horrible mess you've already created then now is the time to stop hiding stuff and be completely honest.

[jojolicious 38]

No, you don't have to be wealthy, you just have to be willing to give your money. Who knows what he was told he was giving the money for. I know of someone who was giving money to his 'wife' because he loved her and wanted to be with her, but she was just playing him to have someone support her. He was just a manual laborer, so he had very little money. However, for her, it was just a business arrangement, and nothing more.

Interesting...but the OP said the broker was the one getting all the money. It would be more understandable if he was giving the money directly to his wife to "support the household" or as an "allowance" or for some "sick relative"

[beejay 125]

I am not sure if claiming to be a victim or claiming responsibility is going to get you further with USCIS. This is something an experienced lawyer can tell you and prep you for. I know you said you can't afford a lawyer but I think it's your only chance to make any sense of this situation. I believe you can get a consultation with attorney Laurel Scott (even over the phone) for a few hundred dollars. That could at least give you an idea if this is worth pursuing and what direction to take. Otherwise maybe you need to start looking at 3rd countries to live in.

[Golden Gate 530]

Interesting...but the OP said the broker was the one getting all the money. It would be more understandable if he was giving the money directly to his wife to "support the household" or as an "allowance" or for some "sick relative"

Yes. Since he's not giving us the whole story, we can't really say what is going on here and it is pretty amazing that they got so far that he was getting his social security card. It's not clear to me how he was fooled, if he was.