Russia oil spills wreak devastation

[Danno 1,228]

Math was never a strong suit for you I see.

Lame-dodge.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

The Feds employee some real dildos in regard to watch dogging the oil industry. They are usually fresh out of college douches that want to save the world but don't have clue on how stuff works...like the oil industry. They fly up to the North Slope here in Alaska (summer months only) and BP gives them what's called "The Tour". It consist of taking them around Endicott Island on an air boat, giving them a tour of a processing facility, stuffing their guts with gourmet food, showing them some wildlife like bears and muskox and then giving them BP logo coats, baseball caps, nice carry on bags, and some other bs souvenirs before their stuck back on the plane. And when their gone everyone has a good laugh.

[Misha & Ira 113]

Math was never a strong suit for you I see.

Did you see Kip's post? Well written, his own thoughts based on his perspective and in his own words....nicely done without slinging insults. This is what debate and discussion is supposed to be, not venom laced invective for those who disagree with him.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Did you see Kip's post? Well written, his own thoughts based on his perspective and in his own words....nicely done without slinging insults. This is what debate and discussion is supposed to be, not venom laced invective for those who disagree with him.

I sit in the middle on these debates. I mean the oil industry pays my bills, but I know them for what they are and I don't trust them any further than I could throw em. I'm 100% pro development as long as it's done in a safe manor with a fall back plan or two in place in case of a disaster.

The key is making as small a footprint as possible with no fck ups.

[Misha & Ira 113]

I sit in the middle on these debates. I mean the oil industry pays my bills, but I know them for what they are and I don't trust them any further than I could throw em. I'm 100% pro development as long as it's done in a safe manor with a fall back plan or two in place in case of a disaster.

The key is making as small a footprint as possible with no fck ups.

I couldn't agree more. No reasonable person wants to see oil all over the place. It amazed me that BP would let so much oil escape...it told me that oil is not as rare as some would have us believe.

[Nina~ 431]

The Feds employee some real dildos in regard to watch dogging the oil industry. They are usually fresh out of college douches that want to save the world but don't have clue on how stuff works...like the oil industry. They fly up to the North Slope here in Alaska (summer months only) and BP gives them what's called "The Tour". It consist of taking them around Endicott Island on an air boat, giving them a tour of a processing facility, stuffing their guts with gourmet food, showing them some wildlife like bears and muskox and then giving them BP logo coats, baseball caps, nice carry on bags, and some other bs souvenirs before their stuck back on the plane. And when their gone everyone has a good laugh.

You forgot about the season tickets, "conferences" in St Croix, etc when they are not in Alaska.

Most of the executives in oil companies have either previously worked for MMS or plan on joining MMS as a "consultant" in the future. MMS and regulation was like asking your dog to watch over your food.

[Nina~ 431]

I couldn't agree more. No reasonable person wants to see oil all over the place. It amazed me that BP would let so much oil escape...it told me that oil is not as rare as some would have us believe.

There is plenty of oil, unfortunately a lot of it is in conflict zones (like MEA and West Africa) or in formations that are not cost-effective to produce. Oil companies will drill for the easy oil first and wait till there is a shortage and oil prices shoot up before going for the rest of the oil. From what I have gathered, we will not run out of oil at least in our lifetime but I have no scientific numbers to prove it, just industry hearsay.

[ready4ONE 5,400]

Lame-dodge.

Google the scientific term 'scale' and get back to us with your comparison Danno.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

I couldn't agree more. No reasonable person wants to see oil all over the place. It amazed me that BP would let so much oil escape...it told me that oil is not as rare as some would have us believe.

172 Million barrels of oil escaped apparently. Seems like a lot? Well the US would consume that amount in about 9.55 days.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

172 Million barrels of oil escaped apparently. Seems like a lot? Well the US would consume that amount in about 9.55 days.

Well, according to our resident experts here, the Gulf consumed it in a year's time. Poof. It just magically disappeared. All we gotta figure out now is how to reverse that magic process and oil would be available forever - no need to drill even. It would just magically appear.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

There is plenty of oil, unfortunately a lot of it is in conflict zones (like MEA and West Africa) or in formations that are not cost-effective to produce. Oil companies will drill for the easy oil first and wait till there is a shortage and oil prices shoot up before going for the rest of the oil. From what I have gathered, we will not run out of oil at least in our lifetime but I have no scientific numbers to prove it, just industry hearsay.

They do the same thing up here. Conoco for instance will cap off wells until oil goes up. They already got the easy oil out of the Kaparuk field and now they have to use water and gas to force it out, so when the price of oil goes down they start laying off and shutting down wells until it goes back up.

In regards to Africa...little funny story here. There's an older welder from Oklahoma named "Red" that's a total hick from the sticks, but this guy is one of the best when it comes to fitting and welding. So anyways BP ask him if he wants to work in Africa for a year (anything out of country for a year or more is tax free) and Red says sure I'm game. So anyways BP flies him to whatever country in Africa..I can't remember which one, and the first morning on the bus leaving camp Red see's armed guards on the bus, and a few dead bodies in the street. The bus runs through a small crowd of protesters on its way to the processing facility and ol Red's freaking out by now. It's his first time out side of the US and he's getting a big dose of it. So he tells whoever from BP down there that he better be on a plane first thing in the morning or "he's fixing to give someone a shiner". It's like a month later and we see him back at camp on the Slope and he told us that story in that hard core Okie accent of his and he had us rolling. Needless to say none of us ever took up a BP offer to work for them in Africa if they ever asked.

[Nina~ 431]

They do the same thing up here. Conoco for instance will cap off wells until oil goes up. They already got the easy oil out of the Kaparuk field and now they have to use water and gas to force it out, so when the price of oil goes down they start laying off and shutting down wells until it goes back up.

In regards to Africa...little funny story here. There's an older welder from Oklahoma named "Red" that's a total hick from the sticks, but this guy is one of the best when it comes to fitting and welding. So anyways BP ask him if he wants to work in Africa for a year (anything out of country for a year or more is tax free) and Red says sure I'm game. So anyways BP flies him to whatever country in Africa..I can't remember which one, and the first morning on the bus leaving camp Red see's armed guards on the bus, and a few dead bodies in the street. The bus runs through a small crowd of protesters on its way to the processing facility and ol Red's freaking out by now. It's his first time out side of the US and he's getting a big dose of it. So he tells whoever from BP down there that he better be on a plane first thing in the morning or "he's fixing to give someone a shiner". It's like a month later and we see him back at camp on the Slope and he told us that story in that hard core Okie accent of his and he had us rolling. Needless to say none of us ever took up a BP offer to work for them in Africa if they ever asked.

I got a disturbingly funny Africa story too. One of my co-workers came back from Angola with his foot in a huge cast. So we were asking him about it. Apparently he had been shot and had his laptop stolen while walking from his hotel to the office which was right next door. We were all shocked and asked why he didn't just give up the laptop when he saw a guy with a gun, and the guy was like "He didnt even ask me for the laptop, he just shot me and took it!!!"

But that doesn't deter a lot of the guys from going to Africa. They get their regular salary + expenses reimbursed + $1600/day bonus. That is $22,400 in just bonus for 2 weeks.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

I got a disturbingly funny Africa story too. One of my co-workers came back from Angola with his foot in a huge cast. So we were asking him about it. Apparently he had been shot and had his laptop stolen while walking from his hotel to the office which was right next door. We were all shocked and asked why he didn't just give up the laptop when he saw a guy with a gun, and the guy was like "He didnt even ask me for the laptop, he just shot me and took it!!!"

But that doesn't deter a lot of the guys from going to Africa. They get their regular salary + expenses reimbursed + $1600/day bonus. That is $22,400 in just bonus for 2 weeks.

He must have been like "####### am I doing here?"

Back in the late 90's when BP got their foot in the door on Sakhalin Island, Russia they got the bright idea to hire from Alaska with the idea that we would be better for the job seeing how our weather here is pretty much the same as Russia Far East (Raytheon does the same thing for Antarctica jobs), but what they didn't figure on was how much we drink and and the nightly fights with the Brits and the Scots that were on that job. Add the Russians with their homemade vodka and hookers to the mix and it was WW2 all over again. When the Russians weren't stealing everything out of the camp including the light bulbs they were showing us how to drink vodka after work. Back then you had area's you weren't allowed to leave and armed guards to make sure those rules weren't broke. I lasted all of six + months on that job. I was on my way back to work there from Anchorage, and I met a Russian gal at the airport in Magadan and ended up missing my flight to Sakhalin. I went AWOL for close to two weeks and when they didn't buy my story that I got kidnapped at the airport they let me work for another three weeks until the next flight out. The turn over rate on that job was unreal. Not so much because of the working conditions, but the extra curricular activities after work that came with it.

Edited December 20, 2011 by Why_Me