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I've been reading as many topics as I can, and I haven't found one to answer this yet. Sorry if I'm repeating! :innocent:

I'm currently in a relationship with a Costa Rican, living in Costa Rica. We're not engaged, but we think maybe in 2 years time we'd like to get married and move back to the States. I think the CR-1 would be a good choice because then he'd be able to work right away. What I'm wondering is do I (US cit) need to be in the States to file during the whole process? I'm wondering if in 2 years we could fly to the States, get married, come back to Costa Rica and live here together while the visa is being processed. Or is that just a wild dream?

Also, when you marry, does the non US cit get dual citizenship? Or is that a whole other process? Thanks! :)

N-400 May 2017 Google Doc

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Filed from abroad- Costa Rica

NOA1- NOA2: 316 days

Jan 12, 2013: Married!!
Mar 19, 2013: NOA1

Jan 28, 2014: I-130 approved

NVC- Green Card in Hand: 189 days

Feb 3, 2014: TSC sends case to NVC
April 14: Real checklist for AOS (saying tax number was incorrect when it wasn't)
April 30: Another AOS checklist, for proof of employment (which was already sent)
May 1: Checklist for IV- certified marriage certificate (even though I sent a certified one originally)
July 1: INTERVIEW!!! - APPROVED!
July 16: POE through Miami
July 22: SSN card in the mail
August 30, 2014: Green card arrives in the mail!!!
 
ROC: 366 days
April 27, 2016: Sent 300 page ROC packet to VSC via overnight mail
May 16: Check shown as charged online, received NOA 1 dated April 29
June 20, 2016- Biometrics
April 28, 2017: Approval
May 4, 2017: Approval letter arrived
May 15, 2017: GC arrives in mail
 
N-400: 190 days
May 8: Sent packet to Dallas Lockbox
May 12: NOA 1, Credit card charged
June 7: Biometrics
June 16: "In line"
Oct 2: Interview letter arrives (online status still says ''in line'')
Oct 31: Interview- Approved!
Nov 13: Oath ceremony!  Applied for passport & registered to vote on site.
Nov 22: Passport arrives (paid for expedited service and overnight delivery)
 
Journey complete! A total of 1701 days or 4 years, 7 months and 26 days.
Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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Posted

What I'm wondering is do I (US cit) need to be in the States to file during the whole process?

No

I'm wondering if in 2 years we could fly to the States, get married, come back to Costa Rica and live here together while the visa is being processed. Or is that just a wild dream?

It's not a wild dream, you can do that if you wish.

Also, when you marry, does the non US cit get dual citizenship?

No, he would have to reside in the US for 3 consecutive years before he would be eligible to apply for US Citizenship.

Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Posted

I'll give a general answer to your questions, someone who is more familiar with CR can chime in with specifics. :)

No, you don't have to be in the US to start the process. Some consulates are sticklers for the USC to re-establish domicile ahead of the spouse getting zir visa, though. Also, you may want to look into seeing if Direct Consular Filing (DCF) is available for CR, as that will shave off time to get said visa.

As for your second question, no, the spouse does not automatically gain US citizenship upon marrying a USC. Dual citizenship may be allowed by the CR government; the US realizes dual citizenry exists, but does not officially endorse it.

Holding my nose and jumping off the cliff.. hope I don't hit any rocks in the water.

"All I want out of life is ice cream and cuddles. Is it too much to ask? Is it?" - Sleep Talkin' Man

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138 days from NOA1 - NOA2

14 days from CIS till NVC case number assigned.

Posted (edited)

No, he would have to reside in the US for 3 consecutive years before he would be eligible to apply for US Citizenship.

Thanks for the quick replies!

So in order to get citizenship, he needs to be in the US for 3 years without leaving? Or does he just need to reside in USA for 3 years? I thought the CR-1 was a multientry visa. Or maybe I'm getting all the letters and numbers mixed up. Sorry for being a total visa newbie. :unsure:

edit:

I just checked to see if Costa Rica allows DCF, and they don't.

Edited by lucybelle

N-400 May 2017 Google Doc

Full timeline- 

 

Filed from abroad- Costa Rica

NOA1- NOA2: 316 days

Jan 12, 2013: Married!!
Mar 19, 2013: NOA1

Jan 28, 2014: I-130 approved

NVC- Green Card in Hand: 189 days

Feb 3, 2014: TSC sends case to NVC
April 14: Real checklist for AOS (saying tax number was incorrect when it wasn't)
April 30: Another AOS checklist, for proof of employment (which was already sent)
May 1: Checklist for IV- certified marriage certificate (even though I sent a certified one originally)
July 1: INTERVIEW!!! - APPROVED!
July 16: POE through Miami
July 22: SSN card in the mail
August 30, 2014: Green card arrives in the mail!!!
 
ROC: 366 days
April 27, 2016: Sent 300 page ROC packet to VSC via overnight mail
May 16: Check shown as charged online, received NOA 1 dated April 29
June 20, 2016- Biometrics
April 28, 2017: Approval
May 4, 2017: Approval letter arrived
May 15, 2017: GC arrives in mail
 
N-400: 190 days
May 8: Sent packet to Dallas Lockbox
May 12: NOA 1, Credit card charged
June 7: Biometrics
June 16: "In line"
Oct 2: Interview letter arrives (online status still says ''in line'')
Oct 31: Interview- Approved!
Nov 13: Oath ceremony!  Applied for passport & registered to vote on site.
Nov 22: Passport arrives (paid for expedited service and overnight delivery)
 
Journey complete! A total of 1701 days or 4 years, 7 months and 26 days.
Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
Timeline
Posted

So in order to get citizenship, he needs to be in the US for 3 years without leaving? Or does he just need to reside in USA for 3 years?

Reside for 3 years. If he were to leave for 6 months or more during that time, the clock resets.

I thought the CR-1 was a multientry visa. Or maybe I'm getting all the letters and numbers mixed up. Sorry for being a total visa newbie. :unsure:

The visa itself is single entry. The holder is given a green card at entry in the form of an I-551 stamp. The card itself will arrive in the mail a short time later.

Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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edit:

I just checked to see if Costa Rica allows DCF, and they don't.

Then you'll have to go through the long wait most of the rest of us are going through. You'll send your I-130 to the Chicago lockbox, and from there it will either be sent to California or Vermont for processing. You still need to check (or someone familiar with CR should chime in) if CR is strict on the USC re-establishing domicile ahead of the beneficiary getting zir visa.

Holding my nose and jumping off the cliff.. hope I don't hit any rocks in the water.

"All I want out of life is ice cream and cuddles. Is it too much to ask? Is it?" - Sleep Talkin' Man

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

WithoutMusic-theidolhands.pngSquareOneIcon.pngMYV2avaruusvirta.pngCarmenSandiego-theidolhands.pngSuckIt-stellans.jpg

138 days from NOA1 - NOA2

14 days from CIS till NVC case number assigned.

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

Thanks for all the replies so far!

I haven't figured out about whether or not I have to "re-establish domicile ahead of the beneficiary", but let's say for now that I don't... :whistle:

While working here in Costa Rica, I will be making right around what 2011 Poverty Guidelines describes as the 100% poverty line ($14,710). So I have a few questions:

1- I will not be paid in USD, rather in local currency. How would that effect the process? Would I just need to show what the exchange rate is?

2- I have a good amount of USD in bank accounts, would that make up for the amount of money I'm under on the 125% above poverty?

3- Since I wouldn't have a job in the States while applying, would that negatively affect the likelihood of being approved? I'm a teacher and down here schools run on the southern hemisphere schedule. So their "summer break" is Dec-Feb. If I left at the end of a school year here (December or January), I would probably be without a job until August (the start of northern hemisphere schools). I wouldn't be able to line up a job that early, most schools do hiring in April/May/June.

Thanks again! :thumbs:

N-400 May 2017 Google Doc

Full timeline- 

 

Filed from abroad- Costa Rica

NOA1- NOA2: 316 days

Jan 12, 2013: Married!!
Mar 19, 2013: NOA1

Jan 28, 2014: I-130 approved

NVC- Green Card in Hand: 189 days

Feb 3, 2014: TSC sends case to NVC
April 14: Real checklist for AOS (saying tax number was incorrect when it wasn't)
April 30: Another AOS checklist, for proof of employment (which was already sent)
May 1: Checklist for IV- certified marriage certificate (even though I sent a certified one originally)
July 1: INTERVIEW!!! - APPROVED!
July 16: POE through Miami
July 22: SSN card in the mail
August 30, 2014: Green card arrives in the mail!!!
 
ROC: 366 days
April 27, 2016: Sent 300 page ROC packet to VSC via overnight mail
May 16: Check shown as charged online, received NOA 1 dated April 29
June 20, 2016- Biometrics
April 28, 2017: Approval
May 4, 2017: Approval letter arrived
May 15, 2017: GC arrives in mail
 
N-400: 190 days
May 8: Sent packet to Dallas Lockbox
May 12: NOA 1, Credit card charged
June 7: Biometrics
June 16: "In line"
Oct 2: Interview letter arrives (online status still says ''in line'')
Oct 31: Interview- Approved!
Nov 13: Oath ceremony!  Applied for passport & registered to vote on site.
Nov 22: Passport arrives (paid for expedited service and overnight delivery)
 
Journey complete! A total of 1701 days or 4 years, 7 months and 26 days.
Posted

CR-1 or K-1 is okay, I suggest try K-1 for it's a bet faster (depend on your case though) compare to CR-1. Both should be filed by you in the US except if you've been living to Costa Rica for a period of time where you can file the petition at the US embassy but I don't thin k you do. You're wife can have a dual citizenship if she desires too and if Costa Rica allows it according to their immigration law but you, as US citizen you can't have a Costa Rican citizenship.

Dec 15,2009 - Assigned interview date on January 24,2010!!

Jan. 24, 2010 - Interview!! Approved

Jan. 28, 2010 - VISA received

Mar. 03,2010 - POE, New York (JFK)

Apr. 12,2010- CA ID

May 20,2010- CA Driving License

May, 25,2010-Wife told me that she is pregnant ^_^

Jan.25,2011- Our daughter was born

Lee and Jen + Karenza

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ireland
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Posted (edited)

1. Will your job continue once you move to the USA? If so, submit a letter from your employer that states your salary once you arrive in the US. If not, your income doesn't count, as it will stop as soon as the visa is being used.

2. You would need x3 the shortfall of US income. You can sponsor on assets only if you have enough- not uncommon when the petitioner lives abroad.

3. A job offer letter is not enough. Sounds like you need to sponsor on assets or find a co=sponsor.

Edited by Penguin_ie

Bye: Penguin

Me: Irish/ Swiss citizen, and now naturalised US citizen. Husband: USC; twin babies born Feb 08 in Ireland and a daughter in Feb 2010 in Arkansas who are all joint Irish/ USC. Did DCF (IR1) in 6 weeks via the Dublin, Ireland embassy and now living in Arkansas.

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Posted

1. Will your job continue once you move to the USA? If so, submit a letter from your employer that states your salary once you arrive in the US. If not, your income doesn't count, as it will stop as soon as the visa is being used.

2. You would need x3 the shortfall of US income. You can sponsor on assets only if you have enough- not uncommon when the beneficiary lives abroad.

3. A job offer letter is not enough. Sounds like you need to sponsor on assets or find a co=sponsor.

No, the job would not continue in the USA.

So if I have three times the amount above the poverty line in "assets" (this is money in the bank, right?), would that be sufficient?

Thanks for your help!

N-400 May 2017 Google Doc

Full timeline- 

 

Filed from abroad- Costa Rica

NOA1- NOA2: 316 days

Jan 12, 2013: Married!!
Mar 19, 2013: NOA1

Jan 28, 2014: I-130 approved

NVC- Green Card in Hand: 189 days

Feb 3, 2014: TSC sends case to NVC
April 14: Real checklist for AOS (saying tax number was incorrect when it wasn't)
April 30: Another AOS checklist, for proof of employment (which was already sent)
May 1: Checklist for IV- certified marriage certificate (even though I sent a certified one originally)
July 1: INTERVIEW!!! - APPROVED!
July 16: POE through Miami
July 22: SSN card in the mail
August 30, 2014: Green card arrives in the mail!!!
 
ROC: 366 days
April 27, 2016: Sent 300 page ROC packet to VSC via overnight mail
May 16: Check shown as charged online, received NOA 1 dated April 29
June 20, 2016- Biometrics
April 28, 2017: Approval
May 4, 2017: Approval letter arrived
May 15, 2017: GC arrives in mail
 
N-400: 190 days
May 8: Sent packet to Dallas Lockbox
May 12: NOA 1, Credit card charged
June 7: Biometrics
June 16: "In line"
Oct 2: Interview letter arrives (online status still says ''in line'')
Oct 31: Interview- Approved!
Nov 13: Oath ceremony!  Applied for passport & registered to vote on site.
Nov 22: Passport arrives (paid for expedited service and overnight delivery)
 
Journey complete! A total of 1701 days or 4 years, 7 months and 26 days.
Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ireland
Timeline
Posted

So if I have three times the amount above the poverty line in "assets" (this is money in the bank, right?), would that be sufficient?

It's best to be comfortably over in assets to be reasonably sure of approval. So if it is just the two of you, no kids or other dependants, try to list assets of $65'000 or more. Money in the bank is great, as definitely a liquid asset. Other assets may also be considered, such as shares, property (especially a second/ rental home), second car etc.

Bye: Penguin

Me: Irish/ Swiss citizen, and now naturalised US citizen. Husband: USC; twin babies born Feb 08 in Ireland and a daughter in Feb 2010 in Arkansas who are all joint Irish/ USC. Did DCF (IR1) in 6 weeks via the Dublin, Ireland embassy and now living in Arkansas.

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Posted

It's best to be comfortably over in assets to be reasonably sure of approval. So if it is just the two of you, no kids or other dependants, try to list assets of $65'000 or more. Money in the bank is great, as definitely a liquid asset. Other assets may also be considered, such as shares, property (especially a second/ rental home), second car etc.

Perfect! Thank you so much for your help! :thumbs:

N-400 May 2017 Google Doc

Full timeline- 

 

Filed from abroad- Costa Rica

NOA1- NOA2: 316 days

Jan 12, 2013: Married!!
Mar 19, 2013: NOA1

Jan 28, 2014: I-130 approved

NVC- Green Card in Hand: 189 days

Feb 3, 2014: TSC sends case to NVC
April 14: Real checklist for AOS (saying tax number was incorrect when it wasn't)
April 30: Another AOS checklist, for proof of employment (which was already sent)
May 1: Checklist for IV- certified marriage certificate (even though I sent a certified one originally)
July 1: INTERVIEW!!! - APPROVED!
July 16: POE through Miami
July 22: SSN card in the mail
August 30, 2014: Green card arrives in the mail!!!
 
ROC: 366 days
April 27, 2016: Sent 300 page ROC packet to VSC via overnight mail
May 16: Check shown as charged online, received NOA 1 dated April 29
June 20, 2016- Biometrics
April 28, 2017: Approval
May 4, 2017: Approval letter arrived
May 15, 2017: GC arrives in mail
 
N-400: 190 days
May 8: Sent packet to Dallas Lockbox
May 12: NOA 1, Credit card charged
June 7: Biometrics
June 16: "In line"
Oct 2: Interview letter arrives (online status still says ''in line'')
Oct 31: Interview- Approved!
Nov 13: Oath ceremony!  Applied for passport & registered to vote on site.
Nov 22: Passport arrives (paid for expedited service and overnight delivery)
 
Journey complete! A total of 1701 days or 4 years, 7 months and 26 days.
Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: France
Timeline
Posted

Thanks for all the replies so far!

I haven't figured out about whether or not I have to "re-establish domicile ahead of the beneficiary", but let's say for now that I don't... :whistle:

While working here in Costa Rica, I will be making right around what 2011 Poverty Guidelines describes as the 100% poverty line ($14,710). So I have a few questions:

1- I will not be paid in USD, rather in local currency. How would that effect the process? Would I just need to show what the exchange rate is?

2- I have a good amount of USD in bank accounts, would that make up for the amount of money I'm under on the 125% above poverty?

3- Since I wouldn't have a job in the States while applying, would that negatively affect the likelihood of being approved? I'm a teacher and down here schools run on the southern hemisphere schedule. So their "summer break" is Dec-Feb. If I left at the end of a school year here (December or January), I would probably be without a job until August (the start of northern hemisphere schools). I wouldn't be able to line up a job that early, most schools do hiring in April/May/June.

Thanks again! :thumbs:

Like you were told, yes you'll be able to file from Costa Rica and wait there most of the process, as long as you can show that you plan to relocate to the US.

Don't forget to keep filing your taxes with IRS while you live and work in CR. You'll need to show your tax returns, even though you eventually get a co-sponsor.

CR1 Visa

USCIS STAGE: 16 days No expedite request but USC residing abroad
NVC STAGE: 19 days from case # to case complete
03/27/12: interview at Paris embassy - APPROVED
04/12/12: POE San Diego

ROC
01/15/14: sent I-751 application

05/14/14: received card production notification by e-mail, approval date 05/13

Naturalization

02/01/24: N-400 submitted online; Biometrics reuse notice received immediately online; "case being actively reviewed" after a couple hours

02/09/24: received NOA1 by mail

02/10/24: received biometrics reuse notice by mail

04/08/24: interview scheduled for 05/14. Received "We have taken an action in your case" email.

05/14/24: approved at interview, same-day oath ceremony in San Francisco 🥳 🇺🇸

 

Passport

06/10/24: application submitted at post office for passport book and card, paid for expedited processing and shipping

06/24/24: received email notification that passport was approved, then shipped with tracking number

06/25/24: passport received

 
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