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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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My wife (who arrived here with a K-1 as my fiancee on 9/14/2011) will have her I-94 expire TODAY, 12/13/2011. We were married on 11/11/2011; and I mailed my AOS for her on 11/30/2011, after gathering all of the required documentation and money for fees. Per Fedex, "J. Chyba" at the courier address in Chicago signed for it one day later on 12/1/2011.

Today is 12/13/2011 and I have not heard anything from anyone. I called my bank, and the check has not been cashed. I called USCIS Customer Service and it does not show up in their system yet. Apparently, it is collecting dust in the facility where it arrived. The screen-reader at USCIS customer service would not answer the question I was asking, which is: what will be her status TOMORROW (unless by some miracle, there is a NOA1 when we get home)? What do we need to do to keep her legal, if anything? I guess I have proof I mailed it prior-to her I-94 expiration, in my Fedex delivery confirmation. Does that date they signed for it become the receipt date, or will that be when they actually begin processing? Do I need to do anything in the meantime, like file an extension?

Also, in my rush to get everything off, I forgot to include the AP form. We don't have any specific plans in the immediate future, but it would be nice to have if something comes up. Since they are not processing our packet yet, can I mail that in NOW and include a letter saying to please stick this with our our AOS packet, as we forgot to include it with the initial packet - which has not been processed yet?

Thanks to all who respond.

06/20/2002 - Introduced through her Aunt
07/05/2002 - Correspondence begins and continues for years; friendship and feelings slowly but surely grow stronger.
05/12/2009 - Met in Philippines! Stayed for two weeks and had a great time. Can't wait to go back!
10/11/2009 - She said YES! (became engaged)

USCIS
10/29/2010 - Mailed I-129F
11/08/2010 - Check cashed
11/11/2010 - Received NOA1 dated 11/05/2010 (My case landed in Vermont - #######!)
11/15/2010 - Touched
04/05/2011 - It's been 5 months and not a peep from USCIS/VSC :-(
04/19/2011 - Touched/Text Message and Email this AM (APPROVED!)
04/22/2011 - Hard copy NOA2 received (166 days)

US Embassy
(All dates are Philippines dates)
05/20/2011 - Birth Certificate error cleared up
06/03/2011 - Fiancee waiting for her Passport
06/03/2011 - Not a peep from the Embassy (Manila)
07/21/2011 - Passport obtained
07/22/2011 - Interview scheduled 8/4
08/01/2011 - Fiancee and family on first flight EVER, to Manila
08/02/2011 - Medical
08/03/2011 - Medical (Passed, no concerns)
08/04/2011 - Interview! Passed! (they think)
08/24/2011 - Received Embassy email indicating fiance's visa has been issued!
08/31/2011 - 09/13/2011 Philippines Vacation!
09/14/2011 - Arrived together in Dallas, TX!

11/11/2011 - Married!

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She would be in a period of authorised stay, what I call pending.

The fact that you tracked it and know that it made it to the facility is a plus and I don't think you should be worried. People and things tend to slow down a bit during December because of the holidays.

You don't need to file an extension and even so I doubt you would be granted an extension of stay on a K-1's I-94.

I think it would be best for you to wait on your receipts before sending off the AP documents. Hopefully some other posters will shed some more light on your situation.

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Since you were married within 90days of entry on the K1 visa the visa requirements were satisfied. The I-94 date is irrelevant. It would have only come into play if it ran out and you guys did not yet get married.Do not send the AP on its own without having a case number (NOA1) the chances that it will get misplaced/lost etc are EXTREMELY high. Just make sure she does not leave the country until you do receive an approved AP OR her Green card.

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Until the USCIS acknowledges the receipt of the AoS package, the wife will be out of status. Don't matter, as no judge would give her a hard time as she fulfilled the requirements of the K-1 and thus is eligible for AoS. In fact, if a federal officer (and nobody else has such authority to begin with!) checked the database, she most likely would already have entered the period of authorized stay, ebven if the NoA hasn't been mailed out. In plain English: relax and have a glass of wine with your wife. Life is good.

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Since you were married within 90days of entry on the K1 visa the visa requirements were satisfied. The I-94 date is irrelevant. It would have only come into play if it ran out and you guys did not yet get married.Do not send the AP on its own without having a case number (NOA1) the chances that it will get misplaced/lost etc are EXTREMELY high. Just make sure she does not leave the country until you do receive an approved AP OR her Green card.

Actually - it is really relevant.

The out of status clock starts ticking when it expires, and if the person goes past 180 days, if they leave, without the GC, they invoke a ban upon re-entry into the US. The next part is really important.

Even if they get the AP, if they have 180+ days of overstay, they will incur the ban.

The rules for the I-94 do not disappear just because your here on a K-1 visa. I don't know why people make that assumption. Regardless if you met the conditions of the K-1 by marrying in 90 days.

Granted, the odds of you having issues would be low - however, with the current mood in some states, I would not want to take the risk of being "out of status".

There was a post here where the poster had issues in Texas, and was put in immigration detention till they could prove they had a NOA. Imagine what would of happened if they didn't.

Other issues by waiting to file the AOS are lack of travel outside the US, work, and the clock for USC.

My Advice is usually based on "Worst Case Scenario" and what is written in the rules/laws/instructions. That is the way I roll... -Protect your Status - file before your I-94 expires.

WARNING: Phrases in this post may sound meaner than they were intended to be. Read the Adjudicator's Field Manual from USCIS

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Actually - it is really relevant.

The out of status clock starts ticking when it expires, and if the person goes past 180 days, if they leave, without the GC, they invoke a ban upon re-entry into the US. The next part is really important.

Even if they get the AP, if they have 180+ days of overstay, they will incur the ban.

The rules for the I-94 do not disappear just because your here on a K-1 visa. I don't know why people make that assumption. Regardless if you met the conditions of the K-1 by marrying in 90 days.

Granted, the odds of you having issues would be low - however, with the current mood in some states, I would not want to take the risk of being "out of status".

There was a post here where the poster had issues in Texas, and was put in immigration detention till they could prove they had a NOA. Imagine what would of happened if they didn't.

Other issues by waiting to file the AOS are lack of travel outside the US, work, and the clock for USC.

Does this mean that when finally sending in the AoS to not include the application for AP because it would be a moot point?

Philippians 4:13...I can do all things through Christ who strengthens meGC Received: 02/04/2012

Useful Links for K-1 Visa Petition for USEM Philippines:

Packet 3 for K-1: http://photos.state....3__rtf2_001.pdf

St Luke's Website: http://www.slec.ph/u...ml#clinic-hours

Link to Schedule Interview: http://cgifederal.force.com/

CFO Website for Seminar: http://www.cfo.gov.p...onals&catid=140

Povery Guideline: http://www.uscis.gov...form/i-864p.pdf

Website to Download DS 156, 156K, & 157: http://travel.state....forms_1342.html

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Does this mean that when finally sending in the AoS to not include the application for AP because it would be a moot point?

Only if you have an overstay of 180+ days or near to it.

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10.18.2010 - RFE response sent certified mail
10.21.2010 - Service request placed for biometrics
10.25.2010 - RFE received per USCIS
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10.28.2010 - Biometrics appointment received, dated 10/22 - set for 11/19 @ 3:00 PM
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Only if you have an overstay of 180+ days or near to it.

Yep. There was a case here on VJ where the poster left with a valid AP - but discovered they had the ban upon re-entry.

USCIS doesn't check to see if your eligible for the AP - they even tell you about the ban in the instructions - it's CBP that gets you...

Once you get the GC - overstay is a non-issue.

My Advice is usually based on "Worst Case Scenario" and what is written in the rules/laws/instructions. That is the way I roll... -Protect your Status - file before your I-94 expires.

WARNING: Phrases in this post may sound meaner than they were intended to be. Read the Adjudicator's Field Manual from USCIS

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Yep. There was a case here on VJ where the poster left with a valid AP - but discovered they had the ban upon re-entry.

USCIS doesn't check to see if your eligible for the AP - they even tell you about the ban in the instructions - it's CBP that gets you...

Once you get the GC - overstay is a non-issue.

Thanks a bunch!

Philippians 4:13...I can do all things through Christ who strengthens meGC Received: 02/04/2012

Useful Links for K-1 Visa Petition for USEM Philippines:

Packet 3 for K-1: http://photos.state....3__rtf2_001.pdf

St Luke's Website: http://www.slec.ph/u...ml#clinic-hours

Link to Schedule Interview: http://cgifederal.force.com/

CFO Website for Seminar: http://www.cfo.gov.p...onals&catid=140

Povery Guideline: http://www.uscis.gov...form/i-864p.pdf

Website to Download DS 156, 156K, & 157: http://travel.state....forms_1342.html

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