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I know these kinds of questions have been answered before, and I did search it and read lots of helpful things, but I need someone to either reassure me that this is going to be okay, or tell me that it's definitely not.

I got my GC last week. Hubby and I had our civil ceremony in June, however we were always planning on having a much bigger, more formal, more religious "wedding" in Canada this coming August. I was already planning on going up with hubby early, say May or June, to prepare for the "wedding".

Now I've been offered several months of full-time work at my previous job in Canada, starting in Feb. For various reasons, it's not really working out for me to get a job here right now, and hubby is a substitute teacher still working on his teaching credentials, so me having some full-time work, however not ideal it is, would really help us out!

My sister also just had her first baby and I know that they could really use the help looking after her.

So, I would go up in Feb sometime, hubby would come up in June, and then we would both drive back to Cali in August. I'll be gone for about 7 months, and hubby will be there for the last two.

Is that going to cause me any issues? I know I don't need a re-entry permit for less than a year, but I see some people saying that anything more than six months is too long. Is that true, or just their paranoid opinion?

Does it make it worse that I have employment in Canada while I'm gone? Does it make it any better that I am also going with the intention of helping my sister?

I could really use some sound advice!

June 7, 2010 - Will asked me to marry him, and I said YES!!
October 4, 2010 - Will sent away the I-129F Petition
October 12, 2010 - NOA1 received!
October 15, 2010 - First "touch"
October 18, 2010 - Second "touch"
March 7, 2011 - NOA2!!!
March 18, 2011 - NVC forwarded our case to the Montreal Consulate....NOT where we wanted it to go!
March 25, 2011 - Email from Montreal saying that our case would be forwarded to Vancouver - only took one night for a reply from them smile.png
April 5, 2011 - Vancouver has our package!
April 6, 2011 - Received Packet 3 via email - now just waiting on my police certificate.
April 13, 2011 - faxed Packet 3 to Vancouver
April 14, 2011 - received Packet 4 via email
May 4, 2011 - Medical appointment
May 5, 2011 - Interview!! APPROVED smile.png


June 16, 2011 - POE at Blaine Peace Arch Crossing
June 28, 2011 - Got married by Elvis in Vegas!
Aug 8, 2011 - Received SSN in the mail.

Aug 31, 2011 - Sent off AOS Package
Sept 7, 2011 - Package received by USCIS
Sept 9, 2011 - Notice of Action email for AOS, EAD, and AP.
Sept 16, 2011 - Received my Biometrics Appt. letter for the 30th.
Sept 22, 2011 - RFE sad.png
Sept 30, 2011 - Biometrics Appt.
Oct 26, 2011 - Received interview letter for Dec 1st
Nov 4, 2011 - EAD/AP approved
Nov 12, 2011 - Received combo card in the mail
Dec 1, 2011 - Interview - APPROVED smile.png
Dec 9, 2011 - Greencard arrived in the mail!

Oct 18, 2013 - I-751 Package signed for at CA Service Center

Mar 5, 2014 - Approved! Awaiting greencard in the mail

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If you go for more than 6 months, you need re-entry permit to come back.

And I heard that IO at POE could deny your reentry if we leave too long (over 6 months), because it seems like we don't care much about residency.

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12/31/2014: Fingerprinted

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If you go for more than 6 months, you need re-entry permit to come back.

And I heard that IO at POE could deny your reentry if we leave too long (over 6 months), because it seems like we don't care much about residency.

Well, I'm pretty sure it's a year before I need my reentry permit.

June 7, 2010 - Will asked me to marry him, and I said YES!!
October 4, 2010 - Will sent away the I-129F Petition
October 12, 2010 - NOA1 received!
October 15, 2010 - First "touch"
October 18, 2010 - Second "touch"
March 7, 2011 - NOA2!!!
March 18, 2011 - NVC forwarded our case to the Montreal Consulate....NOT where we wanted it to go!
March 25, 2011 - Email from Montreal saying that our case would be forwarded to Vancouver - only took one night for a reply from them smile.png
April 5, 2011 - Vancouver has our package!
April 6, 2011 - Received Packet 3 via email - now just waiting on my police certificate.
April 13, 2011 - faxed Packet 3 to Vancouver
April 14, 2011 - received Packet 4 via email
May 4, 2011 - Medical appointment
May 5, 2011 - Interview!! APPROVED smile.png


June 16, 2011 - POE at Blaine Peace Arch Crossing
June 28, 2011 - Got married by Elvis in Vegas!
Aug 8, 2011 - Received SSN in the mail.

Aug 31, 2011 - Sent off AOS Package
Sept 7, 2011 - Package received by USCIS
Sept 9, 2011 - Notice of Action email for AOS, EAD, and AP.
Sept 16, 2011 - Received my Biometrics Appt. letter for the 30th.
Sept 22, 2011 - RFE sad.png
Sept 30, 2011 - Biometrics Appt.
Oct 26, 2011 - Received interview letter for Dec 1st
Nov 4, 2011 - EAD/AP approved
Nov 12, 2011 - Received combo card in the mail
Dec 1, 2011 - Interview - APPROVED smile.png
Dec 9, 2011 - Greencard arrived in the mail!

Oct 18, 2013 - I-751 Package signed for at CA Service Center

Mar 5, 2014 - Approved! Awaiting greencard in the mail

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It is a year for a reentry permit. But even for less you need to prove you are maintaining residency. Getting a job abroad and leaving the country for 7 months immediately after receiving your green card isn't going to look great. But if it's a one-time thing you'll probably be fine. I assume you will be keeping a residence, bank account, etc. in the US during this time?

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I am the USC, husband is adjusting from B2.

ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS

08.06.2010 - Sent off I-485
08.25.2010 - NOA hard copies received (x4), case status available online: 765, 131, 130.
10.15.2010 - RFE received: need 2 additional photos for AP.
10.18.2010 - RFE response sent certified mail
10.21.2010 - Service request placed for biometrics
10.25.2010 - RFE received per USCIS
10.26.2010 - Text/email received - AP approved!
10.28.2010 - Biometrics appointment received, dated 10/22 - set for 11/19 @ 3:00 PM
11.01.2010 - Successful biometrics walk-in @ 9:45 AM; EAD card sent for production text/email @ 2:47 PM! I-485 case status now available online.
11.04.2010 - Text/Email (2nd) - EAD card sent for production
11.08.2010 - Text/Email (3rd) - EAD approved
11.10.2010 - EAD received
12.11.2010 - Interview letter received - 01.13.11
01.13.2011 - Interview - no decision on the spot
01.24.2011 - Approved! Card production ordered!

REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS

11.02.2012 - Mailed I-751 packet to VSC
11.08.2012 - Checks cashed
11.10.2012 - NOA1 received, dated 11.06.2012
11.17.2012 - Biometrics letter received for 12.05.2012
11.23.2012 - Successful early biometrics walk-in

05.03.2013 - Approved! Card production ordered!

CITIZENSHIP

Filing in November 2013

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Would it be feasible to make this into a couple shorter trips? Though honestly I don't know for certain if that will make a difference. But then again, personally I don't think 7 months would be a problem.

For example, I've heard that some people get around the 90 day VWP duration in Japan by taking a short trip to S. Korea and then coming back. This effectively resets the clock on the time there. Of course making a habit of this kinda thing is bad, a one time occurrence may not set off any alarms. Don't know if such shenanigans will do any good here.

Additionally, there might be some tax implications here. There is a tax treaty between Canada and the US but there are some situations where you'd still have to pay US taxes on the difference if for some reason your US tax liability was higher. Though that's probably very unlikely.

It's kind of hard to imagine that not long ago one would go to Canada (and Mexico) by just waving a driver's license at the CBP! Oh the good old (simpler) times.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Uruguay
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Well, I'm pretty sure it's a year before I need my reentry permit.

It's a year but immigration officers do not like when a green card holder spends more time in another country thant in Usa in a year. I heard about other cases where immigration will hold you in a room and ask you a lot of questions!! you will have to show them that you have strong ties to USA and not ties like a bank account (anyone can go to a bank an open an account). Ties like properties, a job, etc.

K-1 VISA

02-03-2011 - I-129F sent

02-04-2011 - I-129F received. Signed by Vill.

02-10-2011 - NOA1 (Email-message)

02-15-2011- NOA1 (Hard-copy received)

03-06-2011 - NOA2(email-text message)

NOA2 (3 MONTHS,3 WEEKS,4 DAYS)

06-15-2011- Packet 3 received by email

08-04-2011- Packet 3 Back to the Embassy

08-25-2011- Packet 4 Received (Interview day:09-08-2011)

09-08-2011- Interview (APPROVED)

09-13-2011- Visa Received (It took only 3 business days)

09-22-2011- POE

09-23-2011- My baby's B-day!

AOS

11-18-2011- We got married!

01-20-2012- AOS package sent

01-23-2012- AOS package received by USCIS

01-27-2012- NOA1 (email)

02-01-2012- NOA 1 (Hard-Copy Received)

02-07-2012- Biometrics Appointment Notice Received

02-13-2012- Email saying case was transferred to another office(Waiting for the hard copy to see where it was sent)

02-17-2012- Hard-Copy received- AOS transferred to CSC

02-21-2012- Biometrics Appointment-

03-13-2012- Biometrics Retaken due to they didn't take right my fingerprints.

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Agree with ceadsearc.

They're unlikely to hold this ONE trip against you. While it's true 6 months absence CAN be used against you, they don't usually use the first one. You have valid reasons for going back for a bit though.

Bear in mind also that visits outside the US of more than 6 months pause your naturlization clock. Meaning it will be longer until you can apply for USC. I would personally return under the 6 months.

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Its so ridiculous, for a short visit to the states you need to prove ties to your home country then when you move here and live here, you need to prove that you won't leave. Why are they so ridiculously strict? A person should have the right to go back to their home country without losing all the privileges that we paid a lot of fees and waited many months for.

TIMELINE

2 0 1 1

3rd Feb - 129f Sent

10th Feb - NOA1

16th May - NOA2

8th August - Interview in London. APPROVED!

29th August - POE at SFO

7th Oct - Married

10th Oct - AOS Filed

17th Oct - NOA Letter(s)

20th Oct - Biometrics Letter (for 14th Nov)

28th Oct - Biometrics (walk-in)

2 0 1 2

3 Jan - Service Request Put In

13 Jan - EAD Approved

17 Jan - Interview Notice Received

24 Jan - EAD in hand

16 Feb - Interview Date. APPROVED!

2 0 1 3 / 2 0 1 4

21 Nov - ROC Filed

2 Dec - NOA

6 Jan - Biometrics (walk-in)

15 May - Card Ordered / Approved

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So, I would go up in Feb sometime, hubby would come up in June, and then we would both drive back to Cali in August. I'll be gone for about 7 months, and hubby will be there for the last two.

Is that going to cause me any issues? I know I don't need a re-entry permit for less than a year, but I see some people saying that anything more than six months is too long. Is that true, or just their paranoid opinion?

Does it make it worse that I have employment in Canada while I'm gone? Does it make it any better that I am also going with the intention of helping my sister?

Agreeing with Vanessa&Tony:

This one gig they won't hold against you. It's a bit unfortunate that you just got your Green Card and see that you get the hell out of Dodge City when you should be celebrating that you are now a permanent resident of the best country in the world, but I understand where you are coming from.

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

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Its so ridiculous, for a short visit to the states you need to prove ties to your home country then when you move here and live here, you need to prove that you won't leave. Why are they so ridiculously strict? A person should have the right to go back to their home country without losing all the privileges that we paid a lot of fees and waited many months for.

Not so, mate!

They are not ridiculously strict. Nobody gets their balls squeezed when coming back from a vacation. I make very good money, but I couldn't afford going on a vacation that lasts many months, and if I were unemployed, I couldn't afford having such a long one either. I'd be looking for a new job instead. What the immigration people trying to prevent is that somebody abuses their Green Card as a visitor's visa, just shows up once or twice a year for a few weeks and then leaves again. I'm in full support of that.

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

President Teddy Roosevelt on Columbus Day 1915

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I hope you're right, I just thought a temporary 2 year Green card must be revoked if you choose to return home for a while ie. more than several months. I want the freedom of being able to live between the two places without immigration being suspicious of me.

TIMELINE

2 0 1 1

3rd Feb - 129f Sent

10th Feb - NOA1

16th May - NOA2

8th August - Interview in London. APPROVED!

29th August - POE at SFO

7th Oct - Married

10th Oct - AOS Filed

17th Oct - NOA Letter(s)

20th Oct - Biometrics Letter (for 14th Nov)

28th Oct - Biometrics (walk-in)

2 0 1 2

3 Jan - Service Request Put In

13 Jan - EAD Approved

17 Jan - Interview Notice Received

24 Jan - EAD in hand

16 Feb - Interview Date. APPROVED!

2 0 1 3 / 2 0 1 4

21 Nov - ROC Filed

2 Dec - NOA

6 Jan - Biometrics (walk-in)

15 May - Card Ordered / Approved

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I hope you're right, I just thought a temporary 2 year Green card must be revoked if you choose to return home for a while ie. more than several months. I want the freedom of being able to live between the two places without immigration being suspicious of me.

It isn't just the 2-year green card, the same residency requirements apply for the 10-year card as well. Applying for a green card is saying that you are going to make the United States your primary residency, not that the US will be one of several. That doesn't mean you can't visit your home country as you please - even for extended periods of time, occasionally - but the US needs to be your permanent residence. As was mentioned above, in many cases the other things that help prove the residency of a green card holder (like a job) are hard to maintain if the PR is frequently out of the country.

The ability to come and go for however long you please is a privilege exclusive to citizens. Once naturalized, you can stay out of America as long as you want. But a permanent resident must permanently reside in America.

OUR TIMELINE

I am the USC, husband is adjusting from B2.

ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS

08.06.2010 - Sent off I-485
08.25.2010 - NOA hard copies received (x4), case status available online: 765, 131, 130.
10.15.2010 - RFE received: need 2 additional photos for AP.
10.18.2010 - RFE response sent certified mail
10.21.2010 - Service request placed for biometrics
10.25.2010 - RFE received per USCIS
10.26.2010 - Text/email received - AP approved!
10.28.2010 - Biometrics appointment received, dated 10/22 - set for 11/19 @ 3:00 PM
11.01.2010 - Successful biometrics walk-in @ 9:45 AM; EAD card sent for production text/email @ 2:47 PM! I-485 case status now available online.
11.04.2010 - Text/Email (2nd) - EAD card sent for production
11.08.2010 - Text/Email (3rd) - EAD approved
11.10.2010 - EAD received
12.11.2010 - Interview letter received - 01.13.11
01.13.2011 - Interview - no decision on the spot
01.24.2011 - Approved! Card production ordered!

REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS

11.02.2012 - Mailed I-751 packet to VSC
11.08.2012 - Checks cashed
11.10.2012 - NOA1 received, dated 11.06.2012
11.17.2012 - Biometrics letter received for 12.05.2012
11.23.2012 - Successful early biometrics walk-in

05.03.2013 - Approved! Card production ordered!

CITIZENSHIP

Filing in November 2013

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Thanks for all the replies. I think I feel better about it. I guess the best thing I can do now is just figure out the best way to prove that I still have ties to the US. I really wasn't planning on being gone for so long, and yeah, I wish it wasn't RIGHT after I got my greencard. I agree that looks bad. I'm just not really sure what else to do I guess.

June 7, 2010 - Will asked me to marry him, and I said YES!!
October 4, 2010 - Will sent away the I-129F Petition
October 12, 2010 - NOA1 received!
October 15, 2010 - First "touch"
October 18, 2010 - Second "touch"
March 7, 2011 - NOA2!!!
March 18, 2011 - NVC forwarded our case to the Montreal Consulate....NOT where we wanted it to go!
March 25, 2011 - Email from Montreal saying that our case would be forwarded to Vancouver - only took one night for a reply from them smile.png
April 5, 2011 - Vancouver has our package!
April 6, 2011 - Received Packet 3 via email - now just waiting on my police certificate.
April 13, 2011 - faxed Packet 3 to Vancouver
April 14, 2011 - received Packet 4 via email
May 4, 2011 - Medical appointment
May 5, 2011 - Interview!! APPROVED smile.png


June 16, 2011 - POE at Blaine Peace Arch Crossing
June 28, 2011 - Got married by Elvis in Vegas!
Aug 8, 2011 - Received SSN in the mail.

Aug 31, 2011 - Sent off AOS Package
Sept 7, 2011 - Package received by USCIS
Sept 9, 2011 - Notice of Action email for AOS, EAD, and AP.
Sept 16, 2011 - Received my Biometrics Appt. letter for the 30th.
Sept 22, 2011 - RFE sad.png
Sept 30, 2011 - Biometrics Appt.
Oct 26, 2011 - Received interview letter for Dec 1st
Nov 4, 2011 - EAD/AP approved
Nov 12, 2011 - Received combo card in the mail
Dec 1, 2011 - Interview - APPROVED smile.png
Dec 9, 2011 - Greencard arrived in the mail!

Oct 18, 2013 - I-751 Package signed for at CA Service Center

Mar 5, 2014 - Approved! Awaiting greencard in the mail

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