Best and Worst Run States in America

[The_Dude 1,142]

So do you feel you've earned the right to spend other peoples' money by working for so long?

And, once you're back to work, are you going to reserve your right to b!tch about government/corporate relations since you've used up your share of unemployment insurance?

You know he'll just work long enough to be eligible to go back on welfare. He already stated previously that sitting on his butt, collecting money from the government is preferable to working.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

So do you feel you've earned the right to spend other peoples' money by working for so long?

And, once you're back to work, are you going to reserve your right to b!tch about government/corporate relations since you've used up your share of unemployment insurance?

Iv'e paid plenty into unemployment during my time and I don't feel all that bad drawing from it. In fact if next winter looks to be a bad one I'l probably take a layoff and draw again. I haven't been anywhere warm in a while now and I could use the vacation.

As far as government / corporate relations go...lol. I'm not someone who suffers from Stockholm Syndrome. More pay for the workers vs more money for big business. I'm not one who believes it means a better life for myself by getting on my knees and putting the boss mans pecker in my mouth. That's for peeps with a slave mentality who are used to getting it up the ####### from the big man and liking it for the fact they think they deserve it. Union ftw.

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Iv'e paid plenty into unemployment during my time and I don't feel all that bad drawing from it. In fact if next winter looks to be a bad one I'l probably take a layoff and draw again. I haven't been anywhere warm in a while now and I could use the vacation.

I wish you wouldn't be so upfront about your intentions to abuse the intent of the system. Talk like that is why so many RWN's hate anything that helps people.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

I wish you wouldn't be so upfront about your intentions to abuse the intent of the system. Talk like that is why so many RWN's hate anything that helps people.

Screw the RWN's. They can fly their ####### up here and bust their bum in -60 for 12+ hours a day, seven days a week while their lucky to get two hours of sunlight during the day up on the slope. The RWN's didn't have a problem when they laid off over 800 of us in the oil patch up here after Bush helped to tank the economy. My heart bleeds for those millionaires about as much as it bleeds for all the gay rights people who couldn't get the gay marriage law passed in California. That would be a big ZERO fyi.

If someone has a problem they should look at the peeps don't pay anything into the system and still draw out money.

Edited December 5, 2011 by Why_Me

[The_Dude 1,142]

Screw the RWN's. They can fly their ####### up here and bust their bum in -60 for 12+ hours a day, seven days a week while their lucky to get two hours of sunlight during the day up on the slope. The RWN's didn't have a problem when they laid off over 800 of us in the oil patch up here after Bush helped to tank the economy. My heart bleeds for those millionaires about as much as it bleeds for all the gay rights people who couldn't get the gay marriage law passed in California. That would be a big ZERO fyi.

If someone has a problem they should look at the peeps don't pay anything into the system and still draw out money.

Unlike gay people, you made a choice to live your life that way. You are free to leave Alaska any time you want to. I'm sorry that you feel you should be rewarded for your poor life decisions, but that just isn't teh way things work. You are abusing a system that is not designed to help you, but those who are in actual need, not just lazy.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Unlike gay people, you made a choice to live your life that way. You are free to leave Alaska any time you want to. I'm sorry that you feel you should be rewarded for your poor life decisions, but that just isn't teh way things work. You are abusing a system that is not designed to help you, but those who are in actual need, not just lazy.

I'l be sure and think about that post when I take my usual afternoon nap today.

[slim 1,533]

You know he'll just work long enough to be eligible to go back on welfare. He already stated previously that sitting on his butt, collecting money from the government is preferable to working.

Of course it is. Anyone with the opportunity to do so would, provided they can live the lifestyle they choose. If we're going to pay people to do nothing, I have no doubt people will do nothing.

Iv'e paid plenty into unemployment during my time and I don't feel all that bad drawing from it. In fact if next winter looks to be a bad one I'l probably take a layoff and draw again. I haven't been anywhere warm in a while now and I could use the vacation.

As far as government / corporate relations go...lol. I'm not someone who suffers from Stockholm Syndrome. More pay for the workers vs more money for big business. I'm not one who believes it means a better life for myself by getting on my knees and putting the boss mans pecker in my mouth. That's for peeps with a slave mentality who are used to getting it up the ####### from the big man and liking it for the fact they think they deserve it. Union ftw.

Can you relocate and still draw? Most places have rules against that. Also, aren't you supposed to be "looking" while unemployed? Don't you have to turn in times/dates of employers that you've applied with?

As for govt./business interaction, that's why we have the problem in the first place. If government didn't work with unions and regulate industries, we wouldn't have issues like unemployment. "But slim, we'd have no labor laws and child labor, no breaks, no minimum wage, etc." BS. We'd have a workforce that would earn what they deserved and live within their means.

If someone has a problem they should look at the peeps don't pay anything into the system and still draw out money.

I gladly prefer a dude like you over a baby mama with fo' kids that all wear Jordans. However, you're both part of the problem and aren't doing squat to fix it.

Unlike gay people, you made a choice to live your life that way. You are free to leave Alaska any time you want to. I'm sorry that you feel you should be rewarded for your poor life decisions, but that just isn't teh way things work. You are abusing a system that is not designed to help you, but those who are in actual need, not just lazy.

Gay people choose to live a gay lifestyle the same way non-gays choose to get divorced. You can't help who you're attracted to but you can help what you do with it.

The system is designed to benefit those who are lazy the same as it is to benefit those who make poor life decisions. The system is the problem, not the folks involved in it.

I'l be sure and think about that post when I take my usual afternoon nap today.

Nice!

Just make sure you stop b!tching so hard about all those lazy welfare moms who are "scamming the system" by taking advantage of handouts for no reason other than they're lazy whores. You may not be a #######, but you are being lazy and letting other peoples' hard work support you.

I understand the argument that some of that hard work was yours... but crunch the numbers. Haven't you used up all your hard work already?

[Darnell 8,479]

it's really amusing to see where 2 fellas got 'welfare' and 'unemployment compensation' utterly confoozled.

Thanks Guys !!

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Of course it is. Anyone with the opportunity to do so would, provided they can live the lifestyle they choose. If we're going to pay people to do nothing, I have no doubt people will do nothing.

It's the system. Again though it's the norm for construction. The work goes up one day, and down the next. Boom or bust so they know the deal. Someone has to build the ####### and they realize this and seeing how they aren't completely retarded to the construction industry and oil industry they know what the score is just like they know there's times when just about everyone at the hall will be out of work for the fact there isn't any work.

Can you relocate and still draw? Most places have rules against that. Also, aren't you supposed to be "looking" while unemployed? Don't you have to turn in times/dates of employers that you've applied with?

I could live in Florida and still draw from Alaska. Iv'e never heard of a rule before that says you have to live in the state your drawing from. Iv'e lived in Washington and drawn from Alaska, and vice versa. It's legal. As far as list of employers with who you have applied for...that went out the door two decades ago but it never applied for skilled trades unions in the first place. They ask you in the first and only phone interview if your in a trades union and if so what local and what is your ledger #. After that its nothing more than making a call on the telephone, entering your SSN, password, and hitting either the #1 key on your touch tone phone for yes, or #2 for no. It's a voice computer system...you never talk into the phone and it's not a real person on there. You do that twice a month and your money is direct deposited into whatever bank account you chose to have it put into.

As for govt./business interaction, that's why we have the problem in the first place. If government didn't work with unions and regulate industries, we wouldn't have issues like unemployment. "But slim, we'd have no labor laws and child labor, no breaks, no minimum wage, etc." BS. We'd have a workforce that would earn what they deserved and live within their means.

LOL? Are you for real or what? I agree with most of what you post on this board, but that one is completely out there. Most people and businesses are motivated by money. If you gave the businesses a free reign you would have more environmental problems along with worker safety issues than you could shake a stick at. I can remember back when safety harnesses weren't used and Iron Workers were dying on a weekly bases. Peeps would drag their lanyards along the iron so it looked like they were tied off to the guys down below but the company thought by doing this iron workers could move faster and get more work done. They could move faster all right, but when they slipped and/or got knocked off the iron chances were they hit the ground below with nothing more than a splat. I had friends who will never see another sunrise because of this, and a few of them left a wife and kids behind. I have no idea what line of work your in, but worker safety on the job is no joke. Even with the hard core safety rules being applied up on the slope, at least two to three guys a year up there lose their life. The oil companies up there fought against worker safety tooth and nail for years until they got hit with major fines and penalties when guys lost their lives for nothing more than they were being told to do something that wasn't safe. Dead is dead. When your dead...that's it...there's no tomorrow. No dad for the kids, and no husband for the wife and no son for the parents. It's just ...dead.

Oil companies love non union workers, and they love young workers who are new at the trades. Non union co workers will rarely tell a co worker to disobey an unsafe order for the fact it could be life threatening. Most of your non union workers will take risk a union worker won't take. Then again most of your recordable injuries and deaths on construction jobs are non union workers working for rat loving outfits who could give a rats ####### if a guy buys the farm or not as long as their insurance rates don't go up. Young kids are the same way. They will do anything they are told for the fact they are scared, they are new, and they don't know the ropes yet.

Anyone who thinks big business won't take advantage if they are given a free reign is suffering from a total lack of knowledge in regards to the industry. Businesses don't usually like paying for safety measures, but with the heavy fines being doles out these days it's more of a detriment to them and now you see guys being fired for violating safety rules and that's the way it should be. Nothing should be more important than human life when it comes to making a dollar. Human life > any bs excuse

I gladly prefer a dude like you over a baby mama with fo' kids that all wear Jordans. However, you're both part of the problem and aren't doing squat to fix it.

It's obvious your not in the construction industry and it's almost impossible to explain it to someone who doesn't know how it works.

Gay people choose to live a gay lifestyle the same way non-gays choose to get divorced. You can't help who you're attracted to but you can help what you do with it.

I'm 100% against gays and anything pro gay.

The system is designed to benefit those who are lazy the same as it is to benefit those who make poor life decisions. The system is the problem, not the folks involved in it.

Lazy is lazy. Iv'e seen guys from the lower 48 come off a plane for the first time on the slope and ask for a ticket back as soon as they stepped foot off the plane and into -60 or even colder temps. I call those guys p*ssies. Any guy that can't handle it in the construction trades is a giant p8ssy in my eyes. I know that's the wrong way to think, but it's been ingrained and it's a tough mentality to get rid of. Nothing worse than hearing some guy from the lower 48 saying his toes and ears are getting cold when your trying to fix an oil leak in a 36" pipe. You have to tell those guys to go sit in the truck and warm up and all it does is put more pressure on the guys doing the actual work. It's like the same p*ssies who work in an office, come up to the slope and decide to write a report and proper working procedures for the fact they found out it was too cold to their liking to do it outside on the job with the guys who have to abide by those procedures. Nothing worse than having some guy tell you how to do your job when they don't have the man balls to do it themselves.

Edited December 5, 2011 by Why_Me

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Nice!

Just make sure you stop b!tching so hard about all those lazy welfare moms who are "scamming the system" by taking advantage of handouts for no reason other than they're lazy whores. You may not be a #######, but you are being lazy and letting other peoples' hard work support you.

I pay plenty in taxes. In fact they take out well over $2,000 - $3,000 a week out of my check for FICA alone when I'm working up north. I have no idea where that money goes but I can sure b*tch about it. Next time you pump gas into your car, think about how that gas got their in the first place. From people like me who get dirtier than a p*g fck working sub zero temps. Work that a lot of p*ssie guys won't even do even though the money is good. Back in my time I didn't even know a guy who would say no to that kind of work. I was raised in farming/logging town and all the work there was pretty much sh*tty. It just goes to show how times have changed.

I understand the argument that some of that hard work was yours... but crunch the numbers. Haven't you used up all your hard work already?

I would much rather win the lottery than to work. I'm not one of those guys who don't have a life and see themselves working even if they hit the big one. I wouldn't have a problem living on a desert island for the rest of my life being served beer on a beach by young hot naked chicks all while watching satellite TV. I don't have any problem with drawing unemployment for the fact I cant count how many times Iv'e had to travel out of state for work in order to keep a roof over my head and food in my gut. Work that some guys see as too dirty and too physical.

Edited December 5, 2011 by Why_Me

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I think he's trying to tell us he works hard and doesn't like pussies (unless they're attached to the body of a Ukrainian gymnast).

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

I think he's trying to tell us he works hard and doesn't like pussies (unless they're attached to the body of a Ukrainian gymnast).

Finally someone on here gets it.

[The_Dude 1,142]

It's obvious your not in the construction industry and it's almost impossible to explain it to someone who doesn't know how it works.

So thats why you feel entitled to defraud the system? /facepalm

I'm 100% against gays and anything pro gay.

I'm 100% against imbeciles and anything pro-moron, but I don't think you people should be deprived of human rights.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

So thats why you feel entitled to defraud the system? /facepalm

Defraud? Then why is it that once the unemployment employee ask if your in a trades union and you answer "yes", your good to go? Is it maybe because they know something you don't? If you have never worked construction and you don't have a clue about it then why argue about it? Learn up on it first and then come back and press your case.

I'm 100% against imbeciles and anything pro-moron, but I don't think you people should be deprived of human rights.

And I'm guessing you think people that r@pe sheep have rights also eh?

[Dakine10 5,452]

it's really amusing to see where 2 fellas got 'welfare' and 'unemployment compensation' utterly confoozled.

Thanks Guys !!

On a certain level the comparison is valid. Once someone starts drawing more from UI than they put in, somebody else is paying for them.

I wouldn't equate use of welfare with use of UI, but to some extent, I would equate abuse of welfare with abuse of UI.