So what happens to couples who don't get the visa???

[Tahlisha 28]

I think terminating the relationship is horrible for a married man/woman it is horrendous, as for people intending to marry then it is equally as shock as well because you'll find the innocent moroccan family not knowing the realities of the visa process be totally distraught when their daughter/SON is abandoned all because the visa was denied.

The immigration visa process has to be overhauled tremendously,FOR TRUE COUPLES WITH SINCERE INTENTIONS

My husband and I didn't get the K-1 and were never told why.... We weren't even told we were denied... Just told our case needed further review and then closed because the dates expired.... We have since Married and have now started the CR-1 process...... For me if it were that easy just to pick up and move there I would... But it's not... And I think it is safe to say that is the fact for most americans going through this process..... My husband is suffering from depression now and it breaks my heart to see him this way..... I have not seen a real smile from him since I was in Morocco earlier this year.... He has said he doesn't even care about the visa anymore he just wants me to be with him.... But because of my daughter I can't just pick up and move..... Those who just give up were never sincere...... Or maybe they just can't handle the stresses of this process and the easy way out is to walk away..... As for me I trully love my husband and he loves me so we are in it for the long haul even thou we both are hurting..... While we wait for his next interview I will start the process to gain permission from the courts to take my daughter and figure out all the stuff for for school and such just in case we don't get the visa....

[Tahlisha 28]

This question really should make couples make a back up plan.Just in case they dont get the visa.

It isnt promised and it shouldnt be the reason marriage is based on.

Only someone who's intentions are not sincere would the relationship be based on a visa.... This would be with anyone seeking a visa not just Moroccans...... And honestly I think in most cases it is easier from someone to come here rather than an american go to whatever country especially "3rd world" countries..... A back up plan is needed because you don't know if you will get the visa or not.....

[Tahlisha 28]

This dude? I hope your english improves before your immigration appointment.

How do you know it was not the petitioner who made this comment????? DUDE is a very common word in the states.... Bart Simpson uses it all the time

[Tahlisha 28]

If I have offended anyone here I'm sorry.All I was looking for was examples of how people cope with denials.Thanks for your comments

But why do you ask the question????? How would anyone deal with being apart from their signifigant other????? Why do you need to know????? How did the folks you have helped deal with it??? I am sure some were denied or had long periods of time being apart just like the rest of us

[Eesaan 5]

You don't know anything about me aside from the tiny blurb here on VJ about my life. However, you spoke about being a researcher in your above post. I have no problem asking for 'pointers' when I need them. When I do, I tend not to ask from people who initiate a post then jibe at people's english because they are asked who they are. Although I believe your intentions are innocent and agree that it is an important topic, as a Moroccan expert you must be aware that some people don't have good intentions when it comes to asking sensitive questions about visa issues--thus people ask them to identify themselves.

Just saying...

Well I'm no expert I just have time put it,but everyone can learn from time to time, as for the previous posts the moderators intervened(gag order)

[Eesaan 5]

My husband and I didn't get the K-1 and were never told why.... We weren't even told we were denied... Just told our case needed further review and then closed because the dates expired.... We have since Married and have now started the CR-1 process...... For me if it were that easy just to pick up and move there I would... But it's not... And I think it is safe to say that is the fact for most americans going through this process..... My husband is suffering from depression now and it breaks my heart to see him this way..... I have not seen a real smile from him since I was in Morocco earlier this year.... He has said he doesn't even care about the visa anymore he just wants me to be with him.... But because of my daughter I can't just pick up and move..... Those who just give up were never sincere...... Or maybe they just can't handle the stresses of this process and the easy way out is to walk away..... As for me I trully love my husband and he loves me so we are in it for the long haul even thou we both are hurting..... While we wait for his next interview I will start the process to gain permission from the courts to take my daughter and figure out all the stuff for for school and such just in case we don't get the visa....

Yes that sounds really sad,May Allah make it easy for both of you(ameen)I dont know why the usa consulate is so hard on people.I like your spirit and perseverance I have a friend who was denied due to financial reasons(he's now searching for a sponsor) As for morocco it is hard to adjust to. Have you consulted your local congressman or senator for a letter of recommendation?

[Tahlisha 28]

Yes that sounds really sad,May Allah make it easy for both of you(ameen)I dont know why the usa consulate is so hard on people.I like your spirit and perseverance I have a friend who was denied due to financial reasons(he's now searching for a sponsor) As for morocco it is hard to adjust to. Have you consulted your local congressman or senator for a letter of recommendation?

Yes I have contacted my congressman and he was no help at all... His inqury didn't get any more info than I got myself....

[Eesaan 5]

But why do you ask the question????? How would anyone deal with being apart from their signifigant other????? Why do you need to know????? How did the folks you have helped deal with it??? I am sure some were denied or had long periods of time being apart just like the rest of us

I guess the question was meant to emphasize the hardship of separation, but couples simply have to go through it ,as I was told many years ago for myself.Getting married through the govt was hard and is harder now. Most of my people through out the years got their visas, the only ones who didnt were ones who didnt correspond with govt when told to,and Most problems arose with the scrutiny of the usa consulate. when I first applied in 2001 the fiance visa was really the FASTEST route...my friend had his wife in america in 3 months time. Luckily the K3 visa had just came out ,so I wasnt to far away.

[Eesaan 5]

Yes I have contacted my congressman and he was no help at all... His inqury didn't get any more info than I got myself....

well the inquiry will be noted in your file which will be seen when the next visa attemp(meeting with the consulate). They do have a big impact especially if a case meets the criteria to be expedited.

Edited December 9, 2011 by ihsaan

[Tahlisha 28]

I guess the question was meant to emphasize the hardship of separation, but couples simply have to go through it ,as I was told many years ago for myself.Getting married through the govt was hard and is harder now. Most of my people through out the years got their visas, the only ones who didnt were ones who didnt correspond with govt when told to,and Most problems arose with the scrutiny of the usa consulate. when I first applied in 2001 the fiance visa was really the FASTEST route...my friend had his wife in america in 3 months time. Luckily the K3 visa had just came out ,so I wasnt to far away.

The K-1 process was very fast for my brother in-law and sister in-law Who both married White nonmuslims who were once married to each other..... They had no problems at all.... They communicated less then my husband and I prior to their filing and their vist was shorter than mine.... My husband was asked questions like why he wanted to marry a black woman.... And I feel he was asked certian questions to intentially confuse him.... Like being asked waht my father did for a living after he told them my father died more than 20 years ago....

[Eesaan 5]

The K-1 process was very fast for my brother in-law and sister in-law Who both married White nonmuslims who were once married to each other..... They had no problems at all.... They communicated less then my husband and I prior to their filing and their vist was shorter than mine.... My husband was asked questions like why he wanted to marry a black woman.... And I feel he was asked certian questions to intentially confuse him.... Like being asked waht my father did for a living after he told them my father died more than 20 years ago....

Exactly inside the consulate they have these moroccan employee/translator who will ask questions that are simply outlandish and down right none of their business.

I guess feel they must ask questions that will compel moroccans to tell the truth, usually(not always) in morocco lighter people don't marry darker people.

A friend of mine's wife was questioned extensively about his criminal past and then she was denied ,and also was told her fiance(at that time)was a bad man.

[Staashi 371]

Only someone who's intentions are not sincere would the relationship be based on a visa.... This would be with anyone seeking a visa not just Moroccans...... And honestly I think in most cases it is easier from someone to come here rather then an american go to whatever country especially "3rd world" countries..... A back up plan is needed because you don't know if you will get the visa or not.....

Actually, people get married all the time because of visa denial. How many ladies on MENA have gotten married to their fiance after their K1 was denied? Plenty! Thus, I'm sure that the DOS takes this into consideration as well. Hence, the denial becomes the basis for the marriage. A few years ago, it seemed like anyone who was denied and did a CR1 was approved quickly. However, it now seems like CR1s are being arbitrarily denied if it is the 2nd petition following a K1. Somehow, if DOS suspects fraud the first time they're not too quick to change their mind now.

And Shayma, a huge red flag against your case isn't your race - it might new a questionable factor in your relationship. However, it's that your husband has two siblings who received visas. You two might have a true relationship, but to DOS this is a clear sign of familial fraud.

[msheesha 548]

The K-1 process was very fast for my brother in-law and sister in-law Who both married White nonmuslims who were once married to each other..... They had no problems at all.... They communicated less then my husband and I prior to their filing and their vist was shorter than mine.... My husband was asked questions like why he wanted to marry a black woman.... And I feel he was asked certian questions to intentially confuse him.... Like being asked waht my father did for a living after he told them my father died more than 20 years ago....

I think they ask a lot of questions in different ways when they suspect a person has "rehearsed" answers or studied for the interview. Not saying this is the case with your fiance. It just came to mind when you said questions to intentionally confuse him.

[Tahlisha 28]

Actually, people get married all the time because of visa denial. How many ladies on MENA have gotten married to their fiance after their K1 was denied? Plenty! Thus, I'm sure that the DOS takes this into consideration as well. Hence, the denial becomes the basis for the marriage. A few years ago, it seemed like anyone who was denied and did a CR1 was approved quickly. However, it now seems like CR1s are being arbitrarily denied if it is the 2nd petition following a K1. Somehow, if DOS suspects fraud the first time they're not too quick to change their mind now.

And Shayma, a huge red flag against your case isn't your race - it might new a questionable factor in your relationship. However, it's that your husband has two siblings who received visas. You two might have a true relationship, but to DOS this is a clear sign of familial fraud.

I would like to beleive my race and religon were not factors in our being denied..... And I do realize the fact that he has 2 siblings here may have something to do with it as well.... My issue is why didn't my sister in-law have a problem when their petition came through the subject of her "finace" having been married to her brothers wife had not been questioned.... Neither was the fact that her husband took shahada only to marry her... Why weren't these things red flags for them??????

[msheesha 548]

Actually, people get married all the time because of visa denial. How many ladies on MENA have gotten married to their fiance after their K1 was denied? Plenty! Thus, I'm sure that the DOS takes this into consideration as well. Hence, the denial becomes the basis for the marriage. A few years ago, it seemed like anyone who was denied and did a CR1 was approved quickly. However, it now seems like CR1s are being arbitrarily denied if it is the 2nd petition following a K1. Somehow, if DOS suspects fraud the first time they're not too quick to change their mind now.

And Shayma, a huge red flag against your case isn't your race - it might new a questionable factor in your relationship. However, it's that your husband has two siblings who received visas. You two might have a true relationship, but to DOS this is a clear sign of familial fraud.

I think most people would say the denial becomes the basis for the date and location of the marriage, not the basis of the marriage itself.