Student questions Michele Bachmann on gay rights

[Danno 1,228]

I have only known one gay couple really well. When I stayed in Munich, I slept at their apartment - the first time with my wife, and then when I got divorced, I stayed there with them on my own

At first I didn't even know they were gay - they sure were not advertising it.

Phil 'came out' to me in a bar in Munich. A gay bar. I was well into my bucket so I didn't even know it was a gay bar until I was introduced to Lulu who was 6 foot 6 and a Bavarian with leather shorts...

He never tried anything with me. Why should he - he knew that you are what you are and its no good trying for a conversion. That works both ways so Barkmad's husband is wasting his time trying to convert gays and make them into Herman Caine's

It appears that there are several kinds of gays ranging from paedophile gays to 'normal' gays.

That's the way it is for heteros too of course

If that is the case then a 30 year old gay male at home with a 13 year old boy is no different to a 30 year old hetero male at home with a 13 year old girl.. But that only holds true if neither 30 year old male is a paedophile

It also struck me that very many paedophile males are married to women. Plenty in the news right now. Actually, Barkmad sort of acknowledged that her husband is gay when she said gay men should marry women.

He really is

So gay/straight isn't enough information for us to condemn anyone

Not to try and nitpick but a thirteen year old is often about to have and make babies..... thats hardly in the pedophilia category..

Not sure why instances of men having sex with young men is so often referred to as Pedophilia?

We saw this consistently with the Priest abuse scandal and even now with the couches having sex with boys, in some cases pre puberty and most cases older than that.

Pedophilia implies some deep sexual sickness, but what we have in these instances are men with no restrain, preying on young adults, it's more of a sickness of character.

[Golden Gate 530]

Not to try and nitpick but a thirteen year old is often about to have and make babies..... thats hardly in the pedophilia category..

Not sure why instances of men having sex with young men is so often referred to as Pedophilia?

We saw this consistently with the Priest abuse scandal and even now with the couches having sex with boys, in some cases pre puberty and most cases older than that.

Pedophilia implies some deep sexual sickness, but what we have in these instances are men with no restrain, preying on young adults, it's more of a sickness of character.

I don't see the difference. In all these cases: priests, coaches...sick man down the street...they are sick in their head and probably were abused themselves as children, and are in positions of authority taking advantage of someone under their authority.

"Child molesters have taken positions as youth pastors, boy-scout leaders, coaches, teachers, child-care providers, counselors, and employees at establishments that serve children. They slowly get to know their targets. They make friends with the child and start the “seduction” process. They try to become the child’s confidant and often offer email addresses, home addresses, and phone numbers. Child molesters remain patient and often have several children they are trying to seduce at the same time. This type of seduction is all about gaining trust with the child. Children are not attracted to their abusers, but they do start to trust them as a friend. "

My link

A teacher was just caught about 20 minutes from my home for having sex with one of his high school students, and there has also just been a case of an older teenager preying on younger students.

I don't see a person who can have a baby at 10 or 12 as being a young adult. Perhaps their body is developed, but not their mind.

Edited December 4, 2011 by Golden Gate

[Dakine10 5,452]

Not to try and nitpick but a thirteen year old is often about to have and make babies..... thats hardly in the pedophilia category..

Not sure why instances of men having sex with young men is so often referred to as Pedophilia?

We saw this consistently with the Priest abuse scandal and even now with the couches having sex with boys, in some cases pre puberty and most cases older than that.

Pedophilia implies some deep sexual sickness, but what we have in these instances are men with no restrain, preying on young adults, it's more of a sickness of character.

You've said that twice now about the coach. IDK if you followed the case initially, but the first victim in the Penn state case was 10 years old. The coach is not just a bad character. He's a pedophile.

[Danno 1,228]

I don't see the difference. In all these cases: priests, coaches...sick man down the street...they are sick in their head and probably were abused themselves as children, and are in positions of authority taking advantage of someone under their authority.

"Child molesters have taken positions as youth pastors, boy-scout leaders, coaches, teachers, child-care providers, counselors, and employees at establishments that serve children. They slowly get to know their targets. They make friends with the child and start the “seduction” process. They try to become the child’s confidant and often offer email addresses, home addresses, and phone numbers. Child molesters remain patient and often have several children they are trying to seduce at the same time. This type of seduction is all about gaining trust with the child. Children are not attracted to their abusers, but they do start to trust them as a friend. "

My link

A teacher was just caught about 20 minutes from my home for having sex with one of his high school students, and there has also just been a case of an older teenager preying on younger students.

I don't see a person who can have a baby at 10 or 12 as being a young adult. Perhaps their body is developed, but not their mind.

Bottom line, sex with teenagers is not pedophile, That I believe pertains to "pre-puberty".

[Golden Gate 530]

Bottom line, sex with teenagers is not pedophile, That I believe pertains to "pre-puberty".

So, a prepubescent teenager that is preyed upon by an adult teacher isn't pedophilia to you? Or are you saying, if the teenager has hit puberty and is preyed upon by an adult teacher, that isn't pedophilia to you?

Edited December 4, 2011 by Golden Gate

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

So, a prepubescent teenager that is preyed upon by an adult teacher isn't pedophilia to you? Or are you saying, if the teenager has hit puberty and is preyed upon by an adult teacher, that isn't pedophilia to you?

Why didn't any of these hot women teachers prey upon me? That would have been better than Christmas about the time I was in high school. I never figured out which young man complains about that? Probably gay.

At any rate, the legal age in most states is 18, some 16. I am OK with either of those.

[Danno 1,228]

So, a prepubescent teenager that is preyed upon by an adult teacher isn't pedophilia to you? Or are you saying, if the teenager has hit puberty and is preyed upon by an adult teacher, that isn't pedophilia to you?

Oh yes, words have definitions... sorry.

There is actually another name for sex with young teens, can't recall what it is right now.

[Golden Gate 530]

Why didn't any of these hot women teachers prey upon me? That would have been better than Christmas about the time I was in high school. I never figured out which young man complains about that? Probably gay.

At any rate, the legal age in most states is 18, some 16. I am OK with either of those.

LOL. I knew a guy who was seduced by his teacher. Apparently it kind of screwed him up, because he was in therapy into his 20's.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

LOL. I knew a guy who was seduced by his teacher. Apparently it kind of screwed him up, because he was in therapy into his 20's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0XLKcMoXRE

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

LOL. I knew a guy who was seduced by his teacher. Apparently it kind of screwed him up, because he was in therapy into his 20's.

I'm screwed up and didn't have sex with my French teacher. Dammit. I lived in Texas, I should have taken Spanish but I took French because the teacher was HOT. She never hit on me. I wonder how many other poor choices in men she made?

[Danno 1,228]

We had one teacher who was reported to have been a Playboy bunny, I'm guessing a waitress at one of their clubs, anyway she was hot and no doubt in the daydreams of many a student.

[Alex13 5]

I'l tell ya why. Because some of us here including myself find the homosexual lifestyle sick and repulsive and we don't want our children thinking it's the norm. Next up will be people marrying their pets.

Marriage is between a man and a woman.

That is mental.

[The_Dude 1,142]

I'l tell ya why. Because some of us here including myself find the homosexual lifestyle sick and repulsive and we don't want our children thinking it's the norm. Next up will be people marrying their pets.

Marriage is between a man and a woman.

Marriage is whatever the law defines it as, which can be changed.

I'l be sure and post on here when I change my mind and think a guy wanting to get fckd in the ####### by another man while he has a pecker in his gob as part of the norm for society.

You sure do seem to think about gay people and their sex a lot. I would trust a gay man over someone who thinks it is acceptable to beat their spouse. It's sad that your phobia has caused such hatred. I imagine Kinsey would have rated you about a 3 or a 4.

spanky spanky,licky licky for the the bad little girls who were pillow fighting in their panties and t-shirt.

[Captain Oates 911]

I think the best statement I heard on gay rights was by the Chairman of a large Metropolitan Transport authority in England

He was a coal miner and a union man and so his Chairmanship was a political appointment. He made Jimmy Hoffer look sophisticated.

His Chief Executive was a professional architect and a real nancy gay. The organization was extremely politically correct

The Chief Executive took the Chairman to see the site of a proposed new railway station and on the way back, the gay guy said " Do you mind if we go to my house, there are some papers I need to take to the office ?"

The Chairman (coal miner) said in the broadest gruffest Yorkshire accent, 'You can do what you effing want so long as you keep your xxxx out of my xxxx"

I think that sums up my attitude to gay rights too

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

That is mental.

Mental is one guy wanting to get it on with another guy. Now that's mental.