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How about country clubs and golf courses? Those are private organizations that've been forced by the government to integrate against their will.

Country clubs tried that argument in the 1960's, and this is what the court ruled.

Following the passage of the Civil Rights Act in 1965, dozens of businesses and facilities – including swimming pools – tried to argue that they were "private clubs" so that they could exclude African Americans. The courts quickly developed a test to distinguish between truly "private" organizations and those that only claimed to be. Very few facilities qualified as truly "private."

In order to be exempt from the civil rights laws, a "private" club must truly reserve its facilities for members, and must have genuinely exclusive membership criteria – a club that will admit anyone who is not African American does not qualify. Courts deciding whether a club is “private” in this sense will consider the history and purpose of the club (including whether it was created to circumvent desegregation), the club advertises for members, it is directly controlled by its members and operated solely for their benefit, and the club is operated for profit.

Since when are religious institutions bound to abide by civil rights?

I was specifically talking about private clubs. Your arguments are extremely circular.

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extremely circular.
Nothing like being a well-rounded individual, no man.

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I have this sudden urge to self-immolate.
There are probably more commercially available products for exmoliation, see man, but feel free to immolate if it's legal, free man.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Please stop trolling, Tbone.
The "report" button is at lower left, see man.

Actually, if AJ immolates, that constitutes flaming, phlogiston man.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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one post removed for ¨Restrict or inhibit any other user from using and enjoying the Forums¨

and one quoting that post.

further posts along that line, or additional bickering, and the thread ban hammer comes out.

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USE THE REPORT BUTTON INSTEAD OF MESSAGING A MODERATOR!

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Wow - so he'll be adjusting from his 'student visa' to a green card based on marriage.

No Babtistry required, after all.

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one post removed for ¨Restrict or inhibit any other user from using and enjoying the Forums¨

and one quoting that post.

further posts along that line, or additional bickering, and the thread ban hammer comes out.

Charles, that is a load of bullsh!t and you know it. I was simply asking him to stop trolling, or return to his normal thread. People are trying to discuss politics and religion, which TBone has made no attempt to do. I would think you would at least warn him about going off topic and trying to hijack threads. Some people find his caricature act offensive.

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Charles, that is a load of bullsh!t and you know it. I was simply asking him to stop trolling, or return to his normal thread. People are trying to discuss politics and religion, which TBone has made no attempt to do. I would think you would at least warn him about going off topic and trying to hijack threads. Some people find his caricature act offensive.

then use the ignore feature. it´s not your place to be telling anyone to not post in a thread.

:ot2:

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USE THE REPORT BUTTON INSTEAD OF MESSAGING A MODERATOR!

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then use the ignore feature. it´s not your place to be telling anyone to not post in a thread.

:ot2:

Charles, you really are a poor moderator. You can clearly read from my post that I was asking him not to troll, and remind him that some people find his offensive act grating. I do have him on ignore, but he responded to a post I made, so I replied as well.

I wonder how you would have moderated yourself just a few years ago Charles.....

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what's wrong with a private organization discriminating on skin color? The NAACP does this all the time. So does the "United Negro College Fund."

:thumbs:

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Steven, I know your white guilt prevents you from seeing discrimination in other forms, but open your eyes a bit and take a look around.

Seriously, where did you get that idea from?

Your argument might be valid if NAACP tried to subjugate other races in order to create a group of second class citizens for their personal gain. However they do not do that. They try to promote Blacks to equalize racial disparity. Same thing with the Negro Fund, they provide Black students with scholarships so that they can be in the same playing field as White or Asian kids. Nothing racist about that. If they start screaming about wanting separate classes and water fountains for Blacks, then there might be in some truth in what you are saying.

Go and subscribe membership to NAACP. I am sure that you wont get the same reception as a black guy trying to join the KKK. In fact, here is a link to a membership form and they don't even ask you to specify your race to join NAACP. Sheesh :blink:

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Seriously, where did you get that idea from?

Your argument might be valid if NAACP tried to subjugate other races in order to create a group of second class citizens for their personal gain. However they do not do that. They try to promote Blacks to equalize racial disparity. Same thing with the Negro Fund, they provide Black students with scholarships so that they can be in the same playing field as White or Asian kids. Nothing racist about that. If they start screaming about wanting separate classes and water fountains for Blacks, then there might be in some truth in what you are saying.

Go and subscribe membership to NAACP. I am sure that you wont get the same reception as a black guy trying to join the KKK. In fact, here is a link to a membership form and they don't even ask you to specify your race to join NAACP. Sheesh :blink:

There's a NCAAP, United Negro Fund, Black colleges, etc... but I don't see any "White college funds, any "White advancement organization(s), "White colleges", etc.. I mean can you have your cake and eat it too? Where does it end?

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"I want to take this opportunity to mention how thankful I am for an Obama re-election. The choice was clear. We cannot live in a country that treats homosexuals and women as second class citizens. Homosexuals deserve all of the rights and benefits of marriage that heterosexuals receive. Women deserve to be treated with respect and their salaries should not depend on their gender, but their quality of work. I am also thankful that the great, progressive state of California once again voted for the correct President. America is moving forward, and the direction is a positive one."

 

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