RUBbette Wives & Housework, si man

[ONA 133]

Odd, just about every man here married to a Ukrainian or Russian woman says the same thing, food left on the counter or stove...and she did not start doing it when we moved here.

Yeah, I don't know, maybe me, my family, my friends and all the people I know are some wrong kind of Russians and Ukrainians My husband actually can forget to put something to the fridge, but I make sure that nothing is left on the stove or on the counter before I go to bed.

She will not use pancake mix even...she makes blini from scratch. If she buys juice she bys the ones that say "Ingredients: Orange Juice" Or "Apples" or she makes her own "compote"

I won't use pancake mix, because I don't like the taste of those pancakes. I like very-very thin blinchiki and mixing the ingredients for them is the easiest part. I won't buy pizza dough, I make pelmeni and chebureki dough from scratch - sometimes I make extra and just freeze some, so I can save time on making it next time.

But I don't see anything bad in using some mixes - you can always check the ingredients and make sure that the mix you're buying only has 1-2 types of flour, baking soda, sugar, salt etc. - the same stuff I would use anyway.

Sergey worked at McDonald's not this summer, but last summer and he said "they are just crazy" about bacteria! Alla's thought was "McDonalds worries about bacteria? What about the horrible food?"

OK, I worked in different food places in the States, including McD - none of them was "crazy about bacteria". I walked in a pizza place in New Orleans and walked out in a minute, because the first thing I happened to see was a big huge rat. Maybe it is different in Vermont though, I don't know.

I have heard from many people, mostly Ukrainians, that Russians are not as clean as Ukrainians. I know that Alla is very clean and our kitchen is very clean and dare I "make a mess" I get the whole "you have to respect my work" lecture.

If you drive from Eastern Ukraine to Western Ukraine, you will notice that the streets become more and more clean as you approach the west of the country. Eastern Ukraine and Kiev is the same as a lot of places in Russia. Although, a lot of cities in Siberia are more clean than Moscow, for example.

The inside of the house has nothing to do with it, though - it depends on a person, living there. It doesn't depend even a little bit on whether this person is Russian or Ukrainian or American.

[eekee 182]

By national stereotype, though, for instance, Germans and Poles are notoriously fastidious.

[LvivLovers 39]

Alla does not allow plastic food containers! NO WAY! Glass only.

Ditto here for glass only these days. Especially once we had the baby. Organic everything too from day 1. She also is very picky about what she will eat in restaurants for similar reasons.

[visaveteran1 33]

I've been to St. Petersburg, Moscow (several times), Ryazan and parts of Siberia. I've also seen inside of the Russian hospital system. Shockingly filthy and antiquated. I saw medical staff touching blood stained bandages bare-handed! The equipment seemed to be from the 1950s...took me back to the medicine of my childhood. The public hospital bathroom was so bad, the doctor allowed me (an American) to use the "doctors bathroom." Well, it was nasty...so I'd hate to have endured the public one.

Downtown St. Petersburg was better but not up to US standards. The European look and feel of the city helps mask the typical hygiene issues, but it is still Russia.

All restaurant bathrooms I dared use in any city (pick one) did not have a toilet seat...just the ceramic rim to use. This was true of my first Russian girlfriend's flat...no seat. I asked about it and she implied they were expensive and hard to get. I was shocked but let it go...as I saw she was offended at my talking about it.

The water is not drinkable in any flat I've visited...always looks brown and dirty. I hate to even wash my hands in that water. Bottled water is a must.

I've also been to other countries of the FSU but never to Ukraine...so I can't speak about it except I know about the nuclear fallout issues. Hygiene-wise, I doubt there's a significant difference between Russia and Ukraine. I do know both countries have a serious issue with roaming packs of wild dogs. At night you need to be careful, even in Moscow. I've encountered them and it is harrowing just to hear them growling.

In my travels, the cleanest and most modern place was Latvia. Riga is charming, modern and clean...I could live there. Not a great place for Russians...the Latvians openly hate them.

Edited December 5, 2011 by visaveteran1

[ONA 133]

By national stereotype, though, for instance, Germans and Poles are notoriously fastidious.

I never heard it about Poles... I did hear it about Germans, but my friends, who have been or have lived in Germany say that it's not quite true...

I've been to St. Petersburg, Moscow (several times), Ryazan and parts of Siberia. I've also seen inside of the Russian hospital system. Shockingly filthy and antiquated. I saw medical staff touching blood stained bandages bare-handed! The equipment seemed to be from the 1950s...took me back to the medicine of my childhood. The public hospital bathroom was so bad, the doctor allowed me (an American) to use the "doctors bathroom." Well, it was nasty...so I'd hate to have endured the public one.

Downtown St. Petersburg was better but not up to US standards. The European look and feel of the city helps mask the typical hygiene issues, but it is still Russia.

All restaurant bathrooms I dared use in any city (pick one) did not have a toilet seat...just the ceramic rim to use. This was true of my first Russian girlfriend's flat...no seat. I asked about it and she implied they were expensive and hard to get. I was shocked but let it go...as I saw she was offended at my talking about it.

The water is not drinkable in any flat I've visited...always looks brown and dirty. I hate to even wash my hands in that water. Bottled water is a must.

I've also been to other countries of the FSU but never to Ukraine...so I can't speak about it except I know about the nuclear fallout issues. Hygiene-wise, I doubt there's a significant difference between Russia and Ukraine. I do know both countries have a serious issue with roaming packs of wild dogs. At night you need to be careful, even in Moscow. I've encountered them and it is harrowing just to hear them growling.

In my travels, the cleanest and most modern place was Latvia. Riga is charming, modern and clean...I could live there. Not a great place for Russians...the Latvians openly hate them.

What year was that? 1918? I'm shocked... Toilet seat was expensive? When?

Yes, drinking tap water is not the best idea, but it looks clean. It did in my apartment anyway.

Plus, I haven't seen people, who drink tap water here in Maryland - everybody buys bottled water. My husband won't even let me drink filtered tap water... I'm not even sure what he got filter for.

[TBoneTX 45,303]

Are our wives trained to RAISE the toilet seat (for us) after they do their business, huh man?

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

I never heard it about Poles... I did hear it about Germans, but my friends, who have been or have lived in Germany say that it's not quite true...

After the war and when the Poles took over what was once part of Germany, those houses the Germans lived in for years looked like sh*t in no time flat. Where the Germans would keep up their yards, exterior appearance of their house, have nice gardens with a painted fence, etc... the Poles pretty much crapped all over it.

Although Iv'e never had the chance to travel the Czech Republic, Iv'e heard they keep everything there nice and clean looking.

[slim 1,525]

I'm surprised all this toilet seat talk has come up without a single mention of the "toilet ring" little cloth thingy that ends up on the cold seat every fall. My wife gets ticked off at me because I drop bombs and it ends up getting all over her "ring" and I never wash it. "You supposed to clean when you make mess, blat." I remind her the toilet is for making messes. Repeat.

[ONA 133]

Are our wives trained to RAISE the toilet seat (for us) after they do their business, huh man?

Lol... No. Russian women try to train their men to put the toilet seat down :-)

slim, I never heard of "the toilet ring". It is funny though! Get a soft seat, it won't get cold :-)

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Yeah, I don't know, maybe me, my family, my friends and all the people I know are some wrong kind of Russians and Ukrainians My husband actually can forget to put something to the fridge, but I make sure that nothing is left on the stove or on the counter before I go to bed.

I won't use pancake mix, because I don't like the taste of those pancakes. I like very-very thin blinchiki and mixing the ingredients for them is the easiest part. I won't buy pizza dough, I make pelmeni and chebureki dough from scratch - sometimes I make extra and just freeze some, so I can save time on making it next time.

But I don't see anything bad in using some mixes - you can always check the ingredients and make sure that the mix you're buying only has 1-2 types of flour, baking soda, sugar, salt etc. - the same stuff I would use anyway.

OK, I worked in different food places in the States, including McD - none of them was "crazy about bacteria". I walked in a pizza place in New Orleans and walked out in a minute, because the first thing I happened to see was a big huge rat. Maybe it is different in Vermont though, I don't know.

If you drive from Eastern Ukraine to Western Ukraine, you will notice that the streets become more and more clean as you approach the west of the country. Eastern Ukraine and Kiev is the same as a lot of places in Russia. Although, a lot of cities in Siberia are more clean than Moscow, for example.

The inside of the house has nothing to do with it, though - it depends on a person, living there. It doesn't depend even a little bit on whether this person is Russian or Ukrainian or American.

New Orleans looks better in the dark on any day.

ONA you can always see if your husband will send you back for an adjustment at Dr. Finetush's laboratory in the Urals.

I thought Germany was a clean country, and it is, really. Then I went to Switzerland. OMG! That is bizarre!

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

After the war and when the Poles took over what was once part of Germany, those houses the Germans lived in for years looked like sh*t in no time flat. Where the Germans would keep up their yards, exterior appearance of their house, have nice gardens with a painted fence, etc... the Poles pretty much crapped all over it.

Although Iv'e never had the chance to travel the Czech Republic, Iv'e heard they keep everything there nice and clean looking.

Czech Republic is an amazing country, I love it. Prague is perhaps my favorite city in the world. I am very happy to say I met my wife there. Whenever i had a 3 day weekend I would be on a flight to Prague! This was before they were EU and it was cheap to stay there. Since they now use the Euro, who knows? I have not been there but once since I met Alla and they were still using Kroners (crowns)

The people are extremely friendly, in Prague nearly all speak English very fluently (good thing because I cannot make heads or tails of Czech)The city is very clean, very modern but they retained all the old buildings, castles etc. The infrastructure is all first class from what I have seen. Very tasty beer so I am told, but I do not drink beer.

I love their city slogan..."Prague! Sleep when you get home!"

And to top it off CSA airlines is among the best I have ever flown on! And the women are every bit as smoking hot as FSU women!

Edited December 6, 2011 by Gary and Alla

[Neonred 3,564]

I'm surprised all this toilet seat talk has come up without a single mention of the "toilet ring" little cloth thingy that ends up on the cold seat every fall. My wife gets ticked off at me because I drop bombs and it ends up getting all over her "ring" and I never wash it. "You supposed to clean when you make mess, blat." I remind her the toilet is for making messes. Repeat.

One of the reasons I moved to Florida. Never having to sit on a cold toilet seat.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Czech Republic is an amazing country, I love it. Prague is perhaps my favorite city in the world. I am very happy to say I met my wife there. Whenever i had a 3 day weekend I would be on a flight to Prague! This was before they were EU and it was cheap to stay there. Since they now use the Euro, who knows? I have not been there but once since I met Alla and they were still using Kroners (crowns)

The people are extremely friendly, in Prague nearly all speak English very fluently (good thing because I cannot make heads or tails of Czech)The city is very clean, very modern but they retained all the old buildings, castles etc. The infrastructure is all first class from what I have seen. Very tasty beer so I am told, but I do not drink beer.

I love their city slogan..."Prague! Sleep when you get home!"

And to top it off CSA airlines is among the best I have ever flown on! And the women are every bit as smoking hot as FSU women!

Prague is on my "list of things to do if I hit the lottery before I die" list. Iv'e read up on it many times and every time I think I'l get a chance to visit something comes up. Iv'e heard the chicks there are total hotties also like you stated. Of all the places in Europe I haven't bee to yet, Prague is at the top of my list with Corfu Island, Greece at a close second.

One of the reasons I moved to Florida. Never having to sit on a cold toilet seat.

That has to be the post of the month if not the year.

Edited December 6, 2011 by Why_Me

[Inna & Brian 11]

Count me as another fan of Prague. It is my favorite European city. And yes, the women are smoking and there is an energy to the city that is missing in Russia and Ukraine. So definitely check it out.

I have to dissent from all the other guys. My woman leaves nothing out. Everything goes into the refrigerator--plates, pots and pans (all with another plate on top ). Her mother stayed with us and her mother put everything away too.

[ONA 133]

New Orleans looks better in the dark on any day.

ONA you can always see if your husband will send you back for an adjustment at Dr. Finetush's laboratory in the Urals.

I thought Germany was a clean country, and it is, really. Then I went to Switzerland. OMG! That is bizarre!

My husband doesn't treat me as something he can "send" back and forth.

Germany is a clean country. It doesn't mean that all Germans keep their houses in an ideal order - that was the point.

I have to dissent from all the other guys. My woman leaves nothing out. Everything goes into the refrigerator--plates, pots and pans (all with another plate on top ). Her mother stayed with us and her mother put everything away too.

Thank you! At least I'm not the only "weird" Russian, who cares to put food to the fridge.