The Terioist at 1600 Penn. Ave

[Heracles 417]

I was honestly curious... more curious about what school he went to - his views are way out there. Campus life for him must have been quite interesting.

Australian universities are quite different to US colleges. That is we go there to learn and leave the partying for the weekend. Barely anyone live on campus..

You are so full of yourself. It's the disaster formerly known as Iraq that a majority of the people have issues with. That's where Bush and his gangsters fcuked up big time. I am not aware of anyone that opposed going after the perps of 9/11. They weren't in Iraq, though. And everyone knew it and everyone knows it. Only some will never see the light and keep living in denial about the illegal act of aggression Bush got this nation into needlessly and all that came from it thus far is is bound to come from it for decades ahead.

How have they ###### up? How many countries, apart from Australia, simply walked into a democracy without any conflict????????????

Who said is was solely about WMD or 9/11? I didn't realize the government had to come out and spell everything out.. Or are Rice and Bush, who are highly educated individuals, simple wrong and a bunch of idiots.

###### anyone can throw out a 2cent line. How about offering workable solutions???

Yeah.... A war for oil, even though not a single dollar has been made form the oil..

Like what? Illegally tapping phones and doing a superb job of increasing the terrorist threat against the US by messing in places we have and never had no business of being? I want some of the ####### you're on.

So are you saying the US government shouldn't tap phones to protect their nation??

Funny how other 1st world nations don't have a issue with this..

How did he manage to pass with all those liberal professors? Certainly not with his charm.

B)

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

###### anyone can throw out a 2cent line. How about offering workable solutions???

You've certainly thrown out your share - how about you offer some solutions, rather than simply relying on "ditto George" fence-sitting.

It should be easy for you - after all, you have your background in economics and engineering, which gives you

...more than enough knowledge to discuss issues about the progress of a nation. Probably more so than a politician who may have studied politics

BTW you still haven't given any examples of Hard-Line Liberals. That should be a doozy, no?

[Marc and Olga 0]

Who said is was solely about WMD or 9/11? I didn't realize the government had to come out and spell everything out.. Or are Rice and Bush, who are highly educated individuals, simple wrong and a bunch of idiots.

Um, Bush and Rumsfeld said that Iraq had WMDs AND Bush stated that Saddam was supporting AQ.

Neither of which were true at the time.

edit: Rumsfeld even said "we know where they are" about the WMDs.

Edited September 26, 2006 by Marc and Olga

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

You are so full of yourself. It's the disaster formerly known as Iraq that a majority of the people have issues with. That's where Bush and his gangsters fcuked up big time. I am not aware of anyone that opposed going after the perps of 9/11. They weren't in Iraq, though. And everyone knew it and everyone knows it. Only some will never see the light and keep living in denial about the illegal act of aggression Bush got this nation into needlessly and all that came from it thus far is is bound to come from it for decades ahead.

How have they ###### up? How many countries, apart from Australia, simply walked into a democracy without any conflict????????????

You really are full of yourself. More so than I thought. If you can't see how the Bushies fcuked up what used to be known as Iraq, then you quite obviously cannot be helped.

Who said is was solely about WMD or 9/11? I didn't realize the government had to come out and spell everything out.. Or are Rice and Bush, who are highly educated individuals, simple wrong and a bunch of idiots.

Who said that? Bush did. On March 19, 2003. Remember? That was the very day he started that illegal act of aggression against Iraq without plan and mandate. Okay, he had a plan. But they must have come up with it while smoking crack. All the greeting with flowers #######? That was the grand plan. Idiots!

"The people of the United States and our friends and allies will not live at the mercy of an outlaw regime that threatens the peace with weapons of mass murder. We will meet that threat now, with our Army, Air Force, Navy, Coast Guard and Marines, so that we do not have to meet it later with armies of fire fighters and police and doctors on the streets of our cities." ~ George W. Bush on March 19, 2003

That fcuking lying son of a #######!

Edited September 26, 2006 by ET-US2004

[Heracles 417]

BTW you still haven't given any examples of Hard-Line Liberals. That should be a doozy, no?

I don't waste my time doing google searches..

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

edit: Rumsfeld even said "we know where they are" about the WMDs.

When he said that I was reminded of one of the Star Trek movies, where Captain Kirk is asked which heading to set - and he points out into space and says "thataway"

BTW you still haven't given any examples of Hard-Line Liberals. That should be a doozy, no?

I don't waste my time doing google searches..

Then you should have no trouble coming up with some names based on your own knowledge of politics and current affairs.

What about Hillary Clinton? Is she a liberal? If so, how? On what issues?

[Heracles 417]

That fcuking lying son of a #######!

Where is the recent attack in the US?? Did he not take it to their doorstep rather than Americans???

What about Hillary Clinton? Is she a liberal? If so, how? On what issues?

Depends on your definition of liberal. In the UK and Australia Liberal has a whole different meaning..

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

"The people of the United States and our friends and allies will not live at the mercy of an outlaw regime that threatens the peace with weapons of mass murder. We will meet that threat now, with our Army, Air Force, Navy, Coast Guard and Marines, so that we do not have to meet it later with armies of fire fighters and police and doctors on the streets of our cities." ~ George W. Bush on March 19, 2003

The old bait and switch - which in this case relies heavily on racist assumptions about the middle-east. They rely of people not having much of an understanding of the middle east and assume that one dictator is much the same as another. Hence Bush can get away with not only linking Saddam's pseudo-socialist regime with islamic fundamentalism (an incompatible ideology), but also with comparing Bin Laden with Hitler AND Lenin

The fact that so many accept this unquestioningly they might as scratch the countries of middle east of the map and replace with "here be dragons". Most world maps for example, still feature the US as being physically larger than it actually is.

That fcuking lying son of a #######!

Where is the recent attack in the US?? Did he not take it to their doorstep rather than Americans???

What about Hillary Clinton? Is she a liberal? If so, how? On what issues?

Depends on your definition of liberal. In the UK and Australia Liberal has a whole different meaning..

Then what's your definition? Who do you class as a liberal in US politics? There must be someone - as you are quite insistent that most of the country's problems can be laid at the feet of "hard line / left liberals". Such a definitive view must be supported by names and faces....

Edited September 26, 2006 by erekose

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

That fcuking lying son of a #######!

Where is the recent attack in the US?? Did he not take it to their doorstep rather than Americans???

What recent attack? Where the WMD's? Where the Iraq AQ link? Those are the questions that need to be answered. And if you feel that America is so much better off today, take notice that the entire US intelligence community disagrees with you. But what the ** do they know? Infidel hails Bush and that makes it all good. pfft

And, by the way, Iraq wasn't their doorstep if you are referring to the terrorists until he made it such. Tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians paid with their lives and blood for it. Sure, sacrifice some Iraqis. They're brown so it doesn't matter, I suppose. I kind of wish he had made your back yard their doorstep and then I'd like to hear you defend this moron.

Edited September 26, 2006 by ET-US2004

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

That fcuking lying son of a #######!

Where is the recent attack in the US?? Did he not take it to their doorstep rather than Americans???

The other issue is BEFORE 9/11, the last foreign sponsored terrorist attack on US soil took place in 1993. So presumably, before 1993 and between 1993 and 2000 the security services were doing 'something right' or otherwise there was no threat. As the latter is completely ridiculous - what do you think is more likely.

In any case, its a bit early to claim victory considering (again) that there was an 8 year period (and countless years before) without any acts of islamic terrorism being carried out on the US mainland.

[Heracles 417]

And Iraq wasn't their doorstep if you are referring to the terroristsuntil he made it such. Tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians paid with their lives and blood for it. Sure, sacrifice some Iraqis. They're brown so it doesn't matter, I suppose. I kind of wish he had made your back yard their doorstep and then I'd like to hear you defend this moron.

I didn't realize the american soldiers are the ones deliberately bombing and beheading innocent women and children.. All this war did was reveal what islamic fundamentalists are really like. Yes Islamic fundamentalists like the ones responsible for millions of deaths in the African continent..

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

And Iraq wasn't their doorstep if you are referring to the terroristsuntil he made it such. Tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians paid with their lives and blood for it. Sure, sacrifice some Iraqis. They're brown so it doesn't matter, I suppose. I kind of wish he had made your back yard their doorstep and then I'd like to hear you defend this moron.

I didn't realize the american soldiers are the ones deliberately bombing and beheading innocent women and children.. All this war did was reveal what islamic fundamentalists are really like. Yes Islamic fundamentalists like the ones responsible for millions of deaths in the African continent..

The war (Bush started) has resulted in the deaths of tens of thousands of people. That's an inalienable fact. Who killed them is beside the point - very many people have died as a result of his foreign policies.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

And Iraq wasn't their doorstep if you are referring to the terroristsuntil he made it such. Tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians paid with their lives and blood for it. Sure, sacrifice some Iraqis. They're brown so it doesn't matter, I suppose. I kind of wish he had made your back yard their doorstep and then I'd like to hear you defend this moron.

I didn't realize the american soldiers are the ones deliberately bombing and beheading innocent women and children.. All this war did was reveal what islamic fundamentalists are really like. Yes Islamic fundamentalists like the ones responsible for millions of deaths in the African continent...

Tell me, how many Islamic Fundamentalists were bombing and beheading and otherwise killing and executing Iraqi men, women and children on the streets of Baghdad, Samarra, Basra and other Iraqi cities prior to March 19, 2003? Have a number? I give you one: 0.

The only reason the Islamic Fundies can play their ####### in Iraq today is because we illegally invaded the place and failed to secure it once the government was toppled. All these deaths are due to the illegal action that Bush pursued. That, in my book, is a major ** up. Again, I wish all that had taken place in your backyard. Then you might be able to see how wrong that that illegal invasion was and is on all levels.

[Heracles 417]

The other issue is BEFORE 9/11, the last foreign sponsored terrorist attack on US soil took place in 1993. So presumably, before 1993 and between 1993 and 2000 the security services were doing 'something right' or otherwise there was no threat. As the latter is completely ridiculous - what do you think is more likely.

In any case, its a bit early to claim victory considering (again) that there was an 8 year period (and countless years before) without any acts of islamic terrorism being carried out on the US mainland.

The fact is the 9/11 attacks were planned during that period and not immediately after George W Bush became president..

Like with most regime changes, it will take time.

By the way, if all of these anti-war nations are so humble and caring, why don't they offer their help in Iraq.. There is a lot they can do which does not involve using their military. Where is China, Russia and France??

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

By the way, if all of these anti-war nations are so humble and caring, why don't they offer their help in Iraq.. There is a lot they can do which does not involve using their military. Where is China, Russia and France??

You break it, you bought it. That's how it works. All those mentioned opposed the US military action. Now they got to bail us out? Put their citizens at risk for the ** up of the US administration? I don't think so.