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Should the law be amended to specifically prohibit adjusting status from a tourist visa and/or the VWP?

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  1. 1. Should the law be amended to specifically prohibit adjusting status from a tourist visa and/or the VWP?

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Boiler Grand Master

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but allowing people to AOS from a tourist visa is doing just that. Making it harder for people to come to the US to visit.

Which country has the largest numbers in the US out of status, never had one?

Which country is issued the largest number of tourist visa's? Clue more than India and China combined.

What percentage of that country's population in the US seek adjustment through marriage to a USC. Clue, under 1%.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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foobaz123
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And you know what those people who get married like that should do? Follow the same damned process the rest of us have to simply because our person isn't from a special country. Why should you and you

Noah Lot
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I agree....end all adjustments of status from B2...this would reduce spurious marriages, reduce illegal employment and also possibly give more people a fighting chance to get a tourist visa...the only

foobaz123
foobaz123

You know, maybe it wouldn't and maybe it would. But it sure is damned easy to say it's just sour grapes when you and/or your special person comes from a favored country and can just hop on a plane and

Boiler Grand Master

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L, R, TN there is a whole alphabet.

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newlyweds2010   208

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L, R, TN there is a whole alphabet.

Paradoxically, even K visas should be regulated differently. In the end, a couple can happily live together outside of the US, if it is true love. K visas should only be issued to those couples who have no intention to live in the US, those are the ones that show the strongest intent not to immigrate. All the others have already formed a latent immigration intent, which should be restricted.

Rebecca Jo Experienced

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Paradoxically, even K visas should be regulated differently. In the end, a couple can happily live together outside of the US, if it is true love. K visas should only be issued to those couples who have no intention to live in the US, those are the ones that show the strongest intent not to immigrate. All the others have already formed a latent immigration intent, which should be restricted.

I'm having trouble understanding why anyone would want any kind of immigrant/immigrant hybrid visa to the US if they have no intention of living in the US...............

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Because not every country is a VWP country. Because not every citizen from every non-VWP nation qualifies for a US tourist visa. Because not every country in the world makes it easy for someone from another country to marry their "locals".

You might be surprised to learn that a US citizen cannot just enter Great Britain and marry a British citizen.

That's not what I meant... I know there are countries that are not apart of the VWP and there is people who do not qualify for a U.S. tourist visa. I just meant there is a reason the K-1 visa is there, why are people allowed to skip that whole process?

And no, I am not surprised that a U.S. citizen cannot enter Great Britain and marry a British citizen. I wouldn't assume that, I don't know Great Britain's laws for issues like that.

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I have a sure-fire solution: stop family-based immigration completely. Close the border. If a U.S. citizen wants to get married to a foreigner, let them live abroad. Problem solved.

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

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Rebecca Jo Experienced

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That's not what I meant... I know there are countries that are not apart of the VWP and there is people who do not qualify for a U.S. tourist visa. I just meant there is a reason the K-1 visa is there, why are people allowed to skip that whole process?

And no, I am not surprised that a U.S. citizen cannot enter Great Britain and marry a British citizen. I wouldn't assume that, I don't know Great Britain's laws for issues like that.

Why are people allowed to skip the process? Other than the law says it OK, we've covered that. The citizens of VWP nations don't have a high rate of marital immigration fraud. In other words, they aren't so desperate to get out of their country that they use US citizens just to get away from it. And apparently there isn't a high rate of marital fraud from B1's or adjustment based on marriage would not be allowed either.

As far as my mention of Great Britain, I only brought that up because one might think since the US and the UK both allow free movement of their citizens for tourism, that they might allow the same rights for their citizens to marry. Not necessarily for a US citizen to stay in the UK, but at least for them to be able to marry, as a UK citizen can marry a US citizen over here.

I used to feel the same way many in this forum do. That it isn't "fair" for someone to skip the consular process. I've changed my mind over time. I read other immigration forums, and see what is happening in other countries regarding the sanctity of family life. So for now, I am glad my country lets husband and wife be together - no matter how they get there. In my mind, the more we restrict the movement of families, the closer we come to losing that precious human right of family.

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