Concealed weapons permits cross state lines.

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A sore afraid new world - to quote Duran Duran

Makes you wonder how people in Europe survive without a gun for self defense

I served 6 years in two police forces there - 10 days on and 1 day off for 6 years including detective work - and I never saw a gun or saw a gunshot victim

The US should work on getting it's society like that

Like this? 11,000 firearms offences a year in England and Wales

Or this? gangland hit in Hertfordshire.

Or this? spiralling problem with gun culture

Or this? Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade

Or this? Gun Control's Twisted Outcome

You can fantasize about about European "gun control" as much as you want, and even talk about it in whatever (uninformed) way you please- your freedom of speech is a protected 1st Amendment right. Your 2nd Amendment rights are just as important to me.

[Captain Oates 911]

No thanks! "The right to keep and bear arms" is not about self defense, it is a check against a tyrannical government.

You mean you are actually going to shoot US military and police if you get a tyrannical government ?

It wont be guys with dark suits out there - you will be shooting US Military

Would you do that ?

The military are worshiped here - usually by people who keep guns for the purpose of killing them if they don't like the government

Its a strange concept

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

No thanks! "The right to keep and bear arms" is not about self defense, it is a check against a tyrannical government.

Then bury your arms in your back yard until the government becomes so unbearable that you are willing to take arms against it like the rest of us sane patriots.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Then bury your arms in your back yard until the government becomes so unbearable that you are willing to take arms against it like the rest of us sane patriots.

Let the powder puffs who worship Nancy Pelosi and Jerry Brown bury their guns, some of us are American and enjoy our right to bear arms.

[Captain Oates 911]

Then bury your arms in your back yard until the government becomes so unbearable that you are willing to take arms against it like the rest of us sane patriots.

I wonder if they discuss what kind of ammunition would be best to penetrate the body armor of US servicemen when they do their militia thing in their huntin' shacks. I bet all they are thinking of is that half-black guy and his wife and kids.

It really hasn't been thought through.

We know why - because its just an excuse for us boys to play with guns and fantasize.

It will never be more than that, but its a good excuse for unfit people to use when they want to be unregulated and its really selfish because they enable the criminals to find easy guns

Luckily, most of em would run a mile if Charlton Heston's wig fell off and blew towards them

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

We know why - because its just an excuse for us boys to play with guns and fantasize.

Not to mention, it is fun to shoot at a burning Volkswagon engine late at night, and watch the magnesium shrapnel flying though the air. Of course, any reason to go into the middle of nowhere, and become irresponsible where you can't hurt anybody but yourself and the natural flora and fauna seems like fun to me, well at least it did until a couple of decades ago when it starting getting too painful to go to work Monday morning.

[Captain Oates 911]

Not to mention, it is fun to shoot at a burning Volkswagon engine late at night, and watch the magnesium shrapnel flying though the air. Of course, any reason to go into the middle of nowhere, and become irresponsible where you can't hurt anybody but yourself and the natural flora and fauna seems like fun to me, well at least it did until a couple of decades ago when it starting getting too painful to go to work Monday morning.

That sound more like the beer than the shrapnel

I used to go to work straight from the disco but those days are over

Trouble with the militia thing is that the FBI are liable to set a dog on you, taze you, mace you, confiscate your guns, and throw you naked in a suicide cell with a Penn State coach.

Posting on vj is a much better emotional release when you want to kill everyone for no good reason, but watch out for Charles coz he is watching us

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

That sound more like the beer than the shrapnel

The booze and the LSD make the shrapnel so much more exciting.

[Ban Hammer 13,691]

Posting on vj is a much better emotional release when you want to kill everyone for no good reason, but watch out for Charles coz he is watching us

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

They say Charlie Manson had the best LSD, and good tunes, but he was crazy. That was before my time. My time has come and passed. The desert is still there.

[Captain Oates 911]

They say Charlie Manson had the best LSD, and good tunes, but he was crazy. That was before my time. My time has come and passed. The desert is still there.

I used to think Charles Manson was crazy until I saw Michelle Barkmad and Herman the Tickler and Newt the teacher fiddler and Perry the giggle - and then, all thing being comparative, I realized that he could be a front runner if they let him out !

Charles Manson wants to electrocute immigrants and let old people die with no social security or medicare and fire the whole police force and he has never been a washington insider or a mormon and he wears a cross

- if that isn't a complete package of what the conservative party is looking for in 2012 then what is ?

Edited November 17, 2011 by Ashud Cocoa

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I used to think Charles Manson was crazy until I saw Michelle Barkmad and Herman the Tickler and Newt the teacher fiddler and Perry the giggle - and then, all thing being comparative, I realized that he could be a front runner if they let him out !

Charles Manson wants to electrocute immigrants and let old people die with no social security or medicare and fire the whole police force and he has never been a washington insider or a mormon and he wears a cross

- if that isn't a complete package of what the conservative party is looking for in 2012 then what is ?

Yes, but would the Bible thumpers go for the sport sex and proliferate drug use while brutally killing Hollywood liberals?

[Captain Oates 911]

Yes, but would the Bible thumpers go for the sport sex and proliferate drug use while brutally killing Hollywood liberals?

Well as long as it is in private, and in the right orientation with no Penn State stuff, sport sex is up to the individual church goer and often produces (by accident) new church members to tithe.

Drugs are ok if they are taken with the stated intention of preventing a miscarriage which is an abortion as we all know

Brutally killing Hollywood liberals ? well as long as the correct vermin hunting license was obtained, then it's a public service, and there is a bounty on their scalps of $100 each ($200 for those of breeding age) in South Carolina

Yes Charles Manson is the conservative man to lead us back to the future and he would look good in a 3 corner hat with a cutlass - he would, wouldn't he ?

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Good law. If it is the original one it would require states to accept Vermont drivers Licenses as concealed permits.

For those that have said that gun laws should be like laws for vehicles and drivers licences...YES, this is it!

Unless it gets attached to some other bill, Obama is not likely to sign it, this bill has been around for few sessions of congress.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Yay for Alaska. We don't need no stinkin government paper work to pack a loaded handgun.

The original bill would require other states to recognize the drivers licenses of states with "constituional carry" as concealed carry permits. This would now include Alaska, Arzona and Wyoming in addition to Vermont