Concealed weapons permits cross state lines.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

:rofl:!

Will that running be with or without the wife?

There are plenty of replacements in the RP.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

We have a lot of Brown Bear running around here during the summer months. That and fishing trips here are always a risk.

Meet the most powerful hand gun in the world...courtesy of Smith & Wesson. Unlike an auto, you can drop these in the lake and they still fire.

[Ban Hammer 13,503]

We have a lot of Brown Bear running around here during the summer months. That and fishing trips here are always a risk.

Meet the most powerful hand gun in the world...courtesy of Smith & Wesson. Unlike an auto, you can drop these in the lake and they still fire.

this one?

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

this one?

I like it!

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

[xebec 195]

Carrying a gun increases risk of getting shot and killed

A quote from the study tells us all we need to know:

However, compared with control participants, shooting case participants were significantly more often Hispanic, more frequently working in high-risk occupations1,2, less educated, and had a greater frequency of prior arrest. At the time of shooting, case participants were also significantly more often involved with alcohol and drugs, outdoors, and closer to areas where more Blacks, Hispanics, and unemployed individuals resided. Case participants were also more likely to be located in areas with less income and more illicit drug trafficking (Table 1).

Citation

In other words, this isn't a study about legal concelaed carry, but rather about anyone carrying in Philadelphia. Given the paragraph above, it's clear that the study found a higher incedent of gunfights in higher crime areas of a high crime environment, perpetrated by a segment of the population more likely to be involved in criminal activity, making this study irrelevant to this discussion.

Edited November 16, 2011 by xebec

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Looks like ol Crusty was trying to sneak one by us....BAD Crusty!

[kytwell 179]

this one?

I've always been partial to archers

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

I've always been partial to archers

Are those real or did she have a ####### job?

[xebec 195]

I've always been partial to archers

Well.....uh.....I'm partial to archery now too

[Leatherneck 693]

A quote from the study tells us all we need to know:

Citation

In other words, this isn't a study about legal concelaed carry, but rather about anyone carrying in Philadelphia. Given the paragraph above, it's clear that the study found a higher incedent of gunfights in higher crime areas of a high crime environment, perpetrated by a segment of the population more likely to be involved in criminal activity, making this study irrelevant to this discussion.

Well said!

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Looks like ol Crusty was trying to sneak one by us....BAD Crusty!

Participant Identification and Matching

Gunshot assault cases caused by powder charge firearms were identified as they occurred, from October 15, 2003, to April 16, 2006. The final 6 months of this period were limited to only fatal cases. We excluded self-inflicted, unintentional, and police-related shootings (an officer shooting someone or being shot), and gun injuries of undetermined intent. We excluded individuals younger than 21 years because it was not legal for them to possess a firearm in Philadelphia and, as such, the relationship we sought to investigate was functionally different enough to prompt separate study of this age group. We excluded individuals who were not residents of Philadelphia as they were outside our target population and individuals not described as Black or White as they were involved in a very small percentage of shootings (< 2%). Even after these exclusions, the study only needed a subset of the remaining shootings to test its hypotheses. A random number was thus assigned to these remaining shootings, as they presented, to enroll a representative one third of them.

Data coordinators at the Philadelphia Police Department identified and enrolled new shooting case participants as they occurred by reviewing an electronic incident tracking system and interviewing police officers, detectives, and medical examiners. Basic data for eligible case participants were wirelessly sent to the University of Pennsylvania where study leaders forwarded them to a survey research firm for recruitment of a matched control participant. More detailed information for each enrolled case was later filled in with additional data from state and local police, medical examiner, emergency medical services, and hospital data sources.15

We pair-matched case participants to control participants on the date and time (within 30-minute intervals; i.e., 10:30 pm, 11:00 pm) of each shooting. This was done because the factors we planned to analyze, including gun possession, were often short-lived making the time of the shooting most etiologically relevant.16 This also helped to control for a great many unmeasurable confounders related to time. We also matched our control participants to case participants on the basis of age group (aged 21–24 years, 25–39 years, 40–64 years, and 65 years and older), gender, and race (Black or White). We pair-matched on these variables to avoid extremely sparse data in certain subgroups given a priori knowledge that exceedingly different age, race, and gender distributions existed among assaultive shootings relative to the general population of Philadelphia.17 We did not pair-match case participants and control participants on location. On the basis of early power calculations, we matched 1 control participant to each shooting case.

Control participants were in Philadelphia at the time their matched case was shot. The median number of days between the time a shooting occurred and the time a control participant interview was completed was 2 days. More than three quarters of all control participant interviews were completed within 4 days of their matched shooting. Control participants were interviewed as rapidly as possible to minimize recall bias.

Control participants were sampled from all of Philadelphia via random-digit dialing.10,18 In the interest of time, multiple interviewers may have simultaneously begun and then completed control participant interviews. This resulted in 7 case participants that had more than 1 control participant. These few additional control participants were retained in final analyses. We also tested for the possibility of unequal sampling by using an inverse probability of selection weight defined as the number of eligible control participants divided by the number of phone lines in a household. These weighted models generated only very small differences (< 5%) in our results.

We took several steps to maximize participation and avoid selection biases caused by nonresponse.15,10,19–21 According to standard formulae, the cooperation rate for our control participant survey was calculated to be 74.4% and the response rate 56.0%.22 These rates exceeded those of other surveys conducted at about the same time23 and were high enough to produce a reasonably representative sample of our target population.24,25 Our control participants were statistically similar to the general population of Philadelphia in terms of marital status, retirement, education, general health status, and smoking status within the age, gender, and race categories specified earlier.26 Our control participants were, however, significantly more unemployed than the general population.

[Leatherneck 693]

There are plenty of replacements in the RP.

:rofl:

Wait, let me pick myself up from the floor! Does your wife have idea about your self-defense plans plans to plans to run?

[Leatherneck 693]

Are those real or did she have a ####### job?

Kip, it doesn't really matter, they'll get the job done!

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

:rofl:

Wait, let me pick myself up from the floor! Does your wife have idea about your self-defense plans plans to plans to run?

I think Crusty might have plans on getting himself a RUB wife in the near future. I can hear it now; "I swear officer, she was right behind me when I took off for help...I don't know how they could have gotten her."

Edited November 16, 2011 by Why_Me