Concealed weapons permits cross state lines.

[Leatherneck 693]

House to vote on bill allowing those with concealed weapons permits to cross state lines.

By Associated Press, Updated: Wednesday, November 16, 3:12 AM

WASHINGTON — The House takes up its first pro-gun bill of the year with a measure giving people with concealed weapon permits in one state the right to carry a concealed weapon in other states.

The National Rifle Association-backed bill would apply to 49 states that issue some sort of concealed carry permit. Illinois and the District of Columbia prohibit the concealed carrying of weapons.

Supporters said it would end the confusion in which some states recognize permits from other states while others do not, or set conditions. Opponents argued that states that set tough standards for getting a permit would have to recognize permits from states that require less training or put fewer restrictions on who is eligible for a concealed weapon permit.

The bill, said House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith, R-Texas, “simply allows Americans who travel to take their Second Amendment rights with them.”

The legislation has some 245 sponsors in the House and is expected to pass easily when it comes up for a vote Wednesday. The outcome is less certain in the Democratic-controlled Senate. There currently is no parallel Senate bill, although two years ago Republicans nearly succeeded in attaching similar legislation to a larger spending bill.

There hasn’t been much legislative action on firearms issues this year, although a spending bill the House is expected to vote on this week has provisions barring the Justice Department from consolidating firearms sales records or maintaining information on people who have passed firearms background checks.

A Senate Judiciary Committee panel, meanwhile, held a hearing Tuesday at which Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., pressed the Justice Department to step up enforcement of requirements that states turn over records to a federal background check system. Among the witnesses was a victim of the Tucson, Ariz., shooting that severely wounded Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.

Schumer took the occasion to criticize the House’s concealed weapons bill.

“It seems perverse that the first gun-related measure that this Congress plans to take up since the Tucson shooting is one that seeks to dismantle states’ ability to protect their own citizens,” Schumer said. “It’s like a bad dream.”

Another gun-control advocate from New York, Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, and Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J., last week wrote President Barack Obama urging him to issue a veto threat against the bill. Passing the bill “would jeopardize public safety and would be an insult to states like New Jersey and New York that purposefully have strong gun ownership laws,” they wrote.

The administration has not yet taken an official position on the bill.

The chief sponsors of the measure, Rep. Cliff Stearns, R-Fla., and Rep. Heath Shuler, D-N.C., said it would not create a federal licensing system but merely require states to honor one another’s carry permits, just as states recognize driver’s licenses from other states.

People who are unable to get a permit in their home state would not be able to carry a concealed weapon in their home state by getting a permit in another state.

Thirty-five states have “shall issue” permit laws that usually require states to issue permits to those who meet legal requirements. Ten others have “may issue” or discretionary permit laws. Vermont, Arizona, Alaska and Wyoming do not require a permit to carry a concealed weapon.

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[Leatherneck 693]

“It seems perverse that the first gun-related measure that this Congress plans to take up since the Tucson shooting is one that seeks to dismantle states’ ability to protect their own citizens,” Schumer said. “It’s like a bad dream.”

Chucky Schumer and his twisted logic.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

House to vote on bill allowing those with concealed weapons permits to cross state lines.

By Associated Press, Updated: Wednesday, November 16, 3:12 AM

WASHINGTON — The House takes up its first pro-gun bill of the year with a measure giving people with concealed weapon permits in one state the right to carry a concealed weapon in other states.

Thirty-five states have “shall issue” permit laws that usually require states to issue permits to those who meet legal requirements. Ten others have “may issue” or discretionary permit laws. Vermont, Arizona, Alaska and Wyoming do not require a permit to carry a concealed weapon.

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Yay for Alaska. We don't need no stinkin government paper work to pack a loaded handgun.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Stupid idea. Nobody needs to carry a concealed weapon.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Stupid idea. Nobody needs to carry a concealed weapon.

Yep, because car jackings, rape, assaults, abductions, robbery and murder is all a giant myth made up by the media.

Edited November 16, 2011 by Why_Me

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Stupid idea. Nobody needs to carry a concealed weapon.

Yep, because car jackings, rape, assaults, abductions, robbery and murder is all a giant myth made up by the media.

How is a concealed weapon going to prevent those? It's concealed, right? The assailant has no indication that you are armed, so you are just as likely to be attacked as the person next you. If you try to pull the weapon and use it while you are shaking and peeing at the same time, chances are you will be killed with your own weapon.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Carrying a gun increases risk of getting shot and killed

[Leatherneck 693]

How is a concealed weapon going to prevent those? It's concealed, right? The assailant has no indication that you are armed, so you are just as likely to be attacked as the person next you. If you try to pull the weapon and use it while you are shaking and peeing at the same time, chances are you will be killed with your own weapon.

Maybe a concealed weapon is a "stupid idea" to you, but there are people alive today because they had a concealed weapon.

I have my own personal experience of having to point my weapon center mass of a thug that was so confident he was going to take my money.

What is security to some, might be a "stupid idea" to those that are comfortable with putting their safety in the hands of the police.

It could also be a "stupid idea" not to be armed considering today's violent society. But that is your choice.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

How is a concealed weapon going to prevent those? It's concealed, right? The assailant has no indication that you are armed, so you are just as likely to be attacked as the person next you. If you try to pull the weapon and use it while you are shaking and peeing at the same time, chances are you will be killed with your own weapon.

I'm satisfied with my American right to pack a loaded concealed weapon here in Alaska. If any of those illegals ever try to jack my truck, they can meet "Mr S&W 500 Hog Leg/Howitzer" courtesy of Mr. Kip.

[Leatherneck 693]

Carrying a gun increases risk of getting shot and killed

Oh yeah... sell that to this woman and others that have successfully used a firearm to prevent a crime.

"Akron Woman Scares Off Sex Offender with Gun"

Woman's warning shot scares away rapist.

Shirley Bennett, of Akron, says she never wanted a gun in her house when her children were growing up. Three years ago, however, she decided to get a concealed carry permit after someone attempted to break into her apartment.

It is a decision she believes paid off on Thursday.

While stopping at a Wilbeth Road bank in Akron to make a deposit, Bennett says she was approached in the parking lot by a man who, at first, asked for directions.

"By the time I was ready to get in my car, he was behind me and started hitting me, and pushed me into my car, and I tried to fight him off the best I could, but I knew he was overpowering me," said Bennett, whose .38 special was in the center console.

"I kind of got my right hand behind me, and inside the center console, and got my hand on my gun. I pointed it at the floor originally, he had a hold of my arm, I said, 'I have a gun. Don't make me use it,' " Bennett told Fox 8 News.

Bennett says the man continued forcing himself in the car. She told police that, during the attack, he kept making sexually suggestive comments to her.

As the struggle continued, Bennett says she was not able to straighten out her arm to point the gun at her attacker.

"He was trying to get himself in the car, and the passenger door was open, and I just reached out the passenger door and shot straight up in the air," she said.

The shot chased the man away. . . . .

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Maybe a concealed weapon is a "stupid idea" to you, but there are people alive today because they had a concealed weapon.

I have my own personal experience of having to point my weapon center mass of a thug that was so confident he was going to take my money.

What is security to some, might be a "stupid idea" to those that are comfortable with putting their safety in the hands of the police.

It could also be a "stupid idea" not to be armed considering today's violent society. But that is your choice.

Crusty lives near Frisco.

[Leatherneck 693]

Crusty lives near Frisco.

Ok, that says it all!

However, northern Cal is a nice area.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Ok, that says it all!

However, northern Cal is a nice area.

Beautiful area but it's heavily populated by the likes of people that voted for the cretins in my forums signature on here. It's like they get bored and try to figure out ways to screw things up in order to pass their time. If they can't take peoples rights away while helping the illegal agenda they don't count it time well spent.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Oh yeah... sell that to this woman and others that have successfully used a firearm to prevent a crime.

Branas's study found that people who carried guns were 4.5 times as likely to be shot and 4.2 times as likely to get killed compared with unarmed citizens. When the team looked at shootings in which victims had a chance to defend themselves, their odds of getting shot were even higher.

Beautiful area but it's heavily populated by the likes of people that voted for the cretins in my forums signature on here. It's like they get bored and try to figure out ways to screw things up in order to pass their time. If they can't take peoples rights away while helping the illegal agenda they don't count it time well spent.

I have signatures disabled. Only nOObs enable signatures.

I look out my window and I see green things and blue skies. I don't see any snow.

I don't see any hippies, and I am not hearing any drums.

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I'm satisfied with my American right to pack a loaded concealed weapon here in Alaska. If any of those illegals ever try to jack my truck, they can meet "Mr S&W 500 Hog Leg/Howitzer" courtesy of Mr. Kip.

i still prefer the .44 mag s&w 629

I don't see any hippies, and I am not hearing any drums.

i'll spread the word you're in the 1%