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I know that derails the thread a bit but kinda explains my stance on DNA testing being standard before any father is nominated, and that when paternity is disproved any past child support payments must be refunded by the mother (she knew there was a "chance" and she screwed the guy over).

For ROC, as someone else said, it's not really as bad as you would think. I think sending JUST the birth certificate wouldn't get you approved (I can't say for sure because I don't think anyone has done only that) but it doesn't hurt. Oh, and there have been cases of people having kids solely to prove their relationship, which is why I'm so strongly against it being used as a factor to judge relationship.

Thanks for the post. Informative read! And no, as I said previously, I am really not worried about my ROC. It just opened up a few rather academic questions which got me thinking.

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IMO I do think having a child together tops the list. I know a couple who walked into their interview in Texas with a joint lease (very current), a few pieces of junk mail, some photos and a 4 month old and the IO literally said, "you have a baby together so I won't ask you any questions... Unless you want me to (smile)."

I think that people engaging in fraud (where the USC gets paid or is just 'helping out') WILL ABSOLUTELY NOT PRODUCE A CHILD to gain benefits. That just does not make sense and most people know that. They may do EVERYTHING ELSE but not commit themselves to the person they are using for a lifetime.....

Having a child at the very least shows that there is an intimate relationship. Your lease or tax returns doesn't prove that....

At any rate, any one peice of evidence can be fabricate, I just think that a baby (life altering) is a little more extreme than just going to the trouble of opening bank accounts....

No one can say for sure what a particular IO values the most, but I think it would be hard for me to look at a couple with 2.5 kids together and say, 'well that only proves you had sex a few times.... :huh: '

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I think that people engaging in fraud (where the USC gets paid or is just 'helping out') WILL ABSOLUTELY NOT PRODUCE A CHILD to gain benefits. That just does not make sense and most people know that. They may do EVERYTHING ELSE but not commit themselves to the person they are using for a lifetime.....

Actually it's happened before. The one I remember the most the woman had twins with her USC husband, then left after the GC. I believe he found evidence (emails or something) that explained the children only happened because she thought they were needed for immigration.

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I totally agree. It's just common sense. IO are humans too, of course seeing a couple with children affects something.

I don't care if one or two psychos did do it to evade immigration law... the proportion of crazy people who would do it for immigration only must be super small and they probably put a strong case together anyway if they want it so desperately. and btw: leases, joint accounts, tax returns also don't prove nothing. so what? no any single document proves anything really... it's a combo of what is submitted. and USCIS had to find acceptable documents that, although don't really prove anything, at least covers their back somehow... the only way they could know for a fact a couple is legit is following them 24x7... (virtually impossible)...

so - denying children prove something is in fact just useless discussion...

In my opinion, having children is probably an additional good piece of evidence.

IMO I do think having a child together tops the list. I know a couple who walked into their interview in Texas with a joint lease (very current), a few pieces of junk mail, some photos and a 4 month old and the IO literally said, "you have a baby together so I won't ask you any questions... Unless you want me to (smile)."

I think that people engaging in fraud (where the USC gets paid or is just 'helping out') WILL ABSOLUTELY NOT PRODUCE A CHILD to gain benefits. That just does not make sense and most people know that. They may do EVERYTHING ELSE but not commit themselves to the person they are using for a lifetime.....

Having a child at the very least shows that there is an intimate relationship. Your lease or tax returns doesn't prove that....

At any rate, any one peice of evidence can be fabricate, I just think that a baby (life altering) is a little more extreme than just going to the trouble of opening bank accounts....

No one can say for sure what a particular IO values the most, but I think it would be hard for me to look at a couple with 2.5 kids together and say, 'well that only proves you had sex a few times.... :huh: '

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By the time i had gotten around to file my ROC the marriage had produced two children. I had sent in their Birth Certificates and didn't received an RFE. I also must say that i entered on a K-1 visa and has never been to an interview, not for AOS nor ROC. Guess my first interview will be for my citizenship.

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05/01/07: petition received at CSC

05/01/07: NOA1 Date.....no hard copy

08/06/07: Fiance called USCIS for info aboout NOA1 hard copy

08/07/07: Touch

08/08/07: Touch

08/09/07: Touch

08/10/07: Touch

08/11/07: NOA1 hard copy

08/21/07: Touch due to phone call was told that our case has been assigned

08/27/07: Touch

08/28/07: APPROVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ( Received e-mail that our case has been approved on the 27th)

09/18/07: Petition left CSC

09/24/07: NVC received Petition

09/26/07: Petition left NVC

10/02/07: Kingston Embassy received Petition

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10/09/07: Packet 3 received

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