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You could make up an alternative user name and talk to him. Tell him that you met in a chatroom a while ago but haven't seen him online in awhile.

Holy ####### that was just evil...don't do that! Thank God I don't chat online anymore.

hahaha...see how quickly the mind can work.

To be honest though, I just don't have the energy, and at my new age of 41, I'd probably forget the new screenname and password or I'd write him normal on it and get caught. :lol:

12/28/06 - got married :)

02/05/07 - I-130 NOA1

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04/09/07 - I-130 and I-129F approval email sent!!!!

04/26/07 - Packet 3 received

06/16/07 - Medical Examination

06/26/07 - Packet 3 SUBMITTED FINALLY!!!!

07/07/07 - Received pkt 4

07/22/07 - interview consular never bothered to show up for work.

07/29/07 - interview.

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Oh my! If anyone gets to the point where they need to do this, then you need to take a serious look at your relationship. Sounds like something a teenager would do!

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I am late getting in on this.

While the Prophet did not marry Khadija for a greencard, he also didn't marry her because he was "in love" with her.

Oh I hope I am doing the quote thing right. In Bosco's opinion, why did he marry her then? And what is this referenced from?

It isn't a matter of my opinion. If you read anything about the Prophet's marriage to Khadija, he wasn't "in love" when their marriage was entered into. Khadija was considered to be a beautiful, noble, wealthy woman of high status. Khadija didn't care about a man being rich, she cared about his character. She had an intermediary approach the Prophet to see if he would be interested in marrying.

Even aside from Khadija, the Prophet's marriages were not entered into because he was "in love". Some were to strengthen ties he had (as in the case of the daughters of Abu Bakr and Umar) as well as others for more political reasons (Juwayriyah is one example).

The Prophet is reported to have said, "A woman may be married for four reasons: for her property, her status, her beauty, and her religion; so try to get one who is religious, may you be blessed."

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He has a friend that has a wife in Canada. They talk in the evenings, and he tells her he is tired, so he pretents to be asleep and pauses the cam, then he takes off and goes out with his friends and does God knows what!

There are so many things seriously wrong with this statement that I don't even know where to begin. If she is at the point that she has to watch him sleep in the webcam and he needs to pause it in order to go out with his friends, then there are serious problems. :yes:

My fiance goes out with his friends all the time. I trust 100%, if I didn't trust him I would have never agreed to marry him. If you have no trust in a relationship, then you have nothing. Trust is a foundation and everything gets built from there.

You could make up an alternative user name and talk to him. Tell him that you met in a chatroom a while ago but haven't seen him online in awhile.

Holy ####### that was just evil...don't do that! Thank God I don't chat online anymore.

Oh my! If anyone gets to the point where they need to do this, then you need to take a serious look at your relationship. Sounds like something a teenager would do!

You are so right JP.

When I was younger I was so trusting, but I got burned. Now a man has to earn my trust, as sad as that sounds. I have always been honest with my husband, so I told him all I had done. He was shocked, but understood. He said he has seen how ruthless the men there can be. All in all it worked out fine for us. Neither one of us has a trust issue, and the games are stopped. It served its purpose.

'Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Chardonnay in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO, What a Ride'

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He has a friend that has a wife in Canada. They talk in the evenings, and he tells her he is tired, so he pretents to be asleep and pauses the cam, then he takes off and goes out with his friends and does God knows what!

There are so many things seriously wrong with this statement that I don't even know where to begin. If she is at the point that she has to watch him sleep in the webcam and he needs to pause it in order to go out with his friends, then there are serious problems. :yes:

My fiance goes out with his friends all the time. I trust 100%, if I didn't trust him I would have never agreed to marry him. If you have no trust in a relationship, then you have nothing. Trust is a foundation and everything gets built from there.

You could make up an alternative user name and talk to him. Tell him that you met in a chatroom a while ago but haven't seen him online in awhile.

Holy ####### that was just evil...don't do that! Thank God I don't chat online anymore.

Oh my! If anyone gets to the point where they need to do this, then you need to take a serious look at your relationship. Sounds like something a teenager would do!

You are so right JP.

When I was younger I was so trusting, but I got burned. Now a man has to earn my trust, as sad as that sounds. I have always been honest with my husband, so I told him all I had done. He was shocked, but understood. He said he has seen how ruthless the men there can be. All in all it worked out fine for us. Neither one of us has a trust issue, and the games are stopped. It served its purpose.

I have also been burned, but I don't let that affect my relationship. I don't want my fiance to live in the shadow of my ex. I was also very honest with my fiance mostly because it started off as a friendship and him being half way around the world I never thought it would develop into anything so I let my guard down and told him everything bcz I figured I was never going to see him anyway. He was the same way, he told me everything about his life, the ups and downs. It was after that point that we realized that we had interest in each other romantically.

Jealousy is an ugly monster and I don't like to see it around me. Jealousy in mild forms can be cute, but if it gets out of hand it can destroy everything in its path. I also don't believe in "earning trust". I just don't see how a person can earn trust, what can they do earn trust. I think that you just have to put yourself out there and be willing to trust again. You may get hurt, but thats one of the risks of falling in love. I trusted my fiance from day one because I had no reason not to. The mind is like a prison, if you think about things too much you can convince yourself of anything and go crazy. Been there, done that and I don't want to do it again.

~jordanian_princess~

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I am late getting in on this.

While the Prophet did not marry Khadija for a greencard, he also didn't marry her because he was "in love" with her.

Oh I hope I am doing the quote thing right. In Bosco's opinion, why did he marry her then? And what is this referenced from?

It isn't a matter of my opinion. If you read anything about the Prophet's marriage to Khadija, he wasn't "in love" when their marriage was entered into. Khadija was considered to be a beautiful, noble, wealthy woman of high status. Khadija didn't care about a man being rich, she cared about his character. She had an intermediary approach the Prophet to see if he would be interested in marrying.

Even aside from Khadija, the Prophet's marriages were not entered into because he was "in love". Some were to strengthen ties he had (as in the case of the daughters of Abu Bakr and Umar) as well as others for more political reasons (Juwayriyah is one example).

The Prophet is reported to have said, "A woman may be married for four reasons: for her property, her status, her beauty, and her religion; so try to get one who is religious, may you be blessed."

This tells me the situation when he got married, but it doesn't say he wasn't in love with her. Really, only Allah knows what was in his heart. But I have heard that he did consider her his great love, to the point that he never married another until after her death. Even after her death his second wife was extremely jealous of his memory of love for her.

This is the stories I have hear and read, does that sound accurate?

I was a little confused on your four reasons a woman may be married. For her property, her status, her beauty, and her religion. Are you saying that these are four reason a man may choose a woman to marry?

Of course deciding to get married in a Muslim country is vastly different than here in the US. But one thing I have learned about an Arabic man. When he sees the woman he wants to marry, he loves her. Not in the way that he will once he has been married for several years, but loves her nonetheless.

'Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Chardonnay in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO, What a Ride'

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I am late getting in on this.

While the Prophet did not marry Khadija for a greencard, he also didn't marry her because he was "in love" with her.

Oh I hope I am doing the quote thing right. In Bosco's opinion, why did he marry her then? And what is this referenced from?

It isn't a matter of my opinion. If you read anything about the Prophet's marriage to Khadija, he wasn't "in love" when their marriage was entered into. Khadija was considered to be a beautiful, noble, wealthy woman of high status. Khadija didn't care about a man being rich, she cared about his character. She had an intermediary approach the Prophet to see if he would be interested in marrying.

Even aside from Khadija, the Prophet's marriages were not entered into because he was "in love". Some were to strengthen ties he had (as in the case of the daughters of Abu Bakr and Umar) as well as others for more political reasons (Juwayriyah is one example).

The Prophet is reported to have said, "A woman may be married for four reasons: for her property, her status, her beauty, and her religion; so try to get one who is religious, may you be blessed."

This tells me the situation when he got married, but it doesn't say he wasn't in love with her. Really, only Allah knows what was in his heart. But I have heard that he did consider her his great love, to the point that he never married another until after her death. Even after her death his second wife was extremely jealous of his memory of love for her.

This is the stories I have hear and read, does that sound accurate?

I was a little confused on your four reasons a woman may be married. For her property, her status, her beauty, and her religion. Are you saying that these are four reason a man may choose a woman to marry?

Of course deciding to get married in a Muslim country is vastly different than here in the US. But one thing I have learned about an Arabic man. When he sees the woman he wants to marry, he loves her. Not in the way that he will once he has been married for several years, but loves her nonetheless.

All I can say is regardles of the prophet's reasons for marriage or his intentions afterward, I don't think anyone here should use that as a defense or proof of the validity of their relationship. When dealing with the embassy you need cold hard facts. They have approved many marriages for people with age differences but those people had tons of evidence and thats what it boils down to.

~jordanian_princess~

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"All I can say is regardles of the prophet's reasons for marriage or his intentions afterward, I don't think anyone here should use that as a defense or proof of the validity of their relationship. When dealing with the embassy you need cold hard facts. They have approved many marriages for people with age differences but those people had tons of evidence and thats what it boils down to."'

And make sure they see the evidence! Even if they don't ask for it or say no still make sure they see it otherwise a denial is a big possibility. Sorry I just had to throw that in there.

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They are not "my reasons" for why a man may choose to marry. It is a saying of the Prophet.

The concept of "love" marriage is really not an Islamic concept. Love is traditionally something that comes after marriage, not before. This is part due to the fact that men and women are not expected to mix in a way that would create one falling in love with the other.

Surely only God knows what was in the Prophet's heart, but if you read anything about his marriages, you will see love was always something that was described later on, not prior to the marriage. Yes, he reportedly adored Khadija, but again, this came after. What he had for her before would be described more accurately as respect and admiration. He by all accounts had not contemplated marriage (he was poor) and she approached him.

This tells me the situation when he got married, but it doesn't say he wasn't in love with her. Really, only Allah knows what was in his heart. But I have heard that he did consider her his great love, to the point that he never married another until after her death. Even after her death his second wife was extremely jealous of his memory of love for her.

This is the stories I have hear and read, does that sound accurate?

I was a little confused on your four reasons a woman may be married. For her property, her status, her beauty, and her religion. Are you saying that these are four reason a man may choose a woman to marry?

Of course deciding to get married in a Muslim country is vastly different than here in the US. But one thing I have learned about an Arabic man. When he sees the woman he wants to marry, he loves her. Not in the way that he will once he has been married for several years, but loves her nonetheless.

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He has a friend that has a wife in Canada. They talk in the evenings, and he tells her he is tired, so he pretents to be asleep and pauses the cam, then he takes off and goes out with his friends and does God knows what!

There are so many things seriously wrong with this statement that I don't even know where to begin. If she is at the point that she has to watch him sleep in the webcam and he needs to pause it in order to go out with his friends, then there are serious problems. :yes:

My fiance goes out with his friends all the time. I trust 100%, if I didn't trust him I would have never agreed to marry him. If you have no trust in a relationship, then you have nothing. Trust is a foundation and everything gets built from there.

You could make up an alternative user name and talk to him. Tell him that you met in a chatroom a while ago but haven't seen him online in awhile.

Holy ####### that was just evil...don't do that! Thank God I don't chat online anymore.

Oh my! If anyone gets to the point where they need to do this, then you need to take a serious look at your relationship. Sounds like something a teenager would do!

You are so right JP.

When I was younger I was so trusting, but I got burned. Now a man has to earn my trust, as sad as that sounds. I have always been honest with my husband, so I told him all I had done. He was shocked, but understood. He said he has seen how ruthless the men there can be. All in all it worked out fine for us. Neither one of us has a trust issue, and the games are stopped. It served its purpose.

I have also been burned, but I don't let that affect my relationship. I don't want my fiance to live in the shadow of my ex. I was also very honest with my fiance mostly because it started off as a friendship and him being half way around the world I never thought it would develop into anything so I let my guard down and told him everything bcz I figured I was never going to see him anyway. He was the same way, he told me everything about his life, the ups and downs. It was after that point that we realized that we had interest in each other romantically.

Jealousy is an ugly monster and I don't like to see it around me. Jealousy in mild forms can be cute, but if it gets out of hand it can destroy everything in its path. I also don't believe in "earning trust". I just don't see how a person can earn trust, what can they do earn trust. I think that you just have to put yourself out there and be willing to trust again. You may get hurt, but thats one of the risks of falling in love. I trusted my fiance from day one because I had no reason not to. The mind is like a prison, if you think about things too much you can convince yourself of anything and go crazy. Been there, done that and I don't want to do it again.

I do see your point JP, and the way you did it is right for you, and it worked out great.

As for jealousy, I don't think you understood me completely. I was not in love with him when I was doing this, no jealousy at all. Just verification that he is trustworthy. As far as earning trust, again your right, but it was what I needed to move past the things I have seen.

Before I knew anyone from Morocco I had been introduced into a group of men from Iraq that are here as refugees. They all claimed that Islam is the one and true religion, they claimed that the Arabic man knows how to treat a woman with respect. But what I saw was quite different.

I saw all of them, and I mean all of the ones I know had girlfriends (which now I know is forbidden) and wives. All of these women were their main ones, the ones they displayed to the public. Then there were the women they picked up in bars and parties, and carried on with when their supposed wives and girlfriends were at home waiting for their love to come home from being out with the guys playing cards. I will tell you, as wrong as this is I was totally turned off by all Arabic men after seeing this.

So when I met my husband, I figured he was like one of them, a player, liar, and a cheat. Now I have learned so much about the Muslims, and that I was judging harshly.

I am not saying that they way I handled it was right, it wasn't. I could have really hurt the greatest man I have ever met. I am so lucky that he is so understanding and forgiving.

As for testing, yes you need to test. You need to watch the little things, like I stated before. That is the key to whether or not the man is using you for a visa or if he really is in love.

"All I can say is regardles of the prophet's reasons for marriage or his intentions afterward, I don't think anyone here should use that as a defense or proof of the validity of their relationship. When dealing with the embassy you need cold hard facts. They have approved many marriages for people with age differences but those people had tons of evidence and thats what it boils down to."'

And make sure they see the evidence! Even if they don't ask for it or say no still make sure they see it otherwise a denial is a big possibility. Sorry I just had to throw that in there.

So true, they throw back this petitions in question without regards to their proof. I actually had a lawyer tell me my case was too strong, and I didn't need him. How is that for ya! He said he would charge $500 to assemble the papers though....lol....I can do that!

This is why I am stressing to people now to provide the USCIS with proof of every red flag with the initial petition. It can't be sent back for revocation on something the USCIS has already seen and approved.

'Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Chardonnay in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO, What a Ride'

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He has a friend that has a wife in Canada. They talk in the evenings, and he tells her he is tired, so he pretents to be asleep and pauses the cam, then he takes off and goes out with his friends and does God knows what!

There are so many things seriously wrong with this statement that I don't even know where to begin. If she is at the point that she has to watch him sleep in the webcam and he needs to pause it in order to go out with his friends, then there are serious problems. :yes:

My fiance goes out with his friends all the time. I trust 100%, if I didn't trust him I would have never agreed to marry him. If you have no trust in a relationship, then you have nothing. Trust is a foundation and everything gets built from there.

You could make up an alternative user name and talk to him. Tell him that you met in a chatroom a while ago but haven't seen him online in awhile.

Holy ####### that was just evil...don't do that! Thank God I don't chat online anymore.

Oh my! If anyone gets to the point where they need to do this, then you need to take a serious look at your relationship. Sounds like something a teenager would do!

You are so right JP.

When I was younger I was so trusting, but I got burned. Now a man has to earn my trust, as sad as that sounds. I have always been honest with my husband, so I told him all I had done. He was shocked, but understood. He said he has seen how ruthless the men there can be. All in all it worked out fine for us. Neither one of us has a trust issue, and the games are stopped. It served its purpose.

I have also been burned, but I don't let that affect my relationship. I don't want my fiance to live in the shadow of my ex. I was also very honest with my fiance mostly because it started off as a friendship and him being half way around the world I never thought it would develop into anything so I let my guard down and told him everything bcz I figured I was never going to see him anyway. He was the same way, he told me everything about his life, the ups and downs. It was after that point that we realized that we had interest in each other romantically.

Jealousy is an ugly monster and I don't like to see it around me. Jealousy in mild forms can be cute, but if it gets out of hand it can destroy everything in its path. I also don't believe in "earning trust". I just don't see how a person can earn trust, what can they do earn trust. I think that you just have to put yourself out there and be willing to trust again. You may get hurt, but thats one of the risks of falling in love. I trusted my fiance from day one because I had no reason not to. The mind is like a prison, if you think about things too much you can convince yourself of anything and go crazy. Been there, done that and I don't want to do it again.

I do see your point JP, and the way you did it is right for you, and it worked out great.

As for jealousy, I don't think you understood me completely. I was not in love with him when I was doing this, no jealousy at all. Just verification that he is trustworthy. As far as earning trust, again your right, but it was what I needed to move past the things I have seen.

Before I knew anyone from Morocco I had been introduced into a group of men from Iraq that are here as refugees. They all claimed that Islam is the one and true religion, they claimed that the Arabic man knows how to treat a woman with respect. But what I saw was quite different.

I saw all of them, and I mean all of the ones I know had girlfriends (which now I know is forbidden) and wives. All of these women were their main ones, the ones they displayed to the public. Then there were the women they picked up in bars and parties, and carried on with when their supposed wives and girlfriends were at home waiting for their love to come home from being out with the guys playing cards. I will tell you, as wrong as this is I was totally turned off by all Arabic men after seeing this.

So when I met my husband, I figured he was like one of them, a player, liar, and a cheat. Now I have learned so much about the Muslims, and that I was judging harshly.

I am not saying that they way I handled it was right, it wasn't. I could have really hurt the greatest man I have ever met. I am so lucky that he is so understanding and forgiving.

As for testing, yes you need to test. You need to watch the little things, like I stated before. That is the key to whether or not the man is using you for a visa or if he really is in love.

For me testing is out of the question. I guess to each his own. I think testing can also backfire. I mean if a guy is on the net and he is trying to find a girl to marry to get a green card, how will you know his intentions? He could lie the whole time and we would never know it. I consider these guys no different than con-artists and they are anticipating your every next move and already have a plan on how to react to that. Its a risk to marry someone from overseas, we all know that deep down inside. I just think that if someone wants some bad enough they will go to any length to get it.

~jordanian_princess~

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It's scary when someone comes out of an interview thinking everything went well, and they didn't even need their evidence in order to get approved. Then they find out later that their petition was sent back to USCIS because they didn't believe the relationship was valid. The Officers in Casa don't like to give too much information such as whether or not you were approved and what is going to happen. It's stinky but the best thing I personally think one can do is to show them the damn evidence even if they refuse it or dont' ask for it.

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So true, they throw back this petitions in question without regards to their proof. I actually had a lawyer tell me my case was too strong, and I didn't need him. How is that for ya! He said he would charge $500 to assemble the papers though....lol....I can do that!

This is why I am stressing to people now to provide the USCIS with proof of every red flag with the initial petition. It can't be sent back for revocation on something the USCIS has already seen and approved.

:thumbs: Exactly. I don't there is anyone here that can compare themselves to the prophets wives, no one is on that level. I don't mean that in a bad way, but it would be like me comparing myself to the Virgin Mary. Those were holy times and different times. We need to focus on today.

It's scary when someone comes out of an interview thinking everything went well, and they didn't even need their evidence in order to get approved. Then they find out later that their petition was sent back to USCIS because they didn't believe the relationship was valid. The Officers in Casa don't like to give too much information such as whether or not you were approved and what is going to happen. It's stinky but the best thing I personally think one can do is to show them the damn evidence even if they refuse it or dont' ask for it.

Not only that, but there is some really useful information on this site. I mean concrete stuff, people past experiances and ariticles, etc. These are things that can't be relayed again in the same manner they were before. I think people need to make use of the tools they have on this site. Search, search, search. I have answered so many of my questions this way. Even if someone makes a thread, what is Morocco4ever was not coming on VJ anymore and couldn't share her experience? What is there was no one that recalled exactly what happened. There is some good info deep down in these forums. :D

~jordanian_princess~

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He has a friend that has a wife in Canada. They talk in the evenings, and he tells her he is tired, so he pretents to be asleep and pauses the cam, then he takes off and goes out with his friends and does God knows what!

There are so many things seriously wrong with this statement that I don't even know where to begin. If she is at the point that she has to watch him sleep in the webcam and he needs to pause it in order to go out with his friends, then there are serious problems. :yes:

My fiance goes out with his friends all the time. I trust 100%, if I didn't trust him I would have never agreed to marry him. If you have no trust in a relationship, then you have nothing. Trust is a foundation and everything gets built from there.

You could make up an alternative user name and talk to him. Tell him that you met in a chatroom a while ago but haven't seen him online in awhile.

Holy ####### that was just evil...don't do that! Thank God I don't chat online anymore.

Oh my! If anyone gets to the point where they need to do this, then you need to take a serious look at your relationship. Sounds like something a teenager would do!

You are so right JP.

When I was younger I was so trusting, but I got burned. Now a man has to earn my trust, as sad as that sounds. I have always been honest with my husband, so I told him all I had done. He was shocked, but understood. He said he has seen how ruthless the men there can be. All in all it worked out fine for us. Neither one of us has a trust issue, and the games are stopped. It served its purpose.

I have also been burned, but I don't let that affect my relationship. I don't want my fiance to live in the shadow of my ex. I was also very honest with my fiance mostly because it started off as a friendship and him being half way around the world I never thought it would develop into anything so I let my guard down and told him everything bcz I figured I was never going to see him anyway. He was the same way, he told me everything about his life, the ups and downs. It was after that point that we realized that we had interest in each other romantically.

Jealousy is an ugly monster and I don't like to see it around me. Jealousy in mild forms can be cute, but if it gets out of hand it can destroy everything in its path. I also don't believe in "earning trust". I just don't see how a person can earn trust, what can they do earn trust. I think that you just have to put yourself out there and be willing to trust again. You may get hurt, but thats one of the risks of falling in love. I trusted my fiance from day one because I had no reason not to. The mind is like a prison, if you think about things too much you can convince yourself of anything and go crazy. Been there, done that and I don't want to do it again.

I do see your point JP, and the way you did it is right for you, and it worked out great.

As for jealousy, I don't think you understood me completely. I was not in love with him when I was doing this, no jealousy at all. Just verification that he is trustworthy. As far as earning trust, again your right, but it was what I needed to move past the things I have seen.

Before I knew anyone from Morocco I had been introduced into a group of men from Iraq that are here as refugees. They all claimed that Islam is the one and true religion, they claimed that the Arabic man knows how to treat a woman with respect. But what I saw was quite different.

I saw all of them, and I mean all of the ones I know had girlfriends (which now I know is forbidden) and wives. All of these women were their main ones, the ones they displayed to the public. Then there were the women they picked up in bars and parties, and carried on with when their supposed wives and girlfriends were at home waiting for their love to come home from being out with the guys playing cards. I will tell you, as wrong as this is I was totally turned off by all Arabic men after seeing this.

So when I met my husband, I figured he was like one of them, a player, liar, and a cheat. Now I have learned so much about the Muslims, and that I was judging harshly.

I am not saying that they way I handled it was right, it wasn't. I could have really hurt the greatest man I have ever met. I am so lucky that he is so understanding and forgiving.

As for testing, yes you need to test. You need to watch the little things, like I stated before. That is the key to whether or not the man is using you for a visa or if he really is in love.

For me testing is out of the question. I guess to each his own. I think testing can also backfire. I mean if a guy is on the net and he is trying to find a girl to marry to get a green card, how will you know his intentions? He could lie the whole time and we would never know it. I consider these guys no different than con-artists and they are anticipating your every next move and already have a plan on how to react to that. Its a risk to marry someone from overseas, we all know that deep down inside. I just think that if someone wants some bad enough they will go to any length to get it.

So true, but that can hold true to someone here in the states with other hidden agendas. When I say test, I mean watch the little things he does. Take you out in public, hold your hand. What about the look he gives you when he thinks you don't see him. What is he saying to people about you? There are so many signs that a man puts out, and if you are in tune they will show themselves.

How do you know your man loves you JP? I am 100% sure your answer won't be because he said so. I am sure there are so many signs that will go through your head. That is what I am talking about when I say testing.

So true, they throw back this petitions in question without regards to their proof. I actually had a lawyer tell me my case was too strong, and I didn't need him. How is that for ya! He said he would charge $500 to assemble the papers though....lol....I can do that!

This is why I am stressing to people now to provide the USCIS with proof of every red flag with the initial petition. It can't be sent back for revocation on something the USCIS has already seen and approved.

:thumbs: Exactly. I don't there is anyone here that can compare themselves to the prophets wives, no one is on that level. I don't mean that in a bad way, but it would be like me comparing myself to the Virgin Mary. Those were holy times and different times. We need to focus on today.

It's scary when someone comes out of an interview thinking everything went well, and they didn't even need their evidence in order to get approved. Then they find out later that their petition was sent back to USCIS because they didn't believe the relationship was valid. The Officers in Casa don't like to give too much information such as whether or not you were approved and what is going to happen. It's stinky but the best thing I personally think one can do is to show them the damn evidence even if they refuse it or dont' ask for it.

Not only that, but there is some really useful information on this site. I mean concrete stuff, people past experiances and ariticles, etc. These are things that can't be relayed again in the same manner they were before. I think people need to make use of the tools they have on this site. Search, search, search. I have answered so many of my questions this way. Even if someone makes a thread, what is Morocco4ever was not coming on VJ anymore and couldn't share her experience? What is there was no one that recalled exactly what happened. There is some good info deep down in these forums. :D

Yes, this forum is filled with experience and knowledge. It can be difficult to weed through the good advice and the bad advice at times though.

I will tell you, I don't really come to this forum anymore to learn what I am doing next. I already know. I come to enjoy some conversation, but mostly to help anyone that I can. If I know a subject, I say I know it. If I am giving it my best guess, I say that as well. But what I learned here from members on this forum has been priceless. I hope in some way I am able to help someone to avoid the grief that I have endured this past 1+ year.

'Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Chardonnay in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO, What a Ride'

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I am not an expert but I can at least share my experience going through Casa and hopefully help some people along the way! This site has helped me from before I filed through filing for AOS and I really do appreciate those who help out and answer questions. I hope to return the favor and answer questions where I feel confident answering. Yay Visa Journey!

 
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