Is this a Bigamous Marriage?

[Kang 22]

Granting she used a fake identity when she divirced the fil husband, i guess the divorce is void because the divorcee is not legally the one who married the Filipino guy

[TeapotGirl 66]

Granting she used a fake identity when she divirced the fil husband, i guess the divorce is void because the divorcee is not legally the one who married the Filipino guy

We know how she came to the USA, that is not an issue, we also know she committed bigamy when she married the second guy, no one is arguing either of those facts.

She can't get rid of the first marriage that's why she came up with faking her birthday and claim that she was 12 yrs old when she got married.

I have a feeling that that's the problem why she's not able to get a greencard. The USDHS keeps on discovering dirt about her.

[Leatherneck 693]

Yes teapotgurl, she is a human wrecking ball.

[Kang 22]

I think the real issue here is not which marriage laws apply but if the divorcee is the same as the one who married the filipino guy

I hope she does not cone out a la jose vargas and appeal for ambesty with her sob story

[Kang 22]

Other than lising half of his assets to her, I hope he worries more about his son coz once the mother steals him to the philippines recovering him will be almost impossible

[TeapotGirl 66]

I hope she does not cone out a la jose vargas and appeal for ambesty with her sob story

That's what's going to happened with the wife's kid (not the one that belongs to the OP). I just wonder why she left the other one.

Yes teapotgurl, she is a human wrecking ball.

Lesson learned: One of the reasons why someone shouldn't marry so young because you are still growing and haven't explored the world enough to find yourself and be decided what you really want to do in your life.

I'd love to hear from the 2nd husband. Him and the OP can send her a$$ back in Zambales. There are still some whorehouse there and maybe she could find an american who will clean this up for her. But sadly, she will be barred from entering the US for the rest of her fake life.

Edited November 11, 2011 by teapotgurl1983

[Kang 22]

I heard they are running after Koreans now to take them to korealand. With all the kpop fame it should not be surprising

[rheanick 42]

Ok. People are wondering why I am foucising on a bigamy issue...

I have a divorce lawyer and have spoken with other divorce lawyers. Before we found out that she used the wrong name with one of the divorces, they all have said that her divorces and marriage to me are valid and that out marriage is valid, regardless of anything else she has done.

If we get divorced, she is entitled to half of everything that I have and built towards without anyhelp from her whatsoever. Inlcuding half of my assets, half of the equity on our home and half of my retirement benefits. HALF if not more.

Now if it turns out to be null and void from the beignning, she will not.

And before anyone starts attacking me for being in a marriage for 13 years and leaving her out in the cold without a penny, I have no intention on doing such a thing. But it is not the issue we are discussing here, so lets please leave it at the discussion topic at hand.

Is she a resident of USA? If she is not... one argument is that she is a filipino citizen and the philippines does law does not recognize divorce unless there is an annulment or the USC is the one that filed for divorce. You could request her marriage certificate from the NSO (though i know you should have the name of her filipino husband, i may be wrong)) 2) request for a certificate of marriage from NSO. If you have these data... possible argument is that succeeding marriages are null and void.

Same time petition to have a full custody of the child for her being an unfit mother.. with all those lies...

Also, try to talk to lawyers who know filipino laws. You might get another viewpoint from them.

Edited November 11, 2011 by rheanick

[Adam & May 4]

Edited November 11, 2011 by Adam & May

[ECS 3]

Wow. Looks like I quite a topic here. Its almost hard to believe if it werent so true.

She had been removable ever since the 1993 when Immigration discovered her to be in a bigamous marriage (before I even met her). After many, many years of appeals and such, she was able to convince the Judge that she had submitted enough evidence that she was born in 1970. That is what I thought too all along and that is why I stood by her. Again, why it took so long for them to find her real birth certificate, I will never understand, but that was only discovered in 2010 and that is when I filed for divorce.

She still doesnt feel like she really did anything wrong and blames my wanting to leave her because I found someone else.

From what I understand, there are "voided" marriages and "voidable" marriages. Bigamy would be a "void" marriage, which means which I am trying to get. Fraudulent marriage could fall either under a "void" marriage or a "voidable" marriage. If it turns out to be a "voidable" marriage, there is a possibility that my assets will still be divisible to her.

My son is presently with me but she sees him on the weekends. I have already begun divorce prcedures and we have a hearing coming up to determine custody. My laywer knows that it is very important for me to get full custody

[VanessaTony 3,567]

Wow. Looks like I quite a topic here. Its almost hard to believe if it werent so true.

She had been removable ever since the 1993 when Immigration discovered her to be in a bigamous marriage (before I even met her). After many, many years of appeals and such, she was able to convince the Judge that she had submitted enough evidence that she was born in 1970. That is what I thought too all along and that is why I stood by her. Again, why it took so long for them to find her real birth certificate, I will never understand, but that was only discovered in 2010 and that is when I filed for divorce.

She still doesnt feel like she really did anything wrong and blames my wanting to leave her because I found someone else.

From what I understand, there are "voided" marriages and "voidable" marriages. Bigamy would be a "void" marriage, which means which I am trying to get. Fraudulent marriage could fall either under a "void" marriage or a "voidable" marriage. If it turns out to be a "voidable" marriage, there is a possibility that my assets will still be divisible to her.

My son is presently with me but she sees him on the weekends. I have already begun divorce prcedures and we have a hearing coming up to determine custody. My laywer knows that it is very important for me to get full custody

Good re your son. Remember, she COULD just take your child and run. This is why it's important to put a block on his passports. I would be very careful. She knows she's going to get deported and could get desperate and run.

[Leatherneck 693]

Is she a resident of USA? If she is not... one argument is that she is a filipino citizen and the philippines does law does not recognize divorce unless there is an annulment or the USC is the one that filed for divorce. You could request her marriage certificate from the NSO (though i know you should have the name of her filipino husband, i may be wrong)) 2) request for a certificate of marriage from NSO. If you have these data... possible argument is that succeeding marriages are null and void.

Same time petition to have a full custody of the child for her being an unfit mother.. with all those lies...

Also, try to talk to lawyers who know filipino laws. You might get another viewpoint from them.

But none of this matters now, the lawyers in the US feel he is legally married. It is now best to approach this from the stand point of her true identity being the cental issue and the fraud she committed when she signed her marriage license under a fake identity.

Philippine law will have no bearing on this case in a US family law court.

Proving a mother unfit is a very difficult hill to climb for a man, it takes much than lies to prove a woman an "unfit mother."

I know from personal experience how hard it is to get custody of a child from the mother, even when it is obvious she is unfit. And from the experience of a few male friends, I've seen how hard it is to get custody.

The OP certainly did not marry the person he thought he married.

[Leatherneck 693]

The problem with an attempt to block his US passport, she's a Phippine citizen, so she can get the kid a passport as he has dual citizenship.

[VanessaTony 3,567]

The problem with an attempt to block his US passport, she's a Phippine citizen, so she can get the kid a passport as he has dual citizenship.

Yes but can't he flag that one as well?

[TeapotGirl 66]

Philippine law will have no bearing on this case in a US family law court.

This is not like an Amanda Knox case. This is a marriage and divorce of people with different citizenship so you have to comply on the rules of both countries. To prove that his wife is a bigamist, then the lawyers of the OP may even be required to present Philippine documents showing that she's still when her 2nd husband took her in the US.

It's the other way around with the child custody though. That's purely US court because the child is a USC and son of USC

She had been removable ever since the 1993 when Immigration discovered her to be in a bigamous marriage (before I even met her).

Exactly. She's in the US because of her fake marriage but she should have been out of the US long time ago.