Is this a Bigamous Marriage?

[TeapotGirl 66]

I'm sorry to say, looks like your wife have made "cobweb of lies"- from first marriage to the second marriage to the 3rd marriage up to her status in the US.

Edited November 9, 2011 by teapotgurl1983

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I'm sorry to say, looks like your wife have made cobweb of lies- from first marriage to the second marriage to the 3rd marriage up to her status in the US.

Why? She "hid" her first marriage, which happened over 20 years ago in her home country where divorce is not legal. According to him, she had legal divorce papers for both of those marriages prior to marrying him in 1996.

So the real question is - why is this guy now taking issue with it 15 years later? Sounds to me like someone's going through a bitter divorce and is trying to get an edge on her. Perhaps he is trying to get out of paying alimony and child support, which explains why he hasn't given much details nor explained his motivation.

Edited November 9, 2011 by DFH

[TeapotGirl 66]

Why? She "hid" her first marriage, which happened over 20 years ago in her home country where divorce is not legal. According to him, she had legal divorce papers for both of those marriages prior to marrying him in 1996.

So the real question is - why is this guy now taking issue with it 15 years later? Sounds to me like someone's going through a bitter divorce and is trying to get an edge on her. Perhaps he is trying to get out of paying alimony and child support, which explains why he hasn't given much details nor explained his motivation.

The divorce is only legal for the ex-husbands part but it doesn't mean she can remarry. She is not a USC so she's covered by the Philippine law more so that those marriages happened in the Philippines. She should have obtained an annulment paper too before she married the OP.

If the wife of the OP became an American citizen before she got divorced by her FIRST husband, then that will be entitled to remarry the 2nd and 3rd husband.

Maybe the OP wants to make her as a legal resident too. Who knows. If he's divorcing her, then that woman will be a lot of trouble. Polygamy and illegal residence..oh oh

Edited November 9, 2011 by teapotgurl1983

[reginakrys 33]

As you may or may not know, the Philippines does not recognize divorce and their law states that a Philiipiine Citizen cannot obtain a divorce no matter where in the world they are. My wife is a Philiipine Citizen who married one time in 1982 to a Philippine Citizne and was able to hide that marriage, and then a US Citizen in 1991. She came here in 1991 and we met in 1996. Before her and I married, she was able to obtain divorces from both men. She was neither a US citizen nor a greencard holder and I am not sure if the Judge who granted her these divorces knew that at the time. Now my question is this: Since the US obviously recognizes divorce, but the Philippines does not, and she is a Philippine Citizen. Is she legitimately divorced and was she free to marry again in the US? If you are aware of any links, please list them.

Thanks!

Her second marriage was null and void from the very beginning, because she was still legally married to her first husband. They can't get divorce anywhere in the world, because they're covered by Philippine laws. Unless she underwent naturalization and became a US citizen during her stay there, she can't file for divorce.

She's STILL married to her first husband, I think.

http://www.bcphilippineslawyers.com/marriage-annulment-divorce-in-the-philippines/430/

Edited November 9, 2011 by reginakrys

[TinTin and Samby 11]

Her second marriage was null and void from the very beginning, because she was still legally married to her first husband. They can't get divorce anywhere in the world, because they're covered by Philippine laws. Unless she underwent naturalization and became a US citizen during her stay there, she can't file for divorce.

She's STILL married to her first husband, I think.

http://www.bcphilippineslawyers.com/marriage-annulment-divorce-in-the-philippines/430/

+1 Which makes the 2nd marriage fraudulent and therefore not legally in force, which also makes the 3rd marriage fraudulent and not legally in force. Since neither the 2nd nor the 3rd marriage are legally in force, that makes any divorces of those marriages irrelevent. Since the OP states that her first marriage was to a Filipino in the Philippines, then there are ZERO divorce options for her with that one. Yes there are annullment options, but I doubt that annulmment at this time would be a curative action for all the subsequent fraud. At best, I would think, it would put her in a unmarried status and therefore legally able to be married again in the future. (Remember, the other marriages are irrelevant, because they were entered into on fraudent basis, and she did not have the legal capacity to marry, since she was still married to husband #1 (hence the charge of bigamy). On top of all of this, there are strong quentions to be asked regarding her immigration status - if illegal, then, it's illegal, period. If her status came about through a (suppossed) legal process, then it too could also be null and void if marriage was part of that process and she "hid" that first marriage. That's immigration fraud..if that is what happened.

I also believe she is still legally married to the first husband (and only the first husband). All other marriages were entered into under fraud and have no force of law. The divorces from those other marriages are irrelevant.

It's certainly a big mess and a great example of the downward spiriling out of control that can occur when trying to not follow the rules and then try to hide that fact.

Warm Regards,

Samby

[TeapotGirl 66]

It's certainly a big mess and a great example of the downward spiriling out of control that can occur when trying to not follow the rules and then try to hide that fact.

Exactly. Just lie after another.

[TeapotGirl 66]

See the OPs previous post. Storyline that suits well in a daytime soap opera.

Edited November 9, 2011 by teapotgurl1983

[MalaysianGirl 26]

Oy vey. I remember that other post...

Damn confusing.

[rheanick 42]

even if the Philippines does not recognize divorce. your wife divorced to her former husbands are legal and valid. i don't know what's the reason behind it.. but... let me tell you a short story i had a friend who is now married to a US citizen and presently living in California. before she marry her husband. her marriage is still valid to her former husband and not even started to file for annulment and also she was considered as illegal alien in the US.. but 2 months prior to her wedding. he filed for divorce with the help from her atty.in SF CA and then sent documents to the Philippines for her former husband's approval(signature)and then that's it the rest is history.

I guess judge in the US are knowledgeable enough to know everything about law in the US as well as in the Phils. if the law does not apply to both country decision will not be made

The filipino husband is stupid enough to recognise that divorce is valid in the Philippines.

This case happened to my filipino friend and he was left to believe that it is valid. I did a research on the matter and told my filipino friend that if he wants to get even with her wife in the US, this could be done legally coz the divorce is not valid

[TeapotGirl 66]

The filipino husband is stupid enough to recognise that divorce is valid in the Philippines.

No one's gonna draft a divorce paper if the guy didn't change citizenship. My theory is that, first husband became a USC then filed for a divorce. It will really entitle him to remarry but the wife won't because she's still a Filipino citizen.

Edited November 9, 2011 by teapotgurl1983

[Leatherneck 693]

I think there is a lot of mixing of apples and oranges here. US citizenship and legal status are not considered when getting a divorce in the U.S., when you file the divorce papers and both parties acknowledge of having been served of the pending action, you give that court jurisdiction over the matter, regardless of what country you're from.

Now, that first marriage is still valid in the Philippines under Philippine law, but in the eyes of U.S. law, she was granted a legal divorce, therefore, she is divorced here.

So that 2nd marriage was valid under U.S. law, because she obtained a legal divorce in the U.S. under U.S. law from the first husband. But under Philppine law her second marraige is not valid there, but she is not living in the Philippines, so it does not matter.

Just as a family court judge in the U.S. cares nothing about Philippine law with regards to child support and child custody, nor does any judge look to divorce law in the Philippines or any other country before granting a divorce here in the U.S. If you're in the U.S., you are subject to the laws of the state where you reside.

So OP, under the laws of the U.S., your marriage was/is valid. Your wife obtained legal divorces from both men. Now if she goes back to the Philippines, she has a problem and a mess on her hands.

[Leatherneck 693]

No one's gonna draft a divorce paper if the guy didn't change citizenship. My theory is that, first husband became a USC then filed for a divorce. It will really entitle him to remarry but the wife won't because she's still a Filipino citizen.

Citizenship and legal status are not considered when getting a divorce in the U.S., you can be from mars and get a divorce in the U.S.

Most states and counties have residency requirement before you can file a "Petition for Dissolution of Marraige" meaning you must live there for a certain number of months prior to filing a petition to dissolve a marriage.

[Leatherneck 693]

The filipino husband is stupid enough to recognise that divorce is valid in the Philippines.

This case happened to my filipino friend and he was left to believe that it is valid. I did a research on the matter and told my filipino friend that if he wants to get even with her wife in the US, this could be done legally coz the divorce is not valid

How is his divorce not valid in the U.S. under the laws of the state where the divorce was granted?

That divorce is not valid in the Philppines, but it is valid here.

[TeapotGirl 66]

1. The wife stayed in the US illegally.

2. Got another kid that's staying in the US illegally.

3. Was married to the 3rd husband in an illegal status.

4. Marriage was bigamous in the Philippines.

5. OP didn't know that his wife abandoned a kid in the Philippines.

6. Wife lied in the USCIS that her b-day was incorrect claiming she's born in 1970 but it's really 1964.

OVERALL, THE OP DOESN'T KNOW WHO HE MARRIED.

[Leatherneck 693]

I just read the OP's first post. The way the OP wrote the post was not very clear.

That marriage to the Air force guy (2nd husband) was not valid because she was married alread.

My first post was predicated on the wife being here in the U.S. and getting legal divorces, which I see now she never had a valid marriage to the first husband from the start.