Food Stamps

[sheeshkabelle 153]

I am not sure, and I don't mean this mean spirtied but I hope with every fiber of my being, that the US Government would not let you sponsor another person to come to this country, while you are receiving tax payer funded benefits to support yourself.

He has a job. The economy sucks, people are losing their jobs and getting hours cut all over the place. He needs a little help and he's allowed to get said help. He is a tax payer, and paid into the system. The OP has even said he's looking for another job. Ease up a little. Some need to remember the saying "Walk a mile in my shoes"

People seem to be confusing temporary benefits as welfare. Welfare is a totally different ball game all together.

[az110965 252]

He has a job. The economy sucks, people are losing their jobs and getting hours cut all over the place. He needs a little help and he's allowed to get said help. He is a tax payer, and paid into the system. The OP has even said he's looking for another job. Ease up a little. Some need to remember the saying "Walk a mile in my shoes"

People seem to be confusing temporary benefits as welfare. Welfare is a totally different ball game all together.

I agree. The OP never came across as lazy or unwilling to work, juts sounds like a young person who is just getting established and it DOES sound like he has a plan to become a sucessful businessman in the future.

The guy has listened to the advice given and has stated he's most likely going to get a second job to help make ends meet - that's a damn site better than many of the people who are chronic leaches on society.

I personally wish him luck and bet he's sucessful in the future.

[beejay 125]

He has a job. The economy sucks, people are losing their jobs and getting hours cut all over the place. He needs a little help and he's allowed to get said help. He is a tax payer, and paid into the system. The OP has even said he's looking for another job. Ease up a little. Some need to remember the saying "Walk a mile in my shoes"

People seem to be confusing temporary benefits as welfare. Welfare is a totally different ball game all together.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I am not sure, and I don't mean this mean spirtied but I hope with every fiber of my being, that the US Government would not let you sponsor another person to come to this country, while you are receiving tax payer funded benefits to support yourself.

They will. And they should. Why would a citizen be required to surrender their rights and privileges to get married?

The problem here is not that the OP gets benefits or not, the problem is that the federal government will GIVE benefits to family based immigrants and THEN ask for the sponsor to pay the money back. Hence the "need" for the I-864, the I-134 and a whole lot of BS we really don't need

Simply make family based immigrants ineligible for means tested benefits until they are citizens and be done with it.

[sea-town 5]

He has a job. The economy sucks, people are losing their jobs and getting hours cut all over the place. He needs a little help and he's allowed to get said help. He is a tax payer, and paid into the system. The OP has even said he's looking for another job. Ease up a little. Some need to remember the saying "Walk a mile in my shoes"

People seem to be confusing temporary benefits as welfare. Welfare is a totally different ball game all together.

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[The Nature Boy 4,224]

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I don't know his situation so I can't judge what he is or isn't doing. What I can say and I stand by it is, that if you are at a point in your life, that for whatever reason, you have are relying on tax payer funded assistance to subsist. , then you should be spending every dime you make towards that subsistence.. When he no longer has to use my tax dollars to subsist, he may do whatever he pleases and I will have no opinion on the subject.

Edited November 11, 2011 by scruffydog

[az110965 252]

"I don't know his situation so I can't judge what he is or isn't doing.

Didn't you in fact JUST judge him?

Edited November 11, 2011 by az110965

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

"I don't know his situation so I can't judge what he is or isn't doing.

Didn't you in fact JUST judge him?

Nope I judged the fact that as long as he is depending on others for his support he should spend 100% of his energy, money and time to not being dependent t on others for his support. . If Him and his fiancee have money to file K-1 Visas, buy plane tickets then they should not need tax payer funded assistance. If a person really needs help , then fine I have no problem with that. How can you be so poor you can't buy food, while at the same time making plans to secure a K-1 visa and bring a spouse to this country which is very expensive. So who is going to buy her food. I sure don't want to have my tax dollars contribute to any of the above.

[az110965 252]

Nope I judged the fact that as long as he is depending on others for his support he should spend 100% of his energy, money and time to not being dependent t on others for his support. . If Him and his fiancee have money to file K-1 Visas, buy plane tickets then they should not need tax payer funded assistance. If a person really needs help , then fine I have no problem with that. How can you be so poor you can't buy food, while at the same time making plans to secure a K-1 visa and bring a spouse to this country which is very expensive. So who is going to buy her food. I sure don't want to have my tax dollars contribute to any of the above.

I don't recall the OP asking you to buy his fiance's food at any point of his post. I give the kid credit because at least he seems to have a plan for his future and he was receptitve to getting a second job for additional income unlike some of the people who stay on the public rolls for years and who know how to work the system.

With all the wasted tax payer money spent on things that aren't important I have no qualms with him getting a few bucks each month in food stamps. At least the OP is a USC getting the benefit, not someone in a completely different country.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I don't recall the OP asking you to buy his fiance's food at any point of his post. I give the kid credit because at least he seems to have a plan for his future and he was receptitve to getting a second job for additional income unlike some of the people who stay on the public rolls for years and who know how to work the system.

With all the wasted tax payer money spent on things that aren't important I have no qualms with him getting a few bucks each month in food stamps. At least the OP is a USC getting the benefit, not someone in a completely different country.

I agree totally that he seems to want to work himself out of it. and no problem with short term help for people who thru no fault of their own need a hand up. All right, tell me. Who pays for the K-1, interview, Medical, for the plane ticket and who provides for her when she first gets here ?

[az110965 252]

I agree totally that he seems to want to work himself out of it. and no problem with short term help for people who thru no fault of their own need a hand up. All right, tell me. Who pays for the K-1, interview, Medical, for the plane ticket and who provides for her when she first gets here ?

I'm glad that we agree that he's entitled to the help if he needs it on a temporary basis. That's one perk we get as being USC and I'm grateful every day that I'm not in that young man's situation.

As far as who pays for his fiance's K-1, interview, plane ticket, etc... Him receiving $25 or $50 each month to buy FOOD isn't gonna pay her K-1 or any other fees. I would hope by that time he'd be better established and fully able to care for her himself.

I brought up the same things erlier in his post. That the K-1 fee is 1/3 of his monthly net, the interview and visa fees about 3/4 his net monthly and AOS fees exceed his monthly income - but that is months away and hopefully his economic issues are solved by then.

In the meantime, berating the OP won't help him and he never asked for our opinion - only asked the consecquences to the K-1 process if he happened to be receiving food stamps. Answer = no negative ramifications.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I agree totally that he seems to want to work himself out of it. and no problem with short term help for people who thru no fault of their own need a hand up. All right, tell me. Who pays for the K-1, interview, Medical, for the plane ticket and who provides for her when she first gets here ?

These are questions you should not ask and no one should. The problem comes from the fact that we have to make this affidavit of support. We should not. The immigrant should simply be ineligible and then there is no question

Your standard for what someone should do with their money is not realistic nor is it in any way in line with reality and what is required to receive food stamps. Would you take a child tax credit? Why should the rest of us subsidize your child? Would you take the "hope credit" for education? Why should we subsidize you for that? A tax deduction for your home mortgage interest? Why am I subsidizing YOUR house???? How much further would you care to go?

The problem is not food stamps, the problem is a revenue system that creates class envy or class warfare and exempts 47% of the population from paying any income tax at all.

If you have issues with our revenue system (and I do) then address that and do not try to decide what is best for others to do.

Personally I hope his fiancee gets here OK and they get married and she gets a job and they live happily ever after.

[ecirnala 9]

I agree totally that he seems to want to work himself out of it. and no problem with short term help for people who thru no fault of their own need a hand up. All right, tell me. Who pays for the K-1, interview, Medical, for the plane ticket and who provides for her when she first gets here ?

Al Queda, the Mexican mafia, the Yakuza, N. Korea, Iran, the PLO, that guy from Penn State who likes to take showers w/ little boys, the Occupy Wallstreet Movement, the liberal media, Nancy Pelosi, & Gloria Allred. What do you want me to tell you? I'm doing the best that I can without getting any help & I only asked a ? because someone that I had talked to suggested it & i was curious. My bad, I'll never ask another one. I apologize to all of you who were offended.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

These are questions you should not ask and no one should. The problem comes from the fact that we have to make this affidavit of support. We should not. The immigrant should simply be ineligible and then there is no question

Your standard for what someone should do with their money is not realistic nor is it in any way in line with reality and what is required to receive food stamps. Would you take a child tax credit? Why should the rest of us subsidize your child? Would you take the "hope credit" for education? Why should we subsidize you for that? A tax deduction for your home mortgage interest? Why am I subsidizing YOUR house???? How much further would you care to go?

The problem is not food stamps, the problem is a revenue system that creates class envy or class warfare and exempts 47% of the population from paying any income tax at all.

If you have issues with our revenue system (and I do) then address that and do not try to decide what is best for others to do.

Personally I hope his fiancee gets here OK and they get married and she gets a job and they live happily ever after.

I agree 100% with most of what you just said, I think I am part of the 53% and I promise you with the taxes I paid last year no one is subsidizing anything for me. Yes I do know what it is like to be in his shoes, I have been poor. I do disagree with this . When he is taking more out of the system than he is putting in, the 53% that is funding it have a right to ask such questions.

Bottom line is i also ope they make it and get married, but only after he can afford it. Good luck to him.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I agree totally that he seems to want to work himself out of it. and no problem with short term help for people who thru no fault of their own need a hand up. All right, tell me. Who pays for the K-1, interview, Medical, for the plane ticket and who provides for her when she first gets here ?

Let me help you feel better. I have a good job making good money and I do not get food stamps. Relieved? Good.

Alla qualifies for the "hope credit" $2600 in our pocket each year that other taxpayers pay for. In addition to her 50% tax free scholarship worth $8000 per semester, it covered a lot of the expense of her Masters degree from a private university. Thanks. No food stamps here!

$1000 child tax credit for our immigrant LPR son under age 17.

$11000 off our income from itemized deductions!

We use the tax return to pay for our trips back and forth to Ukraine and it has been enough each year for all of us to go twice!

No food stamps in this house!

Just focus on food stamps, don't worry about how our country runs its revenue system.

Edited November 11, 2011 by Gary and Alla