Importance of communication screenshots and ongoing relationship proof during interview

[TeapotGirl 66]

I've heard and read more than 5 times that the consul doesn't even look or ask for a screenshot as your proof of ongoing relationship evidences.

It better be ready than sorry but I would like to know how many of you put so much effort into printing and documentation and it was not even asked.

Edited November 4, 2011 by teapotgurl1983

[TeapotGirl 66]

No a brainer but just in case you miss, just click "show results" button to see the results.

[jon&cess 0]

Hi! I was just wonderin. Is this poll for K-1 visas only or is it applicable to IR1/CR1 cases as well? I have the same dilemma preparing such proofs and can't decide for myself. Thanks for posting this topic, the poll result would be such of great help.

[TeapotGirl 66]

Hi! I was just wonderin. Is this poll for K-1 visas only or is it applicable to IR1/CR1 cases as well? I have the same dilemma preparing such proofs and can't decide for myself. Thanks for posting this topic, the poll result would be such of great help.

I was just specifically asking about K-1 because I dunno what's the difference if it's spousal. I just know you have to show marriage contract.

Everyone's free to share their experiences though to give a general idea.

Edited November 4, 2011 by teapotgurl1983

[hnubno 9]

when they interviewed him they didn't really look through much but we were put under AP so i think they looked at everything for us. i personally think they looked at our pics and my passport. also they read what i wrote on how we met.

Edited November 4, 2011 by hnubno

[Deputy Purple 1,294]

You do realize that this varies greatly by country, right?

[TeapotGirl 66]

You do realize that this varies greatly by country, right?

If you are talking to me, I did say "Philippines-K1 applicants."

[jon&cess 0]

I was just specifically asking about K-1 because I dunno what's the difference if it's spousal. I just know you have to show marriage contract.

Everyone's free to share their experiences though to give a general idea.

I just finished preparing screenshots of our Facebook conversations and it reached a total of 268 pages. Yahoo messenger chats, skype videocalls log, magic jack calls log and telephone bills are not yet included. I really have no idea (to be on the safe side), on how many pages of such communication proofs will be needed. But yeah, I was hoping for Philippines IR1/CR1 applicants answers/advises. Sorry if I'm messing & creating confusions in your thread teapotgurl1983. If anybody happens to read my post, please do send me a message, write a comment or post in my profile. Your responses will be greatly appreciated.

[brian_n_phuong 193]

I'm not putting a lot of time and effort into screenshots as they are weak evidence.

How many of us recorded WC screen shots in the beginning of the relationship? How many of us thought "Hey, lets record this in case we get serious later and need it for our K-1?". In addition to most screenshots lacking a timeslot, I think most CO's realize that this type of evidence is usually only a few months old when the applicants started building evidence. I am not saying it doesn't hurt. but I doubt if the CO's put a lot of trust in something that can be easily faked, or so new that it doesnt show the length of the relationship.

Chat logs are probably not of huge value either. With exception most can be easily faked. Anyone can create several online ID's, and crank off page after page of ficticious chatlogs. Again, they dont hurt, but are probably of little value. As with the screenshots, how many people "save" chat logs?? Most chatlogs are overwritten or erased by default after a set time period to prevent filling up the hardrive, and as in the screenshots these documents would probably only exist for recent conversations.

E-Mails seem to be of more value. Although the dates can be faked, I doubt most people would go to that length of deception. Additionally, the topics and events described in the emails can usual be read in succession and can show a rough timeline (ie talking about Chrismas, holidays, birthdays, etc..). Even without datestamps the emails hold some weight. I've printed out my emails to include the 'headers" showing the routing of the emails.

Photos by far are the superior evidence, even without datestamps. I couldnt remember the dates of some of my photos, but was able to match them up by looking at our wardrobe, hairlength, and type of weather outside. Heck, could even match a few by the depth of my summer tan! I doubt that a trained CO would have much trouble spotting fakes either. I've seen a few rejections on this site where the reason was "Inconsistent" photos, and I imagine the rejected package showed photos dated years apart, but with the couple in the same clothes and hairstyles.

[charlize56 4]

well from my experience,thats what the consular officer asked from me! he looked and read the chat conversation and pictures/screenshots of me and my fiance.fb accounts,skype,yahoo messenger,and google gmail chat records.i tried to show him my other proofs but he ddint bother to look at it,he asked me some weird questions and then asking the same thing"when was the last time you talk to your fiance?"I just said,"just last night"! whatever he was thinking that time,IDC I am telling the truth to him!

[MikelanNida 28]

Its not part of the poll but it seems that hand written letters with the envelopes to show postmarks and phone bills that show date, time, number called, and duration of calls are some of the most rock solid proof you can have.

[TeapotGirl 66]

well from my experience,thats what the consular officer asked from me! he looked and read the chat conversation and pictures/screenshots of me and my fiance.fb accounts,skype,yahoo messenger,and google gmail chat records.i tried to show him my other proofs but he ddint bother to look at it,he asked me some weird questions and then asking the same thing"when was the last time you talk to your fiance?"I just said,"just last night"! whatever he was thinking that time,IDC I am telling the truth to him!

You're one of the few. But it's glad to know that your preparation was looked at. Wow.

Its not part of the poll but it seems that hand written letters with the envelopes to show postmarks and phone bills that show date, time, number called, and duration of calls are some of the most rock solid proof you can have.

mail/email and telephone bills are both in the option.

Edited November 4, 2011 by teapotgurl1983

[hoody 8]

As what the consul said during the America in 3D presentation, they want to know more about you, the applicant rather than reading all the chat logs or scrutinizing the screenshots. Like a job interview, they are just gonna scan your resume but they are gonna ask you to tell them about yourself. So what matters is how you answer the questions and how well you handled it. But then again it never hurts to prepare for those stuff -- just not overdo it i guess.

[Oksana & Max 94]

I'm not putting a lot of time and effort into screenshots as they are weak evidence.

How many of us recorded WC screen shots in the beginning of the relationship? How many of us thought "Hey, lets record this in case we get serious later and need it for our K-1?". In addition to most screenshots lacking a timeslot, I think most CO's realize that this type of evidence is usually only a few months old when the applicants started building evidence. I am not saying it doesn't hurt. but I doubt if the CO's put a lot of trust in something that can be easily faked, or so new that it doesnt show the length of the relationship.

Chat logs are probably not of huge value either. With exception most can be easily faked. Anyone can create several online ID's, and crank off page after page of ficticious chatlogs. Again, they dont hurt, but are probably of little value. As with the screenshots, how many people "save" chat logs?? Most chatlogs are overwritten or erased by default after a set time period to prevent filling up the hardrive, and as in the screenshots these documents would probably only exist for recent conversations.

E-Mails seem to be of more value. Although the dates can be faked, I doubt most people would go to that length of deception. Additionally, the topics and events described in the emails can usual be read in succession and can show a rough timeline (ie talking about Chrismas, holidays, birthdays, etc..). Even without datestamps the emails hold some weight. I've printed out my emails to include the 'headers" showing the routing of the emails.

Photos by far are the superior evidence, even without datestamps. I couldnt remember the dates of some of my photos, but was able to match them up by looking at our wardrobe, hairlength, and type of weather outside. Heck, could even match a few by the depth of my summer tan! I doubt that a trained CO would have much trouble spotting fakes either. I've seen a few rejections on this site where the reason was "Inconsistent" photos, and I imagine the rejected package showed photos dated years apart, but with the couple in the same clothes and hairstyles.

I don't want to scrutinize your post, but according to you everything is fake and doesn't show proof of the relationship. Well let me tell you like that. As you stated: "Photos by far are the superior evidence, even without datestamps" I can fake photos as easy as I can fake everything else. There are great software programs that will let you do whatever you want.

So according to you again the K-1 visas shouldn't even exist as you can never proof a relationship since everything is fake.

[bigdog 376]

Questions, about how we met and our plans, photos and travel proof.