APNewsBreak: US northern border checks scaled back

[mawilson 2,133]

Do we have a problem with illegal Canadians?

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Do we have a problem with illegal Canadians?

Used to be thousands of illegal Chinese came to the US via Canada. Throw in the terrorist that come to the US via Canada..and yes there is a problem.

Edited October 30, 2011 by Why_Me

[Ban Hammer 13,501]

Do we have a problem with illegal Canadians?

not if they bring timbits

[james&olya 1,121]

Do the math. 7431 arrests by 2200 agents means only 3.3 arrests per agent per year! Sounds like a poor utilization of resources to me!

[sly_wolf 199]

Used to be thousands of illegal Chinese came to the US via Canada. Throw in the terrorist that come to the US via Canada..and yes there is a problem.

The terrorists are already living in the US. There is too much money and resources being thrown at what is basically some pot smuggling issues on the northern border.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Do we have a problem with illegal Canadians?

Not really. There has been a big problem with illegals coming FROM Canada, most recently a lot of Haitians. Canada has a more lax immigration policy in an attempt to populate the tundra, and may of these people use this to get to a land border crossing with the USA.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

The terrorists are already living in the US. There is too much money and resources being thrown at what is basically some pot smuggling issues on the northern border.

This is simply not true. There have been many thousands of illegal Haitians, chinese and other nationalities. The second most commonly spken language in Montreal is Chinese, there are a lot of Chinese there and many have immigrated illegally here. A couple years ago a string of 6 restaraunts in Burlington were closed for employing basically slave labor, all Chinese immigrants that came from Montreal. They were housed in an old house with 31 people to one toilet. THAT is the face of illegal immigration, but whatever we do, we should not check anyone's ID

when the USA gave a special consideration to Haitians, victims of the earthquake, thousands flooded across from Quebec to claim to be "earthquake victims"

How many times were you questioned by CBP?

[mawilson 2,133]

Used to be thousands of illegal Chinese came to the US via Canada.

Come to the US from Canada? Doesn't make any sense. Why don't they stay in Canada, a socialist paradise with free healthcare for all?

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Come to the US from Canada? Doesn't make any sense. Why don't they stay in Canada, a socialist paradise with free healthcare for all?

Why would a Haitian leave Montreal? Does the phrase "J'ai Froid!" mean anything to you?

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Do the math. 7431 arrests by 2200 agents means only 3.3 arrests per agent per year! Sounds like a poor utilization of resources to me!

Sounds like they need to be making more stops and checks. It sounds like inefficient use to me. 2200 agents for a 5000 mile border? Divide by four to allow for days off and three shifts and you ahve 500 agents at any given time, or one for every 10 miles? Too much? The majority of the border is unmarked, unfenced. Even Vermont which borders a relatively populaous area (compared to Montana or North Dakota, for example) has no real demarcation between countries except near towns. And then it is usually a wire fence with signs every 100 yards or so.

Edited October 30, 2011 by Gary and Alla

[sly_wolf 199]

This is simply not true. There have been many thousands of illegal Haitians, chinese and other nationalities. The second most commonly spken language in Montreal is Chinese, there are a lot of Chinese there and many have immigrated illegally here. A couple years ago a string of 6 restaraunts in Burlington were closed for employing basically slave labor, all Chinese immigrants that came from Montreal. They were housed in an old house with 31 people to one toilet. THAT is the face of illegal immigration, but whatever we do, we should not check anyone's ID

when the USA gave a special consideration to Haitians, victims of the earthquake, thousands flooded across from Quebec to claim to be "earthquake victims"

How many times were you questioned by CBP?

I haven't seen any of those where I live .... not one. Maybe they like vermont's healthcare better.

I had heard of a local farm that got busted with illigal Mexicans. I would never have thought that Mexicans would have come all the way up to the North Country where its cold. Seems that farmer had trouble getting local citizens that were willing to work ...... sounds like a common problem in the US and yes even Canada. If no one wants the jobs .... then why not have the outside help.

[sly_wolf 199]

Come to the US from Canada? Doesn't make any sense. Why don't they stay in Canada, a socialist paradise with free healthcare for all?

They do stay in Canada .... especially with the current state of affairs here.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

They do stay in Canada .... especially with the current state of affairs here.

Oh good news.

How many times have you been stopped and questioned by CBP?

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

If no one wants the jobs .... then why not have the outside help.

Nothing worng with "outside help". and both countries have policies in place for that. Are you suggesting that anyone simply go into Quebec to work if they need a job? How do you think the Quebec unions feel about that? Is it OK with the Quebec government? Canadian government? Would they care if I work there with no SIN?

We in the US have established standards for people working here. Most of those have been supported and promoted by people that call themselves "liberals". These include a minimum wage, OSHA, workman's compensation, medicare, Social Security, ADA, FMLA, etc., etc. All of these benefits, standards and conditions...and the associated costs...are avoided and the profit pocketed when illegal workers are used. It is nothing more than pure exploitation and "human trafficking" for profit. Anyone that looks the other way as these people are abused and exploited is a racist of the first order. A person who demands one set of standards for certain workers and looks the other way as people of another race and nationality are abused, ultimately for their own profit in artifically lower prices. It does not matter that the victims participate in this willingly.

We need to make it unprofitable for businesses to abuse and exploit illegal workers for profit, then they will not. No jobs, who will come here? For what?

THEN we can focus our resources on bad guys.

[sly_wolf 199]

Oh good news.

How many times have you been stopped and questioned by CBP?

It happens a few times .... not often but it feels like being in those "other countries" with no freedom. As I said the first time .... its overkill.