My wife is a US citizen and applying for the dv lottery

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

You are correct, not everyone wants to leave their home land and come to the USA. It is stereotyping people and assuming the negative about someone immediately. I am also an immigrant and was asked if I left for a better life and the thoughts that ran through my mind were heck no ! I felt insulted.

The US is a decent place but not what some people make it out to be, but so is my home country. I understand that you want to try the DV but it would be best to refile if possible, depending on the grounds for denial.

First you need to find out EXACTLY what the reason for the denial was. There are too many variables and too little details to advice you correctly at this time. Contact a very good immigration attorney who specializes in denials to guide you.

Marc Ellis is a good one and he has written several posts here on VJ in regards to denials and returned petitions.

Always be very honest about everything. I wish you and your wife the best.

[RightClicK 17]

Could it be that the immigration officer saw that this is how you felt & decided what the heck,

why allow someone to get here if this country is by perceived as this person as a misery?

He would be ignorant if he thought that way without putting expectations before taking that decision or thinking that way and who ever would think the same would be ignorant too because 1- he knew the circumstances but he still thought same way 2- he doesn't know that sometimes people take hard decisions because they are brave and good enough to take it 3- he is jealous as ###### because he isn't as loved as my wife from his spouse or gf or whoever else.

maybe huh

[kennym 275]

just stop thinking for once that everybody wants to live in the US and its the dream land.

SamOnline

First, let me appologize for this response, it may not help the OP with his situation, except to know, that I sympathize...

I believe America has it benefits,... BUT...

I will admit, Americans are arrogant, and American Policy assumes that E V E R Y O N E wants to live in the USA.. Whether or not statistics support this, I have not met many people from the countries I've been to, that are anxious to leave their country and come live in the USA... There are many places that folks from other countries want to visit.. Most Americans have never left the USA and have no idea what the real life is like in other countries.. We listen to the news about how many illegally immigrate to the USA, but, I am holding back my thoughts about why that is..The fact is that the same Americans that have never travelled abroad, feel that the USA is the only place worth living and they believe that the reason that the immigration problem exists is to take jobs away from USC's.. Americans feel that everyone outside the USA wants to leave their terrible lives and come to the USA... The truth is, Those that believe this, don't have a clue what other cultures truly have to offer.. And those that are adventurist enough realize after spending sometime outside the USA, that there are plenty of places that have plenty of good things to offer..

I am fairly convinced; many immigrate either legally or otherwise, simply out of desperation to be with their loved ones... To me, it should be a slam dunk, that as a USC, if you have family that you want to be with, you should be allowed to be with them, here in the USA.. It should be an inherent right..

Yes, there is the other side of the illegal immigration problem. Which includes those in very bad conditions trying to find a way to care for their families, but that is a completely different problem and not what I am interested in discussing..

I don’t know your entire story, but it seems that there are many that go through great lengths to be with their wife and children, the US doesn't make that easy.. It's sad that the assumption that the USA has is that E V E R Y O N E wants to come to the USA just to get away from their bad lives.. This seems to me, to be the furthest thing from the truth..

My wife is Columbiana, she absolutely did not want to leave her country.. Her family is everything to her.. Her mom, brother, sister, uncles, aunts are all very tight and are always doing things together.. They don’t need much.. They struggle with work to make ends meet, but, the time they have together and the things they do together, makes all those struggles seem worth it because of the wholesomeness, fun, and togetherness they feel each and every day.. Frankly, it seems those things are lost her in our culture..

Americans measure happiness and success by a different standard.. And we may not realize that other cultures have a completely different measure of happiness..

So, your statement about how every assumption is based on Americans feeling that everyone wants to come to the USA, just to take advantage of the American dream is seemingly true... There is a high cost of being allowed to seek that dream.. The problem with that kind of mentality is, that that dream only exists in the minds of Americans, and not something that is real... The fact is, an entrepreneur, you can succeed in any place.. There are countless financially successful people all over the world... And in today’s World-Wide market place, it is possible to achieve that dream regardless of where you live.. SO the issues isn't that people want to come to the USA to take advantage for some obscure, elusive belief of reaching their dreams.. People want to be with their family and be in a position to take care of their family...

My wife's family is in Colombia, her Mom, her Step Dad, and her brother and sister.. They all miss each other tremendously... My wife asked recently about if its possible for her or I to petition for them.. I told her, it isn’t a simple process and certainly no slam dunk.. Even if we were able to, how did she believe they would support themselves.. Her step dad runs a hospital in Colombia, as a Chief Administrator.. It's a good job, her mom runs her own business manufacturing clothes for retailers and has about 25 employees. So, talking to her, I explained what could they do here? They don’t speak English, they have very little chance to have the life here they have there.. She said, she knows, but her family wants to be close to her.. Again, it wasn't about seeking the American Dream, it is about Family... I completely understand that, but explained the process for her to get her mom and the rest of her family here would take years.. It's unfortunate that this is the case..

We absolutely support legal immigration, but it seems like the System is flawed because it is one of the most difficult countries in the world to either visit or immigrate to..

Then there are the cases that are unfairly suspected of fraud or other disqualifying problems..

I really feel for you, and hope you can find a way to be together... But in the end, we do what we can do...

[RightClicK 17]

You are correct, not everyone wants to leave their home land and come to the USA. It is stereotyping people and assuming the negative about someone immediately. I am also an immigrant and was asked if I left for a better life and the thoughts that ran through my mind were heck no ! I felt insulted.

The US is a decent place but not what some people make it out to be, but so is my home country. I understand that you want to try the DV but it would be best to refile if possible, depending on the grounds for denial.

First you need to find out EXACTLY what the reason for the denial was. There are too many variables and too little details to advice you correctly at this time. Contact a very good immigration attorney who specializes in denials to guide you.

Marc Ellis is a good one and he has written several posts here on VJ in regards to denials and returned petitions.

Always be very honest about everything. I wish you and your wife the best.

Thank you a lot for your open minded response , I wish other people wouldn't just judge or think the worest of other people .

I'm going to go for the DV and will refile too , so i would have more than a chance , am just waiting for my wife to come here in a couple of weeks so i could see my newborn little cup and then we would wait 6 months and apply throught the embassy also we can do that sooner because my wife have problems with her heart , she had heart failuer but thank god she is a life. anyways thanks alot for wishing me the best, you too have the best life

[RightClicK 17]

SamOnline

First, let me appologize for this response, it may not help the OP with his situation, except to know, that I sympathize...

I believe America has it benefits,... BUT...

I will admit, Americans are arrogant, and American Policy assumes that E V E R Y O N E wants to live in the USA.. Whether or not statistics support this, I have not met many people from the countries I've been to, that are anxious to leave their country and come live in the USA... There are many places that folks from other countries want to visit.. Most Americans have never left the USA and have no idea what the real life is like in other countries.. We listen to the news about how many illegally immigrate to the USA, but, I am holding back my thoughts about why that is..The fact is that the same Americans that have never travelled abroad, feel that the USA is the only place worth living and they believe that the reason that the immigration problem exists is to take jobs away from USC's.. Americans feel that everyone outside the USA wants to leave their terrible lives and come to the USA... The truth is, Those that believe this, don't have a clue what other cultures truly have to offer.. And those that are adventurist enough realize after spending sometime outside the USA, that there are plenty of places that have plenty of good things to offer..

I am fairly convinced; many immigrate either legally or otherwise, simply out of desperation to be with their loved ones... To me, it should be a slam dunk, that as a USC, if you have family that you want to be with, you should be allowed to be with them, here in the USA.. It should be an inherent right..

Yes, there is the other side of the illegal immigration problem. Which includes those in very bad conditions trying to find a way to care for their families, but that is a completely different problem and not what I am interested in discussing..

I don’t know your entire story, but it seems that there are many that go through great lengths to be with their wife and children, the US doesn't make that easy.. It's sad that the assumption that the USA has is that E V E R Y O N E wants to come to the USA just to get away from their bad lives.. This seems to me, to be the furthest thing from the truth..

My wife is Columbiana, she absolutely did not want to leave her country.. Her family is everything to her.. Her mom, brother, sister, uncles, aunts are all very tight and are always doing things together.. They don’t need much.. They struggle with work to make ends meet, but, the time they have together and the things they do together, makes all those struggles seem worth it because of the wholesomeness, fun, and togetherness they feel each and every day.. Frankly, it seems those things are lost her in our culture..

Americans measure happiness and success by a different standard.. And we may not realize that other cultures have a completely different measure of happiness..

So, your statement about how every assumption is based on Americans feeling that everyone wants to come to the USA, just to take advantage of the American dream is seemingly true... There is a high cost of being allowed to seek that dream.. The problem with that kind of mentality is, that that dream only exists in the minds of Americans, and not something that is real... The fact is, an entrepreneur, you can succeed in any place.. There are countless financially successful people all over the world... And in today’s World-Wide market place, it is possible to achieve that dream regardless of where you live.. SO the issues isn't that people want to come to the USA to take advantage for some obscure, elusive belief of reaching their dreams.. People want to be with their family and be in a position to take care of their family...

My wife's family is in Colombia, her Mom, her Step Dad, and her brother and sister.. They all miss each other tremendously... My wife asked recently about if its possible for her or I to petition for them.. I told her, it isn’t a simple process and certainly no slam dunk.. Even if we were able to, how did she believe they would support themselves.. Her step dad runs a hospital in Colombia, as a Chief Administrator.. It's a good job, her mom runs her own business manufacturing clothes for retailers and has about 25 employees. So, talking to her, I explained what could they do here? They don’t speak English, they have very little chance to have the life here they have there.. She said, she knows, but her family wants to be close to her.. Again, it wasn't about seeking the American Dream, it is about Family... I completely understand that, but explained the process for her to get her mom and the rest of her family here would take years.. It's unfortunate that this is the case..

We absolutely support legal immigration, but it seems like the System is flawed because it is one of the most difficult countries in the world to either visit or immigrate to..

Then there are the cases that are unfairly suspected of fraud or other disqualifying problems..

I really feel for you, and hope you can find a way to be together... But in the end, we do what we can do...

You know what . am really out of words, Your a great understanding man. What upsets me is that i rarely find a good people like you or Ebunoluwa , Even when you speak , You sound educated , the others really sounds ignorant and whats so unfair is that you guys can visit us when ever you want but we can't do the same , that makes me feel that they don't think that we are humans like you . I feel like i want to protest but there aren't many immigrants that have problems here so i mighta protest alone lol. I really wish the best for those people that wishes the best for the other people.

[Golden Gate 530]

SamOnline

First, let me appologize for this response, it may not help the OP with his situation, except to know, that I sympathize...

I believe America has it benefits,... BUT...

I will admit, Americans are arrogant, and American Policy assumes that E V E R Y O N E wants to live in the USA.. Whether or not statistics support this, I have not met many people from the countries I've been to, that are anxious to leave their country and come live in the USA... There are many places that folks from other countries want to visit.. Most Americans have never left the USA and have no idea what the real life is like in other countries.. We listen to the news about how many illegally immigrate to the USA, but, I am holding back my thoughts about why that is..The fact is that the same Americans that have never travelled abroad, feel that the USA is the only place worth living and they believe that the reason that the immigration problem exists is to take jobs away from USC's.. Americans feel that everyone outside the USA wants to leave their terrible lives and come to the USA... The truth is, Those that believe this, don't have a clue what other cultures truly have to offer.. And those that are adventurist enough realize after spending sometime outside the USA, that there are plenty of places that have plenty of good things to offer..

I am fairly convinced; many immigrate either legally or otherwise, simply out of desperation to be with their loved ones... To me, it should be a slam dunk, that as a USC, if you have family that you want to be with, you should be allowed to be with them, here in the USA.. It should be an inherent right..

Yes, there is the other side of the illegal immigration problem. Which includes those in very bad conditions trying to find a way to care for their families, but that is a completely different problem and not what I am interested in discussing..

I don’t know your entire story, but it seems that there are many that go through great lengths to be with their wife and children, the US doesn't make that easy.. It's sad that the assumption that the USA has is that E V E R Y O N E wants to come to the USA just to get away from their bad lives.. This seems to me, to be the furthest thing from the truth..

My wife is Columbiana, she absolutely did not want to leave her country.. Her family is everything to her.. Her mom, brother, sister, uncles, aunts are all very tight and are always doing things together.. They don’t need much.. They struggle with work to make ends meet, but, the time they have together and the things they do together, makes all those struggles seem worth it because of the wholesomeness, fun, and togetherness they feel each and every day.. Frankly, it seems those things are lost her in our culture..

Americans measure happiness and success by a different standard.. And we may not realize that other cultures have a completely different measure of happiness..

So, your statement about how every assumption is based on Americans feeling that everyone wants to come to the USA, just to take advantage of the American dream is seemingly true... There is a high cost of being allowed to seek that dream.. The problem with that kind of mentality is, that that dream only exists in the minds of Americans, and not something that is real... The fact is, an entrepreneur, you can succeed in any place.. There are countless financially successful people all over the world... And in today’s World-Wide market place, it is possible to achieve that dream regardless of where you live.. SO the issues isn't that people want to come to the USA to take advantage for some obscure, elusive belief of reaching their dreams.. People want to be with their family and be in a position to take care of their family...

My wife's family is in Colombia, her Mom, her Step Dad, and her brother and sister.. They all miss each other tremendously... My wife asked recently about if its possible for her or I to petition for them.. I told her, it isn’t a simple process and certainly no slam dunk.. Even if we were able to, how did she believe they would support themselves.. Her step dad runs a hospital in Colombia, as a Chief Administrator.. It's a good job, her mom runs her own business manufacturing clothes for retailers and has about 25 employees. So, talking to her, I explained what could they do here? They don’t speak English, they have very little chance to have the life here they have there.. She said, she knows, but her family wants to be close to her.. Again, it wasn't about seeking the American Dream, it is about Family... I completely understand that, but explained the process for her to get her mom and the rest of her family here would take years.. It's unfortunate that this is the case..

We absolutely support legal immigration, but it seems like the System is flawed because it is one of the most difficult countries in the world to either visit or immigrate to..

Then there are the cases that are unfairly suspected of fraud or other disqualifying problems..

I really feel for you, and hope you can find a way to be together... But in the end, we do what we can do...

[RightClicK 17]

The DV Lottery will not solve your problem.

Your CR-1 was denied for fraud. If you win the DV Lottery, you will still need to show that you did not commit fraud in your CR-1 application.

They basically didn't say it straight up so i don't have to fight it , This is the part am talking about.

II shall be noted. however, that the nominal submission of prima facie evidence may not be sufficient to

establish the bona fides of a claimed relationship. as many of the items simply involve paper documentation

- -- -- that.can.be.easily.set-up .to-make .a..-fraudulent-marnage-appear ..bona-fide such records can be changed and

manipulated within minutes by simply completing and submitting forms to the appropriate administrative

offices. But more important, this type of documentary evidence gives absolutely no insight into the nature

of a claimed relationship, (he level of emotional involvement, or (he day-to-day activities of such

relationship.

Am sorry if it had mistakes, i just copied it from a scanned pdf file.

[Jojo92122 1,924]

We absolutely support legal immigration, but it seems like the System is flawed because it is one of the most difficult countries in the world to either visit or immigrate to..

Then there are the cases that are unfairly suspected of fraud or other disqualifying problems..

I really feel for you, and hope you can find a way to be together... But in the end, we do what we can do...

Hey Kenny,

I like you, but I have to disagree with you on a few things.

People come to the US for all sorts of reasons; some economics, some political, some personal, or a combination of these and other reasons.

I take your words that family is main reason your wife's family wants to move to the US; your wife's family wants to be closer to her. However, in your thread about your wife's family immigrating to the US, you know that it will take years for your wife's family to get to the US; your wife just recently got her conditional green card which means she can't petition for her mom until she gets her US citizenship, and then her mom would need to petition for her husband and children which means mom will be an LPR for 3 years while her family waits in Columbia. If what you say is true about the US system being is flawed and is one of the most difficult countries in the world to visit or immigrate to and not everybody wants to come to the US, then wouldn't it be easier and faster for you to immigrate to Columbia so your wife's family can be reunited and it's only one person immigrating?

There were over a 1,000,000 new LPRs in the US in 2010. That's a lot of people. In fact, the US is the top country for immigration. No other country takes in more immigrants in any year than the US.

I feel bad for people with real marriages who are accused of fraud. Instead of blaming the system for treating these people "unfairly," perhaps the blame should be place on the people who commit marriage fraud for a visa. It is their fraud that causes the US to check every couple who apply for a visa. Unfortunately, innocent couples are caught up in this mess. How would you deal with marriage fraud? How would you keep the fakers out and let the innocent in? I don't see any simple answer except to ask the couple to prove their marriage is real.

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

SamOnline

First, let me appologize for this response, it may not help the OP with his situation, except to know, that I sympathize...

I believe America has it benefits,... BUT...

I will admit, Americans are arrogant, and American Policy assumes that E V E R Y O N E wants to live in the USA.. Whether or not statistics support this, I have not met many people from the countries I've been to, that are anxious to leave their country and come live in the USA... There are many places that folks from other countries want to visit.. Most Americans have never left the USA and have no idea what the real life is like in other countries.. We listen to the news about how many illegally immigrate to the USA, but, I am holding back my thoughts about why that is..The fact is that the same Americans that have never travelled abroad, feel that the USA is the only place worth living and they believe that the reason that the immigration problem exists is to take jobs away from USC's.. Americans feel that everyone outside the USA wants to leave their terrible lives and come to the USA... The truth is, Those that believe this, don't have a clue what other cultures truly have to offer.. And those that are adventurist enough realize after spending sometime outside the USA, that there are plenty of places that have plenty of good things to offer..

I am fairly convinced; many immigrate either legally or otherwise, simply out of desperation to be with their loved ones... To me, it should be a slam dunk, that as a USC, if you have family that you want to be with, you should be allowed to be with them, here in the USA.. It should be an inherent right..

Yes, there is the other side of the illegal immigration problem. Which includes those in very bad conditions trying to find a way to care for their families, but that is a completely different problem and not what I am interested in discussing..

I don’t know your entire story, but it seems that there are many that go through great lengths to be with their wife and children, the US doesn't make that easy.. It's sad that the assumption that the USA has is that E V E R Y O N E wants to come to the USA just to get away from their bad lives.. This seems to me, to be the furthest thing from the truth..

My wife is Columbiana, she absolutely did not want to leave her country.. Her family is everything to her.. Her mom, brother, sister, uncles, aunts are all very tight and are always doing things together.. They don’t need much.. They struggle with work to make ends meet, but, the time they have together and the things they do together, makes all those struggles seem worth it because of the wholesomeness, fun, and togetherness they feel each and every day.. Frankly, it seems those things are lost her in our culture..

Americans measure happiness and success by a different standard.. And we may not realize that other cultures have a completely different measure of happiness..

So, your statement about how every assumption is based on Americans feeling that everyone wants to come to the USA, just to take advantage of the American dream is seemingly true... There is a high cost of being allowed to seek that dream.. The problem with that kind of mentality is, that that dream only exists in the minds of Americans, and not something that is real... The fact is, an entrepreneur, you can succeed in any place.. There are countless financially successful people all over the world... And in today’s World-Wide market place, it is possible to achieve that dream regardless of where you live.. SO the issues isn't that people want to come to the USA to take advantage for some obscure, elusive belief of reaching their dreams.. People want to be with their family and be in a position to take care of their family...

My wife's family is in Colombia, her Mom, her Step Dad, and her brother and sister.. They all miss each other tremendously... My wife asked recently about if its possible for her or I to petition for them.. I told her, it isn’t a simple process and certainly no slam dunk.. Even if we were able to, how did she believe they would support themselves.. Her step dad runs a hospital in Colombia, as a Chief Administrator.. It's a good job, her mom runs her own business manufacturing clothes for retailers and has about 25 employees. So, talking to her, I explained what could they do here? They don’t speak English, they have very little chance to have the life here they have there.. She said, she knows, but her family wants to be close to her.. Again, it wasn't about seeking the American Dream, it is about Family... I completely understand that, but explained the process for her to get her mom and the rest of her family here would take years.. It's unfortunate that this is the case..

We absolutely support legal immigration, but it seems like the System is flawed because it is one of the most difficult countries in the world to either visit or immigrate to..

Then there are the cases that are unfairly suspected of fraud or other disqualifying problems..

I really feel for you, and hope you can find a way to be together... But in the end, we do what we can do...

I love, love, love your post ! You said it, the assumption that everyone wants to come to America is an arrogant assumption and it is ASSumed by many. Refreshing post, I feel you. People are clueless about the ties to culture and family.

[Jojo92122 1,924]

I am fairly convinced; many immigrate either legally or otherwise, simply out of desperation to be with their loved ones... To me, it should be a slam dunk, that as a USC, if you have family that you want to be with, you should be allowed to be with them, here in the USA.. It should be an inherent right..

I completely disagree with this.

My USC father is one of eleven children. His brothers and sisters have tons of kids and grandkids. Should all of them be allowed to immigrate right away???

If yes, then my father would bring his ten brothers and sisters and their 30 to 40 children and about 50-60 grandchildren. No problem with them all coming tomorrow right? So one USC brings in a 100 people.

Also, I am pretty sure my uncles and aunts' spouses wouldn't wait very long after getting their US citizenship in 5 years to bring in their family too. So those ten spouses will file for their families of say 10 people (mom, dad, brother, brother's wife, brother's two children, sister, sister's husband and sister's two children). That's another 200 people.

So in 5 years, a single USC with an "inherent right" to bring family to the US results in 300 additional people. That's crazy.

Since it's an "inherent right," Mr. US Citizen terrorist would like to bring in his brother, Foreign Terrorist. Since he has an "inherent right," can he bring this person in?

On another thread, there are people advocating for removing the numerical limits for LPRs. So one USC can bring in people who would bring in more people who would immediately bring in more people.

While not everybody wants to come to the US, there are lots of people who do. The US cannot absorb all these people immediately. Under the current system, the over 21 years old child, the married child, and siblings of US citizens all have to wait for years. The reason is that immigrants bring in more immigrants.

Look at your family, your wife just got her conditional green card and she wants to bring over her mom, siblings, and stepdad. How many people is stepdad going to file for when he gets here? Will mom file for her siblings?

The US lets in 1,000,000 LPR every year. If we open up the immigration gate to every family member of a USC, then you are looking at doubling, tripling, quad dropping that number. Where would the jobs be for these people? Where would we house them?

[GnBnL 50]

Sorry to hear about your complicated situation! don't have much advice for you. If they found something fraudulent, then I suppose they want to see more evidence in your case. try again I say. Also, start looking into bringing her family there no? good luck!

[kennym 275]

I completely disagree with this.

JoJo, I appreciate your thoughts, but, I think you misunderstood my point.. Honestly, it could be my fault.. I have a terrible capacity to deliver my intended message.. That’s likely the reason I don’t do well in public.. lol…

You have good points, but my primary point is the Attitude of Americans, more than it is about Statistics... You seem fairly knowledgeable about the Immigration Policies, and Offer helpful advice to many, so I don't dispute any of the things you've said..

My wife and I were talking earlier, and I told her, I’m not quite sure the US is the best place for her family,, They would have much more struggle here.. Simply because of their language, they would not feel like they were getting the opportunities they currently have in their home country.. The really ironic thing is, it’s easier for them to immigrate to the US on a family based Visa, then it is to get a tourist Visa.. My wife is very aware, that it is unlikely her mom will ever get to visit here and spend time with her and see how her new life is shaping up here in the USA…

I don’t want to seem like a radical, or extremist, but simply, What my issues relates to is arrogance of many Americans that simply exists because of where they were born... People are no less entitled to being with someone they love simply because they had were born in a different country.. I believe that people from third world countries seem to get the least amount of consideration...

I admit I haven’t had the time or claim to have the expertise, to solve all the complex issues around immigration, so I will just leave it at this.. I believe American Policy is extreme in this area and many good people are left with devastation over CO's with to much latitude to affect people lives.. There needs to be more accountability around the decisions they make and a requirement to justify a denial. Denials and Bans based on CO claims of fraud need to be supported by more than a CO having a bad day or a "gut feeling" and there should be oversight by people that have a better sense of right and wrong, than by CO's that love the power to ruin somebody's life.. I realize that this characterization may be unfair to many, and likely there are many CO's that take their responsibility and the power seriously and don’t simply look for ways to throw their weight around, but you often hear stories of CO's which seemingly abuse their position..

I was amazed by the CO's and the Chief of the IV Section at the Embassy in Colombia.. Absolutely fair and really showed that they cared about the lives of the people they were affecting..

Thankfully, I was blessed with opportunities to explore other places.. While I was on my various adventures, I met some truly wonderful people that are very prideful of where they live and their country.. Many had hoped they could visit the USA.. To many, this is an Intriguing place.. But, it doesn’t mean they want to live here.. I loved to visit the Tar Pits in Los Angeles, but wouldn’t want to live there either.. The point is, these same people that would love to see the USA, also want to see Australia, and Europe, but Americans don’t see that.. I met more outsiders when I travelled to Panama, to Saudi, to Italy, Caribean, Venezueala, There were foreigners from many other countries in these foreign places... more foriegners in those places than foreigners I've seen here in the USA... Canada is an excellent example.. You talk about diversity.. Canada has some parallels to the US, in terms of Immigration, but nowhere near as extreme...

To Americans and American Policy, the measure of integrity is by your bank account.. That's a terrible measure.. Look at the disaster our economy is in because of crooks in powerful places.. Some of the most honest people I know are from poverish countries..

I disagree with your take on my posts.. The point was not to say open the borders, it was to say, somehow Immigration Policy should be more sensitive to uniting families...

[Boiler 45,525]

She has a large close family in Colombia.

Sounds like it was a bad move for her to come here. Perhaps you need to consider moving.

[Boiler 45,525]

For Sam bearing in mind your wife's situation her moving must be the obvious solution.

You just need to focus on making that happen.

[AmyWrites 593]

If you had the time to really read what i said you would know why am applying for a visa , the names wouldn't matter cr1-ir1 or the dv lottery, i want to make it easier for my wife , she can't leave 4 kids there and come live in Egypt , or the cps would take her kids and she can't just abandon them and live here , so since i can move there , im moving there to make it easier for her, just stop thinking for once that everybody wants to live in the US and its the dream land.

I NEVER said or even have thought that "everyone" wants to live in America, quit putting words in my mouth (post). I am an American citizen, and I moved abroad because I wasn't happy in America, and America never was my "dream land" either! How about if you want Americans to stop stereotyping about you, you do the same about Americans? We're not all snobs who think America is the best and that it's a huge benefit for you to move there. In fact I believe many people will be disappointed at finding out how hard life in America can be and that the "American dream" is increasingly only attainable to few and not all; and for immigrants with little language skills and connections, their chances of getting a job, or a decently paying one, are pretty low.

I merely asked why the DV, because frankly it's very difficult to get, and you're better off re-applying for a marriage visa, I think. What might be even more difficult, but easier on your wife maybe, moving to a third country....? And even if you don't want to move to the US, after applying to so many visas, your consulate might think you just want ANY visa to move there.

Edited October 23, 2011 by AmyWrites