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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: United Kingdom
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i've had my interview today at London, my fiancee attended the interview with me, i was called to one of the windows and was asked for I-134, birth certificate, police clearances from uk and from my native country(Lebanon), i gave the lady all the requested documents, and then she gave me the pink courier form and asked me to fill it in while waiting for my number to be called again, we waited forever, all numbers before and after my number were called while we were waiting and finally i've been called to another window where there was an american lady, she gave me a form and asked me to print my fiancee name and sign it n give it back to her,and then took the oath, after that she asked me when did we meet and then she asked how did we get engaged and she wanted my fiancee to answer this question,n then she said how much time did you spend together and i told her the first trip was for 2 weeks and then the second one was for 2 weeks as well and then this was the last trip and she is been with me for 6 months, and after that she said the good news is i'm not gonna ask for any more documents, but you application will go through AP, and then she said this can take from a few weeks to a few months or sometimes it can be longer than that and then i said i'm a student here and i've just finished my course and my visa will expire in 40 days and then she said well give me one second , she went to speak to her colleague next door and then she came back and said i'm sorry but there is nothing i will be able to do to speed up the process, call the UKBA and tell them about your situation. and evatually she was gonna keep my passport but she said well take it with you and i asked her about the pink form and then she said well tear it up, you will have to contact the courier service when your visa is ready. i asked her but are we approved? and then she said, "i can't say you are approved until you received your visa right?"<(sarcastically) and then i said thank you and left with my fiancee in disappointment

what really worry me that she didn't ask for new evidence, even though i prepared many photos of us together plus other evidence, she didn't ask for my passport pictures and she didn't give me form 221g!! did she forget or what?? she was nervous while she was talking to me for some reason. i hope that this AP doesn't take forever

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It sounds like you have enough evidence, but your name may have been a database hit that warrants further checking. It may be mistaken ID or they just want to look into you in detail. If you are not the supervillian that they want then they have enough info for your visa. They will be in touch again either way.

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She didn't need evidence because it was sufficient for your case.

However she told you that you've been put to AP. She doesn't have to give you the 221g for the AP, as seems like everything else is fine. Unfortunately there is not time to on how long the AP can take, it could take from few weeks to whatever. I've heard people being in AP for over a year.

The only thing I can tell you is good luck and hope it will go quick for you.

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what really worry me that she didn't ask for new evidence, even though i prepared many photos of us together plus other evidence, she didn't ask for my passport pictures and she didn't give me form 221g!! did she forget or what?? she was nervous while she was talking to me for some reason. i hope that this AP doesn't take forever

London never asks for evidence of the relationship. Your only problem is being foreign born (not in the UK). They tend to do further security checks called "additional processing." You've done everything correctly. Now you just wait on the security checks. They won't give you any clues about what they are checking or how long it will take. You just have to wait. Here's a list of countries that are often checked:

  • Individuals born in one of the seven countries currently designated as state sponsors of terrorism, Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Libya, North Korea, Sudan, or Syria.
  • Individuals born in one of the “List of 26” countries which the USCIS has not publicized but includes Arab and Muslim countries including: Afghanistan, Algeria, Bahrain, Eritrea, Lebanon, Morocco, North Korea, Oman, Qatar, Somalia, Tunisia, the United Arab Emirates, Yemen, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Bangladesh, Egypt, Indonesia, Jordan, and Kuwait among others.

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4 years, 2 months, 6 days

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London never asks for evidence of the relationship. Your only problem is being foreign born (not in the UK). They tend to do further security checks called "additional processing." You've done everything correctly. Now you just wait on the security checks. They won't give you any clues about what they are checking or how long it will take. You just have to wait. Here's a list of countries that are often checked:

  • Individuals born in one of the seven countries currently designated as state sponsors of terrorism, Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Libya, North Korea, Sudan, or Syria.
  • Individuals born in one of the “List of 26” countries which the USCIS has not publicized but includes Arab and Muslim countries including: Afghanistan, Algeria, Bahrain, Eritrea, Lebanon, Morocco, North Korea, Oman, Qatar, Somalia, Tunisia, the United Arab Emirates, Yemen, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Bangladesh, Egypt, Indonesia, Jordan, and Kuwait among others.

What if your born in a European country with good relations with the US but one of your parents is from one of the countries you mentioned?

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What if your born in a European country with good relations with the US but one of your parents is from one of the countries you mentioned?

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I don't have any experience with that. I've followed London over 3 years and have seen many not born in the UK have AP. Many are not even told that at the interview. They hear "you're approved" then don't get the passport/visa back, so find out their processing is taking longer. I have seen people from Pakistan, India, Australia. For a while (2009) it seemed like anybody not born in the UK got delayed. This year I've seen a south American and Nigerian have no delay so it is not absolutely everybody. I guess if your parent's name was exactly that of a suspected terrorist, they might investigate further to make sure your family member is not the one they are watching. It's all speculation because the US govt won't divulge their security details. They wouldn't tell you "we have an undercover operation watching a man named Johnny Jonas so since that's your father's name...." That would be compromising their investigation. It's all a bit secretive, so they don't give reasons or timelines of when to expect to be finished.

England.gifENGLAND ---

K-1 Timeline 4 months, 19 days 03-10-08 VSC to 7-29-08 Interview London

10-05-08 Married

AOS Timeline 5 months, 14 days 10-9-08 to 3-23-09 No interview

Removing Conditions Timeline 5 months, 20 days12-27-10 to 06-10-11 No interview

Citizenship Timeline 3 months, 26 days 12-31-11 Dallas to 4-26-12 Interview Houston

05-16-12 Oath ceremony

The journey from Fiancé to US citizenship:

4 years, 2 months, 6 days

243 pages of forms/documents submitted

No RFEs

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: United Kingdom
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Thanks guys, i really appreciate your replies!

i just realized that she didn't ask for form DS-230 part II !! is that normal as well ? are they gonna ask for it with the passport when AP is over?? as i know the CO should help me to fill it in, how is she supposed to help me doing so if i'm not gonna have another interview? did it happen to anyone before? and as i've seen on VJ that most people who got AP, they have been told that they are approved on the interview day, why wasn't i told so? sorry for all the questions but they're all hanging around our heads.

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Thanks guys, i really appreciate your replies!

i just realized that she didn't ask for form DS-230 part II !! is that normal as well ? are they gonna ask for it with the passport when AP is over?? as i know the CO should help me to fill it in, how is she supposed to help me doing so if i'm not gonna have another interview? did it happen to anyone before? and as i've seen on VJ that most people who got AP, they have been told that they are approved on the interview day, why wasn't i told so? sorry for all the questions but they're all hanging around our heads.

DS-230 Part 2 is never, ever needed from a K1 visa applicant. It's for other visas like Spouse CR1/IR1. You would only do Part 1 which is page 1-2 of the four pages. If you had been missing any paperwork, they would have listed what else they needed so you could get it in.

Why weren't you told approved? Maybe the lady was more efficient and knew it's not over 'til it's over since you aren't actually approved yet. Maybe Lebanon is a big red flag of a country always checked through AP. Maybe the others who were told approved were later flagged for additional screening by a supervisor. Nobody knows because every case is different. We on VJ haven't read every word in your files, so we certainly can't guess beyond you were born in Lebanon because non-UK born are often given Additional Processing.

England.gifENGLAND ---

K-1 Timeline 4 months, 19 days 03-10-08 VSC to 7-29-08 Interview London

10-05-08 Married

AOS Timeline 5 months, 14 days 10-9-08 to 3-23-09 No interview

Removing Conditions Timeline 5 months, 20 days12-27-10 to 06-10-11 No interview

Citizenship Timeline 3 months, 26 days 12-31-11 Dallas to 4-26-12 Interview Houston

05-16-12 Oath ceremony

The journey from Fiancé to US citizenship:

4 years, 2 months, 6 days

243 pages of forms/documents submitted

No RFEs

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: United Kingdom
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Thanks guys, i really appreciate your replies!

i just realized that she didn't ask for form DS-230 part II !! is that normal as well ? are they gonna ask for it with the passport when AP is over?? as i know the CO should help me to fill it in, how is she supposed to help me doing so if i'm not gonna have another interview? did it happen to anyone before? and as i've seen on VJ that most people who got AP, they have been told that they are approved on the interview day, why wasn't i told so? sorry for all the questions but they're all hanging around our heads.

hi same thing happened to my fiance.his interview was on feb 9th/2012.could you please update me about your case?please please please

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