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It is an oath to tell the truth. Alla had her interview and all discussions in Russian. She repeated the oath in English. If you do not state the oath you do not get an interview. She was not "denied" she had no interview. make another interview date and go back.

Yes. At our interview both my fiancee and I had to raise our right hands and swear to tell the truth. But I thik all we said was "I do" or "I will".

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: India
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There is a Oath, that every information provided has been true to the best knowledge of the person.

If they cannot receite that then visa is not going to approved.

If in future ever they found out someone knowingly lied on the form then they can be prosecuted for lieing under the Oath.

In Most cases this would not be a show stopper as most embassy where English is not the primary language they would have translator on hand and one they would translate the Oath as well as any question for the applicant and CO.

This case as said earlier had few other things that did not seem right like no regular communication and no visit in 14 months are major red flags.

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Ah - yeah - that makes sense.

strange they wouldn't ask it in Russian. (sorry, the firefox line "think Russian" keeps popping into my mind) -

Bobby, it was more than three years ago :dance: and to be honest I do not remember. I DO remember alla said she wanted to answer all questions in Russian, and she said this in Russian. We really had no questions in our interview and I remember her taking the oath (she thought it was really wierd) :lol:

she is here, I will ask her if she remembers.

I asked her "Alla do you remember in Kiev you had to take that oath and raise your hand?"

Oh, yeah.

"Did you take the oath in Russian or English?"

:huh: Are you kidding me?

She doesn't remember either, but I do recall it was a very simple thing.

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Yes. At our interview both my fiancee and I had to raise our right hands and swear to tell the truth. But I thik all we said was "I do" or "I will".

I think it was like this also, but it is a cloudy memory so do not want to say for sure. I did not have to take it, only Alla, but I was standing right there with her.

I just do not see Kiev rejecting a visa for this. Very strange. All the people there speak Ukrainian and Russian so #######?

The other circumstances or what Baron mentioned could be in play here. It just is not something to get all worried about really.

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Bobby, it was more than three years ago :dance: and to be honest I do not remember. I DO remember alla said she wanted to answer all questions in Russian, and she said this in Russian. We really had no questions in our interview and I remember her taking the oath (she thought it was really wierd) :lol:

she is here, I will ask her if she remembers.

I asked her "Alla do you remember in Kiev you had to take that oath and raise your hand?"

Oh, yeah.

"Did you take the oath in Russian or English?"

:huh: Are you kidding me?

She doesn't remember either, but I do recall it was a very simple thing.

Gary & Alla,

Thanks for clarifying what type of oath we are talking about. :)

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its indeed weird if someone's can't communicate precisely English will be denied if you don't know english

there is another option to be interviewed by a Local guy an interpreter is provided well in my case my Fiancee

is a Petitioner she Transfer me money alot of times since 2011 i'm Beneficiary and i'm also bit distracted

not including the Money transfer receipt even though i never sent her money do you think it should be a problem

for me to provide them on the time of Interview

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I have seen and read of people who had to provide evidence of speaking the same language whether it's English or foreign language. If it's not established before the interview then it might provide IO enough reason for denying the visa.

K1 process, October 2010 > POE, July 2011

I-129F approved in 180 days from NOA1 date. (195 days from filing to NOA2 in hand)

Interview took 224 days from I-129F NOA1 date. (241 days from filing petition until visa in hand)

From filing I-129F petition until POE: 285 days

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AOS process, December 2011 > July 2012

EAD/AP Approval took 51 days from NOA1 date to email update. (77 days from filing until EAD/AP in hand)

AOS Approval took 206 days from NOA1 date to email update. (231 days from filing until greencard in hand)

From filing I-129F petition until greencard in hand: 655 days

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Kiev is considered an easy Embassy and they have plenty of COs that speak English or Russian or Ukrainian.

Everyone takes an oath to tell the truth.

So getting denied because she wouldn't do it in English just sounds fishy. That was not a cause for denial.

Unless there was other reasons uncovered during the interview for denial, that sounds like a made up tale.

As I stated before, we've seen similar made up tales that vetted out to be untrue....the fiance in those cases just never went to the interview but told this tale to the petitioner.

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It is an oath to tell the truth, it was given to her by the guy collecting documents

"I, (name) promise to tell the truth" basically.

Kiev has never made much of an issue of a common language, not that I have heard anyway. Review the Ukraine consulate reviews.

We had that too. If she didn't say ''YES I PROMISE'' then it might be the problem. But it seems like there's more than that going on.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Armenia
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OP - no disrespect intended, but I am in a cynical mood today (ok, most days), but I think you should dig a little deeper here and try to get some independent confirmation of what really went on. This doesn't make any sense; as others have said, the Kiev embassy has a fairly good reputation.

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I have seen and read of people who had to provide evidence of speaking the same language whether it's English or foreign language. If it's not established before the interview then it might provide IO enough reason for denying the visa.

But you did not see that for people interviewing in Kiev.

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Yep there's an oath. It's about a paragraph long. I didn't have to recite it, I just had to hold up my right hand and agree. It went something like this:

Interviewer: "So who are you going to marry?... oh #######, I forgot I have to read you an oath. Okay, don't repeat this, you just have to agree at the end okay?"

Me: "okay"

Interviewer: *Reads the oath thing*

Me: "Yes, I promise I'll tell the truth"

Interviewer: "No, no, no... Just say 'I do'.. It's good practice."

Me: *laughs* "I do!"

My interview was sooooooo informal though. The guy stopped half way to compliment how great my teeth were. It was bizarre. I wanted to say "you do know I'm here for a FIANCEE visa???" lol... :blush:

That said, it wouldn't surprise me if they made other people repeat it back.

Sidenote: Couldn't she just take a translator to read her the oath in her own language?

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But you did not see that for people interviewing in Kiev.

No.

While it's unlikely, it's still not impossible to think that it has never happened in Kiev. It hasn't happened in Denmark either (to the best of my knowledge)but I'm sure it could happen if a beneficiary with very poor English skills sat down at the interview and didn't know whether to say "i do" or "i don't" to the oath. It might raise more than an eyebrow.

K1 process, October 2010 > POE, July 2011

I-129F approved in 180 days from NOA1 date. (195 days from filing to NOA2 in hand)

Interview took 224 days from I-129F NOA1 date. (241 days from filing petition until visa in hand)

From filing I-129F petition until POE: 285 days

Click timeline or "about me" for all details.

AOS process, December 2011 > July 2012

EAD/AP Approval took 51 days from NOA1 date to email update. (77 days from filing until EAD/AP in hand)

AOS Approval took 206 days from NOA1 date to email update. (231 days from filing until greencard in hand)

From filing I-129F petition until greencard in hand: 655 days

Click timeline or "about me" for all details.

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Kiev is considered an easy Embassy and they have plenty of COs that speak English or Russian or Ukrainian.

Everyone takes an oath to tell the truth.

So getting denied because she wouldn't do it in English just sounds fishy. That was not a cause for denial.

Unless there was other reasons uncovered during the interview for denial, that sounds like a made up tale.

As I stated before, we've seen similar made up tales that vetted out to be untrue....the fiance in those cases just never went to the interview but told this tale to the petitioner.

The more I read of this, the more I have to go with you on this one Baron. It sniffs of a scam much more than anything else. Your first question was a good one. How much was this guy sending her every month? What are her plans? Let me guess..."I veel learn to speak of zis English more better" and then go back for another interview? Extend the petition for four months? Send money for an English tutor?

This oath thing is just such a non-issue.

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