N600 for my Child... HELP!

[rstyle 2]

Hi to all,

Here my situation, I got my USC July/2008 my son was born Aug./2008 in UK. We didnt apply for the report birth abroad for my son at US embassy in UK. lived in UK for 2 years, we visit US last march and decided to stay here for good. so ive read that i can apply for my son passport since im already USC when he was born, making my son qualified as US citizen. I mailed my son passport application with all the documents needed. (even called and ask what documents do they need). mailed it 3rd week of JUNE. after 2 letters from the passport center requesting to fill out and notarized a form. my wife received a call 2 days ago. they saying that they cant processes my son passport because i need to apply for N600 for my son. also my son entered US with a British passport.

Am I going to have a problem applying for N600 for my son?

Thanks! i will appreciate any help.

[nwctzn 55]

Hi to all,

Here my situation, I got my USC July/2008 my son was born Aug./2008 in UK. We didnt apply for the report birth abroad for my son at US embassy in UK. lived in UK for 2 years, we visit US last march and decided to stay here for good. so ive read that i can apply for my son passport since im already USC when he was born, making my son qualified as US citizen. I mailed my son passport application with all the documents needed. (even called and ask what documents do they need). mailed it 3rd week of JUNE. after 2 letters from the passport center requesting to fill out and notarized a form. my wife received a call 2 days ago. they saying that they cant processes my son passport because i need to apply for N600 for my son. also my son entered US with a British passport.

Am I going to have a problem applying for N600 for my son?

Thanks! i will appreciate any help.

Did you send in your naturalization certificate with your son's passport application? As far as I know it is sufficient if you send in your naturalization certificate and his birth certificate.

[NickD 203]

One of the functions is for a child born abroad from one or two parents that is a US citizen, so shouldn't be a problem. But don't understand why the DOS rejected you, first time I have ever heard of the DOS telling a US citizen they must apply for the N-600 first. Heard about requesting for DNA evidence to make sure that child is yours. Should have given you a reason for being rejected. At times you have to call your senators office for help.

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

In most cases an N-600 is not necessary, but if the Department of State is not happy with the way you handled this, meaning failing to file for CRBA, entering the U.S. with a wrong passport, all in blunt violation to U.S. laws, etc., then they have the right to say: "listen, Missy, time to get your sh*t together; now we demand that you get that sorted out and bring us a Certificate of Citizenship"

It's like a self-inflicted wound, and since it's not life-threatening, they won't treat it before you pay.

It's $600 for the N-600. Easy to remember. Ka-ching!

Edited October 20, 2011 by Brother Hesekiel

[rstyle 2]

Thanks for all the REPLY,

I understand that its our fault for not knowing that we need to file CRBA when my son was born. But before we apply for the passport i called DOS and tell them that i dont have CRBA, then they gave me a list of documents that i need to submit along with the passport application. I have all what they want so i mailed it to them with the application.

Is there an amount of time need of me being a USC for my son to be qualified as US citizen too?

Am i going to have a problem with the N600 application? (based on my situation)

I remember the first time we visited US, the officer at the US immigration(air port) told me that i can apply for a US passport for my son because im a USC.

I guess they really Need the 600... i mean the N600.LOL!

Thanks again!

[Jojo92122 1,924]

Thanks for all the REPLY,

I understand that its our fault for not knowing that we need to file CRBA when my son was born. But before we apply for the passport i called DOS and tell them that i dont have CRBA, then they gave me a list of documents that i need to submit along with the passport application. I have all what they want so i mailed it to them with the application.

Is there an amount of time need of me being a USC for my son to be qualified as US citizen too?

Am i going to have a problem with the N600 application? (based on my situation)

I remember the first time we visited US, the officer at the US immigration(air port) told me that i can apply for a US passport for my son because im a USC.

I guess they really Need the 600... i mean the N600.LOL!

Thanks again!

How long had you lived in the US by the time you had your child? Did you spend at least 5 years living in the US before your child's birth?

[nwctzn 55]

Thanks for all the REPLY,

I understand that its our fault for not knowing that we need to file CRBA when my son was born. But before we apply for the passport i called DOS and tell them that i dont have CRBA, then they gave me a list of documents that i need to submit along with the passport application. I have all what they want so i mailed it to them with the application.

Is there an amount of time need of me being a USC for my son to be qualified as US citizen too?

Am i going to have a problem with the N600 application? (based on my situation)

I remember the first time we visited US, the officer at the US immigration(air port) told me that i can apply for a US passport for my son because im a USC.

I guess they really Need the 600... i mean the N600.LOL!

Thanks again!

You should not have a problem in getting the N600 for your son. However, as I asked before, did you submit your certificate of naturalization with your son's passport application? I think your certificate of naturalization should be sufficient together with the UK birth certificate to get him his US passport. I am trying to save you the $600 and going through the hassle of an N600 application since it will take some significant time before you receive that.

Edited October 20, 2011 by nwctzn

[rstyle 2]

@jojo92122. 5 1/2 years as green card holder.(came here Dec.2002 & my son was born Aug.2008) I did travel outside the US..total of 4 times & all less than a month.

@NWCTZN Yes, I did submit my original USC certificate, my son UK passport, my son UK birth certificate, my Certified Marriage license.

If im going to file N600 for my son I guess i need to wait after im done with my wife petition as we are in the middle of it.

[NickD 203]

Nothing like dealing with two different government agencies for the same thing. What this does do, is to give them the option to pass the buck. We are going through that now with a petition for my stepson, but not two, three, the USCIS, the DOS, and the NVC. Man, are they passing the buck on us.

Is there an I-94 restriction on your son? This I know nothing about with the UK, hell I just hired a first class immigration attorney when I brought my girls here, was way too much for me with my job and all that. Was told to watch that I-94 like a hawk, can be in deep trouble if they were to overstay their visas. But after the applications were sent in and we received the NOA's, was told we were okay, but still had to wait another eleven months for the AOS.

Just pointing this out for you to look into by delaying your N-600 application, may or may not be a problem. But do know, you don't want anymore problems.

[hikergirl 277]

I did find this on the Department of State website under Secondary evidence if you don't have a CRBA:

Foreign Birth Documents + Parent(s) Citizenship Evidence

If you claim citizenship through birth abroad to U.S. citizen parent(s), but cannot submit a Consular Report of Birth Abroad or Certification of Birth, you must submit all of the following:

1. Your foreign birth certificate (translated to English)

2. Evidence of citizenship of your U.S. citizen parent

3. Your parents' marriage certificate

4. An statement of your U.S. citizen parent detailing all periods and places of residence or physical presence in the United States and abroad before your birth

I'm not sure if it will help you or not, but best of luck either way.

[nwctzn 55]

I did find this on the Department of State website under Secondary evidence if you don't have a CRBA:

I'm not sure if it will help you or not, but best of luck either way.

Looks like they submitted 1,2, and 3 but still were required a COC. Anyway, on the long run it is always good to have one additional proof/document of citizenship other than the parent's naturalization certificate.

Edited October 23, 2011 by nwctzn

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

Your son is a U.S. citizen.

The N-600 is not a process giving citizenship, but an application to certify a fact.

CERBA = free

N-600 = $600.

[Jojo92122 1,924]

Your son is a U.S. citizen.

The N-600 is not a process giving citizenship, but an application to certify a fact.

CERBA = free

N-600 = $600.

What's a CERBA? Do you mean CRBA? A CRBA cannot be filed in the US.

The child is in the US. There are generally only two ways to get proof of US citizenship; a US passport or the certificate of citizenship (N-600).

[NickD 203]

What's a CERBA? Do you mean CRBA? A CRBA cannot be filed in the US.

The child is in the US. There are generally only two ways to get proof of US citizenship; a US passport or the certificate of citizenship (N-600).

I hate abbreviations for this reason, they are like a new meaningless word, ha, even met people in my own field that use abbreviations for years and not even know what those letters stand for.

"In order to determine whether you can pass citizenship to your child, you are required to make an appointment with the Consular Officer, to file an application for a Consular Report of Birth Abroad (CRBA), which is an official record confirming that the child acquired U.S. citizenship at birth. You and your child must appear in person. It is not possible to obtain a CRBA for a child over the age of 18."

Would have been so much easier to do that at the time, if you only knew about it! That is a the major problem with 1,525 different governmental agencies, each with their own regulations that your congressman doesn't even know a damn thing about.

Went to my next door neighbors party Saturday night, a goodbye party. sending him to Bosnia to maintain peace there, is in the National Guard, first question was, why aren't they sending you to Milwaukee instead? Has the highest murder rate in the country. But met many new neighbors asking me questions about my wife. Just said, went through the paces with the USCIS. What is the USCIS? Ha, even forgot what that stood for, United States Citizenship and Immigration Services, always forget that C stands for citizenship. Use to be the INS that stood for Immigration and Naturalization Service that went way back to 1891. With 111 years under their belt, knew how to compose a comprehensible form, but all that changed with Homeland Security. Also formed CBP and ICE in the process, to really confuse us.

If Bush paid attention in class instead of getting drunk every night, would have known we didn't have this communication problem between the FBI and the CIA for 9/11 with the onset of WW II, we only had the FBI at that time. They didn't catch terrorists, was no terrorists at that time, but saboteurs. What caused the communication problem was forming the CIA for jurisdiction problems that was done well after WW II. If Bush had any brains, would have dumped the CIA, but instead creates a whole new bunch of law enforcement agencies to really have a communication problem.

Now we are dealing with the USCIS, the DOS, and the NVC with a bunch of buck passing to bring my stepson here, and does SS stand for Social Security or Selective Service? What a mess these current crop of draft dodgers caused for MY country. No wonder why we can make mistakes.

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

What's a CERBA? Do you mean CRBA? A CRBA cannot be filed in the US.

The child is in the US. There are generally only two ways to get proof of US citizenship; a US passport or the certificate of citizenship (N-600).

Yes. CERBA is my little brain-bridge and sometimes I just write it incorrectly. The O.P. failed to file for CRBA, brought her son to the U.S. with a foreign passport, and since the DoS now requires a CoC she has no other choice than spending $600 on an N-600.

CRBA would have been cheaper.