TX HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS MADE TO RECITE MEXICAN NATIONAL ANTHEM, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE

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I tried to edit my post. It wouldn't be 1900, but it would win. Spanish in Spain is very different. I did live in Barcelona for 4 months, thus the reason I can understand people from Spain. Most people who have been raised in the US who learned spanish in high school, college etc would have a difficult time trying to talk on the phone with someone from Spain... but most people from South America would understand someone from Spain, easier than Mexico simply due to all the slang Mexicans have incorporated into their language.

Just read your post. Spanish taught in Guatemala is much better than Mexico's in my opinion. Further, the dialect is much more clean and spoken in a way that many can understand them. Fact is, many Mexican men are very difficult for many (outside of Mexico) to understand. they speak very rapidly and make words up (slang) which makes them non-understandable at times.

I have not been to Puerto Rico, but the others listed... Peru, Nicaragua, Panama, Venezuela, Spain, and Argentina are all a better spanish than Mexico's.

I asked my wife about 15 minutes ago the same question (who speaks the worst) and she said Peru!!!

Then Nicaragua/Panama/Guatemala....

I always found the Puerto Ricans to speak really fast and I think it's bad Spanish!

Spain - The original - most authenticate...But the slurring and the vosotros is not that great.

Argentina - Vosotros....And they pronounce yo as Joe and llama as Jamma.....

I'm not sure your analysis is correct considering there are 110 million Mexicans. I'd imagine Nicaraguans think their Spanish is best and Venezuelans think theirs is best.

But it would be interesting to see a survey on what each country thought...

Edited October 19, 2011 by Ready to do it

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I have not been to Puerto Rico or Argentina, but the others listed... Peru, Nicaragua, Panama, Venezuela, and Spain are all a better spanish than Mexico's.... and me being 100% gringo for generations with no one in my family that can tell you what "hola" means am pretty unbiased... except when it comes to Colombianas... they win hands down

I tried to edit my post. It wouldn't be 1900, but it would win. Spanish in Spain is very different. I did live in Barcelona for 4 months, thus the reason I can understand people from Spain. Most people who have been raised in the US who learned spanish in high school, college etc would have a difficult time trying to talk on the phone with someone from Spain... but most people from South America would understand someone from Spain, easier than Mexico simply due to all the slang Mexicans have incorporated into their language.

Just read your post. Spanish taught in Guatemala is much better than Mexico's in my opinion. Further, the dialect is much more clean and spoken in a way that many can understand them. Fact is, many Mexican men are very difficult for many (outside of Mexico) to understand. they speak very rapidly and make words up (slang) which makes them non-understandable at times.

I have not been to Puerto Rico, but the others listed... Peru, Nicaragua, Panama, Venezuela, Spain, and Argentina are all a better spanish than Mexico's.

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You get answers across the board. As seen here in the Yahoo Respuestas Espana forums:

http://es.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090120171526AAfXIje

http://es.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070613124611AAuIxm8

http://es.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070622211030AASoieV

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Here's an unbiased answer. Says he is from Puerto Rico and votes himself as the worst!

el acento no tiene nada q ver, eso es lo q identifica a cada nacionalidad. Yo vivo en PUERTO RICO y puedo decirte q los puertorriqueños hablan el peor español de todo america

quieren ser muy americanos sin abandonar sus raices y mezclan las palabras... no tiene nada d malo inventarselas pero ROBAR PALABRAS EN INGLES PARA PONERLE TERMINACIONES EN ESPAñol! eso si es un asco ademas q se comen las letras cambian la R por la J y no pronuncian la s ... una verguenza para la lengua !

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Yeah... I'm talking about the spanish speakers that actually live in the US. I used that as a model simply because most spanish speakers that live in the US communicate daily with spanish speakers that came from other countries. While, if you ask someone from Venezuela the only Spanish speakers someone from Venezuela has ever talked to are probably from only Venezuela and Colombia (assuming they live west of Caracas).

I wouldn't be surprised if Puerto Rican Spanish is the worst, they do have some great singers though.

Here's an unbiased answer. Says he is from Puerto Rico and votes himself as the worst!

el acento no tiene nada q ver, eso es lo q identifica a cada nacionalidad. Yo vivo en PUERTO RICO y puedo decirte q los puertorriqueños hablan el peor español de todo america

quieren ser muy americanos sin abandonar sus raices y mezclan las palabras... no tiene nada d malo inventarselas pero ROBAR PALABRAS EN INGLES PARA PONERLE TERMINACIONES EN ESPAñol! eso si es un asco ademas q se comen las letras cambian la R por la J y no pronuncian la s ... una verguenza para la lengua !

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Yeah... I'm talking about the spanish speakers that actually live in the US. I used that as a model simply because most spanish speakers that live in the US communicate daily with spanish speakers that came from other countries. While, if you ask someone from Venezuela the only Spanish speakers someone from Venezuela has ever talked to are probably from only Venezuela and Colombia (assuming they live west of Caracas).

I wouldn't be surprised if Puerto Rican Spanish is the worst, they do have some great singers though.

Then I'd agree with you too. Born and raised in the US, American friends, speak English all day, completely fluent in English....But they have native Spanish speaking parents.

And the result is they can speak ok Spanish but they write terrible.

Obviously way worse than a native born Spanish speaker. Parents, friends, tv, radio, school - all in Spanish.

[TBoneTX 46,443]

If someone said the word "pelo" in South America and was trying to refer to the hair on their head you'd get a blank stare.

Mrs. T-B. says pelo for all hair, si man.

[TBoneTX 46,443]

I asked my wife about 15 minutes ago the same question (who speaks the worst) and she said Peru!!!

Then Nicaragua/Panama/Guatemala....

I always found the Puerto Ricans to speak really fast and I think it's bad Spanish!

Spain - The original - most authenticate...But the slurring and the vosotros is not that great.

Argentina - Vosotros....And they pronounce yo as Joe and llama as Jamma.....

I'm not sure your analysis is correct considering there are 110 million Mexicans. I'd imagine Nicaraguans think their Spanish is best and Venezuelans think theirs is best.

But it would be interesting to see a survey on what each country thought about who speaks the worst...I don't think it's Mexico but could be wrong..

It would be interesting, si man. I once asked a Colombiana that question; she said that Argentinian Spanish is the funniest because it sounds so Italian, and that Puerto Rican Spanish is probably the worst because they mix in too much English. Mrs. T-B. agrees with the Argentinian = Italian and the Puerto Rican = much English, but she doesn't rank any of the dialects from best to worst.

In response to an earlier observation, Mrs. T-B. was amazed that she didn't need to speak a word of English when I took her on a tour of several Texas/Mexico border cities, no man.

Edit: In the "Moving Here" forum is a lively thread on the various differences in Central & South American Spanish. Perhaps some here would like to contribute there, si man:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/332542-language-differences-and-communication-woes/page__st__75

Edited October 19, 2011 by TBoneTX

[Golden Gate 530]

And the Indians before them.

Mexicans have Native American in them...Mine are Mayan...and before that they were the Olmec.

Edited October 19, 2011 by Golden Gate

[Nica_In_Love 98]

I guess I can see people getting mad over this because of the whole illegal immigration problems. I'm from Nicaragua and I grew up singing both the Nicaraguan & U.S. National Anthems because I went to a private "American" school my entire life (in Managua). Nothing wrong with learning the American culture and singing the anthem of a country that is not mine for as long as I can remember, right? In this case, these kids are only taking one class or two for electives, I really doubt they're being brainwashed. I also took 5 levels of French at the Alliance Francaise in Nicaragua and we learned (or tried - I can't remember a word) France's National Anthem.

In regards to learning about Mexico and not any other country, well, you can't hide the fact that the grand majority of Hispanics in the U.S. are from Mexico or have Mexican roots. I, personally, dislike being referred to as a "Mexican", but then again I feel I can't blame them since it's probably the first time they're meeting somebody from Nicaragua.

Talking about Spanish, I totally dislike the way Mexicans speak it.

[TBoneTX 46,443]

Talking about Spanish, I totally dislike the way Mexicans speak it.

Do Mexicans speak better (or worse) depending on which region of Mexico they're from? Just curious, si man. Example: natives of upstate New York tend to talk quite differently than do natives of the Bronx. Edited October 19, 2011 by TBoneTX

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Do Mexicans speak better (or worse) depending on which region of Mexico they're from? Just curious, si man. Example: natives of upstate New York tend to talk quite differently than do natives of the Bronx.

The ones that speak the worst live on the coasts and in the south.

Guerrero (Acapulco is in this state), Oaxaca, Chiapas are the poorest states (Chiapas I believe is by far the poorest). They speak the worst. And there are a lot of indigenous in Chiapas (only place in Mexico with an indigenous majority). It's the southern most state with Oaxaca (wah-ha-ca) and Guerrero to the west...

Edited October 19, 2011 by Lord Infamous

[Nica_In_Love 98]

Do Mexicans speak better (or worse) depending on which region of Mexico they're from? Just curious, si man. Example: natives of upstate New York tend to talk quite differently than do natives of the Bronx.

I honestly have no idea

[Ready to do it 101]

Oh, stop me from dreaming. Oaxaca coast is beautiful... Huatulco, Puerto Escondido, etc. I haven't been there in about a decade, but I absolutely love the Southern Pacific coast of Mexico.

The ones that speak the worst live on the coasts and in the south.

Guerrero (Acapulco is in this state), Oaxaca, Chiapas are the poorest states (Chiapas I believe is by far the poorest). They speak the worst. And there are a lot of indigenous in Chiapas (only place in Mexico with an indigenous majority). It's the southern most state with Oaxaca (wah-ha-ca) and Guerrero to the west...

[Mononoke28 137]

I have not been to Puerto Rico or Argentina, but the others listed... Peru, Nicaragua, Panama, Venezuela, and Spain are all a better spanish than Mexico's.... and me being 100% gringo for generations with no one in my family that can tell you what "hola" means am pretty unbiased... except when it comes to Colombianas... they win hands down

I personally think the reason why the US has so many Mexicans who speak horrible Spanish is because many of them didn't receive a good education and speak the language the way their families taught them which again is uneducated. This means that it will trickle down to their children living here in the US, so it's not rare to see a highly educated Mexican-American speaking a low level/ignorant type of Spanish. If you have doubts just listen to any interview in Spanish with Los Angeles mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, it is horrendous but at the same time I applaud his efforts. As far as the Spanish spoken in Mexico, it all depends who you're speaking to, I've had the pleasure of talking to people from Mexico City who speak eloquently and who rarely butcher the language, same with people from Guadalajara.

But the question still remains, where is the best Spanish spoken? The majority of people say Colombia and I'm not saying this to be biased but based on what many others have said. Most Colombians make sure they pronounce every letter and make good use of the language the way it's supposed to. Now again, it all depends where you go in Colombia but for the most part the language is highly respected and spoken well in that country.

En Colombia se habla el mejor español, dice la Real Academia

Diana

Edited October 19, 2011 by Mononoke28