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They still don't have a figurehead leader or any centralized organization. But they have recieved media training, thanks to Koch Industries. They know that if you get an undesireable element within your rally, you just shout them out.

Q: Does it take media training to shout offensive people down, is so maybe thats why for the most part the "occupy" crowd allowed these people to speak nearly unchallenged.

IN NC alone there are probably 50 differnt tea party groups are you suggesting Koch Bros. has infiltrated and trained the thousands of Tea party groups across the country, and that is what has kept the loons out

(for the most part)?

No people who plan the events police the crowds.

I was at one tea party event and this guy showed up in a Confederate Uniform, complete with confederate flag over his shoulder, one of the organizers approached him and asked him to leave because his apparent statement of rebelling against the growth of Govt, could be easily seen as or misconstrued as something racial.

I don't believe for a minute the Occupy crowds are without leadership or that disconnected, the biggest evidence of that is how a protest against bail-outs ..... omits the KING OF BAIL OUTS, Obama.

Who else could you more blame or accuse of bailing out, Banks, Wall Street, FAnny, GM, you name it, Obama was either right there or instrumental in it's passage.

His name should be on every sign down there, but it hardly is.

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Q: Does it take media training to shout offensive people down, is so maybe thats why for the most part the "occupy" crowd allowed these people to speak nearly unchallenged.

Seems like common sense, but to coordinate a group of people to do it, yes, it does require a bit of training. Are you really so naive as to deny all the money, training, and support that the koch brothers provide to the various tea party groups?

IN NC alone there are probably 50 differnt tea party groups are you suggesting Koch Bros. has infiltrated and trained the thousands of Tea party groups across the country, and that is what has kept the loons out

(for the most part)?

Infiltrated? Danno, you sound as if you are still under the delusion that the tea party movement was a spontaneous swell of sentiment. It wasn't, the koch brothers have spent $100m on grooming tea party groups to their message.

No people who plan the events police the crowds.

Danno, if you think there are no police at tea party events, you are either lying, or not very observant person.

I was at one tea party event and this guy showed up in a Confederate Uniform, complete with confederate flag over his shoulder, one of the organizers approached him and asked him to leave because his apparent statement of rebelling against the growth of Govt, could be easily seen as or misconstrued as something racial.

Funny, the tea party rally that I was near and walked past, there were several members screaming racial slurs at any person (ignorantly) perceived to be a foreigner or immigrant. Is this indicative of all tea party rallies? NO, is your story indicative of anything beyond a moment in time? No.

I don't believe for a minute the Occupy crowds are without leadership or that disconnected, the biggest evidence of that is how a protest against bail-outs ..... omits the KING OF BAIL OUTS, Obama.

Nothing would convince you otherwise, you are blinded by your own religious, hyperpartisan politics Danno, so I won't even try.

Who else could you more blame or accuse of bailing out, Banks, Wall Street, FAnny, GM, you name it, Obama was either right there or instrumental in it's passage.

His name should be on every sign down there, but it hardly is.

The names of those who caused it should be too. Bush started bailouts, and Obama continued them. I think there needed to be a bailout, but there should have been strings attached.

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Seems like common sense, but to coordinate a group of people to do it, yes, it does require a bit of training. Are you really so naive as to deny all the money, training, and support that the koch brothers provide to the various tea party groups?

There may have been money in some places but the disorganization of the TEA PARTY is what I marveled at, especially in the beginning, in fact I couldn't even find a decent website to get info, it was alike emails being forwarded, if you weren't on the list Oh-well.

Infiltrated? Danno, you sound as if you are still under the delusion that the tea party movement was a spontaneous swell of sentiment. It wasn't, the koch brothers have spent $100m on grooming tea party groups to their message.

SInce you are convinced that the Koch Bro. went around to all these disconnected 10-20 member groups .... no sense debating it.

Danno, if you think there are no police at tea party events, you are either lying, or not very observant person.

The term Policing is not limited to Law enforcement activity, it's a common term to mean; "take care of an area". Of course there were a few bored cops at a few gatherings but not all.

Funny, the tea party rally that I was near and walked past, there were several members screaming racial slurs at any person (ignorantly) perceived to be a foreigner or immigrant. Is this indicative of all tea party rallies? NO, is your story indicative of anything beyond a moment in time? No.

All these people yelling racial slurs.... all across the country, event after event yet we still have not seen any video of it, why didn't you record it on your cell phone, you could have been a "first". :dance:

Nothing would convince you otherwise, you are blinded by your own religious, hyperpartisan politics Danno, so I won't even try.

And yet you did. :whistle:

The names of those who caused it should be too. Bush started bailouts, and Obama continued them. I think there needed to be a bailout, but there should have been strings attached.

BUsh was involved too, but I would expect the outrage to be with people currently in power and who better represents that than Obama who I think out-did Bush on the Bail outs.

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"Those people who will not be governed by God


will be ruled by tyrants."



William Penn

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There may have been money in some places but the disorganization of the TEA PARTY is what I marveled at, especially in the beginning, in fact I couldn't even find a decent website to get info, it was alike emails being forwarded, if you weren't on the list Oh-well.

Selective memory huh? Quite convenient Danno.

SInce you are convinced that the Koch Bro. went around to all these disconnected 10-20 member groups .... no sense debating it.

Nice strawman argument Danno. You dismiss the actual reality, and skip straight to your false conclusion.

The term Policing is not limited to Law enforcement activity, it's a common term to mean; "take care of an area". Of course there were a few bored cops at a few gatherings but not all.

I will ask you again Danno, are you lying, or delusional? Because that simply isn't true. Nice try though.

All these people yelling racial slurs.... all across the country, event after event yet we still have not seen any video of it, why didn't you record it on your cell phone, you could have been a "first". :dance:

Again, I'll ask are you lying, or just naive? The internet is your friend, and google is a great tool to find the information you seek. But, if you don't even look, of course you'll never find it. Again, i'm not saying that all tea party rallies are racist or that a majority of tea party members are racist, but it does go on, it is your choice to acknowledge it or not, I really could not care less Danno.

And yet you did. :whistle:

Really? Thats me trying. Sorry Danno, I am just trying to counter your lies.

BUsh was involved too, but I would expect the outrage to be with people currently in power and who better represents that than Obama who I think out-did Bush on the Bail outs.

How cute Danno, Bush was involved too. He started them Danno, there is a difference, even if you ignore it. You also seem to ignore who created the conditions which lead to this situation, because you have your partisan blinders on. I'm sure in your eyes, Obama is guilty of crucifying Jesus too. :rolleyes:

Danno, I know you're not stupid, but how you draw the conclussions that you do is beyond me. Good luck with that.

 

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