HAS anyone ever won a Vawa Appeal?

[ladyg 10]

"UglynerdmanVJ" You came on a public forum to seek help,but from your posts and reply to what people are advising you its like you aint listening or getting it.Thats why you are failing in your petition its like you believe what you are believing and the sad thing is that USCIS aint buying what you are believing so are the people here who are trying to help you.Why dont you look at things in a different way.Insanity is using the same method and expecting different results.Now back to what uscis means as good faith of marriage isnt getting affidavits from friends or sending intimate videos or pictures but read below what good faith of marriage is and look for those documents and send them to USCIS and they may approval your petition good luck!

Evidence of the marriage itself. You will want to supply some evidence of the marriage itself, things like wedding announcements and pictures of the ceremony and any reception.

Birth Certificates of any Children

Most USCIS officers consider having children together to be some of the strongest evidence of a "good faith" marriage!

You will also need evidence that the marital relationship has continued, that you are indeed living together as husband and wife, that you have truly joined your lives together.

Documents showing joint ownership or responsibility: There are a large variety of documents you may want to consider, things like titles to property, utility bills, rental leases or home ownership documents. The important thing is that the documents show that the property or liability is jointly owned or held.

Documents showing commingling or sharing of financial resources: The USCIS interviewer will want to see evidence that you have shared financial resources, things like joint bank accounts, credit cards, insurance etc. Once again, the key is to have documentation showing that financial matters are indeed shared.

she had my bills i didnt not enter for a sham marriage we new eachotehr since 2006, lived together since 2007, married in 2008 divorced in 2010. she has our bills our mutual mail that went to our old apartment she arranged for a neighbor to give it to her and the landlord was unusually mean to me and i couldnt even talk to my neighbors. its because she lied about me to people which i put on tape and snet to them. our marriage was based on love i left because i couldnt tolerate the abuse anymore. even finding help i didnt know what to look for. i called domestic violence hotlines they refferred me all around i got juggled and everywhere didnt help men. one place told me to go to uscis in newark and they gave me the vawa thing in 09 i had no idea what it was for, i just wanted our marriage to get better and i needed help for all my abuse. the place i nthe area which treats people does not take in new patients anymore and it was the only one i could go for free.

they sent an rfe asking for good faith marriage specifically my lawyer told me to get affidavits from friendsd and family and to explain our courtship. like they said i sent a tax filing and utility and recipets of things purchased on my behalf. i was denied on solely bank account property insurance? I asked my wife to file for insurance as i had medical issues and we could pay the premium. it part of my extreme cruelty divorce and abuse. The part about family? are you people crazy we did spend time with outr family i introduced her to everyone she was a part of my life and we were making a future together. i feel because my status became a crutch it just became a nightmare.

I PROVED my batter yyou think i would endure all that for someone i do not love? Jeez. they sent an rfe and i sent what i could and explained that she keepsour mail i even asked her for our bills. we had obtained assets such as equipment computers and other things together. she is denying me that.

i thought good faith was defined as.

Whether the couple have known each other for a reasonably long time;

The frequency of meetings of the couple prior to the marriage;

Whether the couple have lived together in the past or presently live together;

Whether the couple married only after one party became the subject of an investigation, removal, or deportation proceedings by the USCIS. An immigration petition may not be approved for the alien who was married after the commencement of removal, exclusion, or deportation proceeding until the alien has resided outside the U.S. for at least two years, unless the alien spouse can prove the marriage was a good faith marriage and not solely for immigration purposes.

To prove the marriage was entered into in good faith, the following evidence should be presented:

Document showing joint ownership of property;

Whether the couple comes from diverse cultural background or speaks a common language.

hospital bills dont count? the guy wanted to see debts?

A red flag to show our intimacy and closeness as a loving couple? that we were romantic and i love you pictures we took at the mall is a red flag? Jesus i think i need an explanation.. Theres a problem that she attended family events and friends bbqs with me? Jesus... not having those things sounds more like a sham to me.

[UglyNerdManVJ 7]

seeing ppl on this forum namely women get through with just writing and not even half the bills i sent, no real documented abuse and just their marrige certificate.

I have my hospital bills now. i have dental bills where she did pay for me but i could not. i have bills in our adress and her future address, because of my abuse i could not attain my mail. We have assets we obtained. I have sent plenty of evidence

Say what you want. Look around this forum. the amount of evidence i sent them and the amount women send in pales in comparison when i look in general.. I sent ALOT of hard evidence and now im sending more.

anyone can make a video? what... im tired of this i was asking if anyone has won an appeal. did you go through VAWA? other wise im wondering what advice of knowledge could you have.. unless you are one of the uscis ppl who troll here. i am sending them my divorce also and my judgement of my extreme cruelty against my wife. Thanksfully my divorce sent by my wife had requested equitable distribution. though she did not win it she asked.

i now have my hospital bills its shows my insurance carrier. I did not sign myself up for it my wife did. I am sending everything I possibly can.

But i am asking once again Has anyone here On this forum had experience with a VAWA DENIAL APPEAL.

[UglyNerdManVJ 7]

the advice im reading on here sounds more Con than anything. I will not send some weird party who didnt know us. my family sent affidavits and i believe they would be willing to testify. the people that knew us also as friends and close friends they were all notarized. i have pictures of us but im hearing stuff like that is a red flag too. We created a video cuz we just were in love jesus.. it was to share with friends and family mostly. red flag for that? uh unless someone responds with their experience in appeals i dont think ill respond anymore. None of you have experience with appeals.

I will however if denied my appeal refile. I will send a more detailed writing with more evidence than before. My lawyer had told me it is my right to refile.

I have considered what some of you had said. I do have what little bills i do have of us showing mutual addresses. Ill send what i can. my lawyer said i had 30 days to send in additional stuff following my appeal.

AND I HAVE SENT HARD EVIDENCE. they want more and more and more i feel the guy didnt not even look@ the majority of it and he sent a response injecting an opinion, an opinion i have picked apart and my lawyer can show is erroneous. My lawyer had confidence.

i actually got less from the people on here...

Once again anyone have experience with appeals and why were you denied? did you win ? why or why not.

Edited October 21, 2011 by UglyNerdManVJ

[san diego 407]

YOU ARE NOT LISTENING TO PEOPLE! This is not about VAWA. This is about hard proof of relationship. You will lose again if you do not obtain any. This is the end of the story! They are not challenging your VAWA. They are challenging your relationship. What you described IS NOT hard evidence. This is what people are trying to tell you. In order to win appeal you need to provide hard evidence. If you put yourself in the shoes of the officer you will see that: anyone can make video. anyone can get letters. Financial intermingling is another story! You lack that while any couple that lives together has it. This is that simple! Any person understanding immigration law will tell you the same. Wome in your shoes would get denied as well due to lack of financial intermingling evidence.

Edited October 21, 2011 by san diego

[ladyg 10]

YOU ARE NOT LISTENING TO PEOPLE! This is not about VAWA. This is about hard proof of relationship. You will lose again if you do not obtain any. This is the end of the story! They are not challenging your VAWA. They are challenging your relationship. What you described IS NOT hard evidence. This is what people are trying to tell you. In order to win appeal you need to provide hard evidence. If you put yourself in the shoes of the officer you will see that: anyone can make video. anyone can get letters. Financial intermingling is another story! You lack that while any couple that lives together has it. This is that simple! Any person understanding immigration law will tell you the same. Wome in your shoes would get denied as well due to lack of financial intermingling evidence.

I agree with you if "uglynerdman" knows what to do ,provide and proof of his bonafide marriage why is he asking people on the forum and why didnt USCIS approve his petition the answer is simple he doesnt want to listen to what people are telling him.And he will keep appealing and re-applying as long as he doesnt pay attention to the advise given freely to him and also he has a lawyer what is the lawyer saying?

UGLYNERDMAN: I'm a vawa applicant,it was approved and I just got my gc.We know what we are talking about when we tell you things.Go to vawa forum see some men that have been approved like kwala.Apparently what you think is strong evidence is not in the eyes of USCIS why dont you change the method and it could change the results?

[NinjaLadyBug 23]

i paid for our apartment she lived with me rent free isnt that providing something for her? i have hospital bills and we had charity csre she signed me up but those bills and debts and assets we did aquire are in her posession and she will not share them. i have proof of me asking her. not getting those things are part of my abuse and its defined as abuse by the ppl who did my domestic violence letter even. thats just crazy if what you are saying is true.

If the bills are in your name, can you request them from the billing company directly? especially the medical bills. Can you call and have then resent to you? Its worth a shot. Also, how did you retrieve your belongings when you left? She should not legally be able to withhold mail that came to your house in YOUR name. Thanks actually ILLEGAL and you should talk to a lawyer about that. I open some of my husbands mail (he consents of course) but we share live together and I take care of all the bills but if (Hod forbid) something was to happen and we were no longer together, and he instructed that I no long did so, it would be ILLEGAL for me open and retain his mail.......

How did you pay the rent? Out of your account? There should be a paper trail of that no?

[julieta27 0]

hello everybody...i had the some RFE... i a lot of my bills with my husband i didnt have it ,but if you had water bills with her you get call them and ask for all the copies....if you had FPL...you also can ask for copies...they give you to you...i called them even my insurance and they send me all the copies

FPL they send me all my bills on my email...i didnt know either but my attorney suggest me to ask for....and to said that its an emergency...i got all my bills in one week

good luck

Edited November 1, 2011 by julieta27

[thelastpetitioner 218]

Look OP,you are trying too hard.at any stage and for any visa,overly front loading can be taken the wrong way,specially if the evidence are not rock hard, which yours aren't.

[harry66 2]

I am only trying to post my denial in order to get help from you guys. Ladyg and all the kind hearted people please help I have put it out there for all.

It is funny they only mention things against but never talk about the good proves you got. I have my restraining order now so for those worried about that

It is been taking care of. I will post the other denial letter soon as the limit can not allow any more documents.

Edited November 7, 2011 by harry66

[UglyNerdManVJ 7]

I just wanted to say i didnt find any of you people helpful or consoling. your advice felt more like helping ppl who actually do vawa fraud.

I was denied in letters they said they did not look at alot of my evidence which was hard evidence. They are supposed to accept all evidence. the person who reviewed my case didnt do his JOB. regardless of what all of you think the center didnt do its job as i provided tons of evidence with family and video and everything. i had hard medical data. bills, mutual address etc. i got denied because i didnt have a bank account, i didnt care about a bank account because i explained i couldnt get one with my lacking of documents and my abusive spouse controlled everything.

In the end you were all wrong. THE BIA looked at my evidence. I was approved. My excessive hard evidence being honest and not trying to decieve anyone payed off.

I won.to all you negative people I have been approved. Good day trolls.

[UglyNerdManVJ 7]

i was looking for people with experience with appealsto share their story but i got a bunch of nonsense and conjecture.

I have won my appeal. I know in my heart ppl at the vt center didnt do their job or look at my evidence. i had too much family stuff video pictures and details of our family life bills and other things. They did not recognize the scope of abuse and the ability to get insurance and bank accounts is up to the abuser not the victim. the person who did my case didnt even ask specifically for a second rfe before denial. i got my one rfe and then a denial. it didnt make sense. it was wrong how i was denied. and my appeal proves this. i say good day to you all. i will move on with my life and be happy now.

Edited August 24, 2012 by UglyNerdManVJ

[UglyNerdManVJ 7]

I just wanted to say i didnt find any of you people helpful or consoling. your advice felt more like helping ppl who actually do vawa fraud.

I was denied in letters they said they did not look at alot of my evidence which was hard evidence. They are supposed to accept all evidence. the person who reviewed my case didnt do his JOB. regardless of what all of you think the center didnt do its job as i provided tons of evidence with family and video and everything. i had hard medical data. bills, mutual address etc. i got denied because i didnt have a bank account, i didnt care about a bank account because i explained i couldnt get one with my lacking of documents and my abusive spouse controlled everything.

In the end you were all wrong. THE BIA looked at my evidence. I was approved. My excessive hard evidence being honest and not trying to decieve anyone payed off.

I won.to all you negative people I have been approved. Good day trolls.

I just wanted to say i didnt find any of you people helpful or consoling. your advice felt more like helping ppl who actually do vawa fraud.

I was denied in letters they said they did not look at alot of my evidence which was hard evidence. They are supposed to accept all evidence. the person who reviewed my case didnt do his JOB. regardless of what all of you think the center didnt do its job as i provided tons of evidence with family and video and everything. i had hard medical data. bills, mutual address etc. i got denied because i didnt have a bank account, i didnt care about a bank account because i explained i couldnt get one with my lacking of documents and my abusive spouse controlled everything. The idea that family, interaction with family pictures with friends happy moments and personal details,video photosm is not a good faith marriage and a bank account is is abysmal to me.

In the end you were all wrong. THE BIA looked at my evidence. I was approved. My excessive hard evidence being honest and not trying to decieve or worryin that i give too much evidence anyone payed off.

Unlike many people in this forum my marriage was real and for love. I loved my ex wife and I didnt care about my paper work, i sought help from abuse and took the steps provided but the system is hard on men and i feel many people who handle vawa dont understand abuse and what is available to victims fully or can really comprehend their evidence. they also lack the ability to watch video and use data or things on flash drives/cds dcds etc. A person could have years of video and happy family moments showing family but get denied from not having a bank account because VT wont look@ evidence. they lack the ability to follow the very guidlines they victims to get with all the evidence they can muster and overlook many things. I guess evidence that they didnt even look at like video and family stuff IS hard enough for GOOD FAITH! because we had a very intertwined family life. we had video together and pictures. they didnt look@ anything they just want a bank account.

MY lawyer said the BIA will give me a fair chance and will actually look at my evidence provided all of it and you know what? HE WAS RIGHT and all of you people were wrong.

I won. thats all i have to say to you people. .

[TBoneTX 45,303]

I won.

It must feel great. Congratulations.

[Kathryn41 3,205]

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moderator hat off . .

Thank you for coming back and updating us on your success. I'm sorry that you didn't find people as helpful to you as you would have liked, but I know we are all glad to hear that your appeal was successful. Reading over this thread it seemed like you did have evidence of an honest relationship and just had to get the adjudicating officer to realize that. Congratulations, and good luck moving on now with your life.

[Sandra G. 5,048]

Congrats.

For those filing Vawa now it's important to show commingling finances, but USCIS cannot deny a Vawa case just because the couple didn't have joint bank account, joint tax return,some people were battered after one week,twenty days living together and they didn't have time to have the finances together yet,others are married with controlling people and they don't have a normal life to have a bank account, utilities bills etc...