Do I dare say this - "But I am GLAD for the long application wait".

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Since I can't edit my previous post..

I wouldn't dare say it either (to the OP), because most of us are thinking you should have figured most things out BEFORE APPLYING FOR A VISA..............

.......................no???

There's only so much you can do.

This process is unpredictable and nobody knows how long it's going to take or when the beneficiary will be able to move.

Until I had my Visa in hand and knew when I was going to be crossing the border, I couldn't plan to leave my job, or make reservations for trucks and hotels for the move, get any addresses changed with any various companies, etc.

It's hard to completely wrap up your life in your home country without knowing when you're going to be leaving.

[mehellie 9]

No, No, No, No, No

A long wait of indefinate time is not a good thing.. If the process was shorter and you needed more time then you could just wait more time to file. For those that have no advantages to waiting - or are even losing money/time/etc. the wait is a terrible thing. A shorter wait time that is easier to predect would be good for almost everyone as they could at least have some control over thier timelines.

A forced longer period of waiting and added unpredictability should not be described as a blessing - its just a lack of options.

[Ron and Rhea 42]

I think it sucks....

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

Since I can't edit my previous post..

There's only so much you can do.

This process is unpredictable and nobody knows how long it's going to take or when the beneficiary will be able to move.

Until I had my Visa in hand and knew when I was going to be crossing the border, I couldn't plan to leave my job, or make reservations for trucks and hotels for the move, get any addresses changed with any various companies, etc.

It's hard to completely wrap up your life in your home country without knowing when you're going to be leaving.

If the process took a single day end to end that would change nothing in your plans above.. If the process took a single day you could still sit around for seven months and still not be able to plan what to do if you need the visa in hand.. A longer process is only better to someone who requires that a third party to control their timeline because they are unable to do it themselves.

Please.. provide an example where a *forced* longer time to wait is better for the person that is waiting.. remembering that with a short process I can snap my fingers and make it longer at my whim.. *snap* one month *snap* two months *snap* six months *snap* one year.

How nice it would have been to be able to plan my wife’s and I arrival to our new life.. We probably would have selected the August time frame so she could see what the city looks like before winter hits.. She’s never experienced temps below 60 or seen leaves turn color or fall off the trees.. The autumn transition would have been really nice. Instead it will be late November - stone cold and all the plants dormant with the full winter to go. Not the end of the world for sure but if I had control of our timeline I could have made her transition much easier.

I'm not mad about the time the process takes but come on... Have we really reached a time that we need someone else to forcibly pad time to factor in bad planning?

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Nowhere did I state a long waiting time is better for everyone. I am simply saying there are those of us who actually needed the time and were grateful to have it. We all dealt/will deal with the waiting in our own way and nobody's way is wrong. The people saying they were glad for it are not bad planners, or lazy, they simply needed the time and there's nothing wrong with that. To have someone come in and say "NO, NO, the waiting is horrible and you should think so too!" doesn't change anything except making one person feel "wrong" when they're not.

[Dan & Jenni 457]

We all dealt/will deal with the waiting in our own way and nobody's way is wrong.

i totally agree and if justifying the wait makes a person feel better about the whole process then so be it... each to there own

[Krikit 1,165]

Moving from Process to Progress.

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

Nowhere did I state a long waiting time is better for everyone. I am simply saying there are those of us who actually needed the time and were grateful to have it. We all dealt/will deal with the waiting in our own way and nobody's way is wrong. The people saying they were glad for it are not bad planners, or lazy, they simply needed the time and there's nothing wrong with that. To have someone come in and say "NO, NO, the waiting is horrible and you should think so too!" doesn't change anything except making one person feel "wrong" when they're not.

What? You understand the entire premise of this post is that the OP was grateful that the process was so long and that it was a blessing that he had time for all the things were not planned right? Others chimed that it really was a good thing that the process took so long because of things they had forgotten and one even went so far as to say that they were glad someone had the balls to say what everyone was thinking..

The people responding against long artificial processes were not attacking those that relish long artificial processes, they were responding to that nonsense. You are responding as if the exact opposite was the case.

Nobody wants to take away your right to wait.. wait 10 years for all I care... But to say *forced* waiting is somehow a good thing is crazy. So yeah.. an artificial wait is a bad bad bad horrible thing no matter how you rephrase it. Like I said, please show an example of where an artificially long process is a good thing.

Edited October 20, 2011 by OnMyWayID

[Jack&Ana 1]

Honestly, the 1st time I saw this post I didn't say anything, "if you don't have anything good to say" and all that. My outlook has changed though, a visit, even a short one, does a world of good.

The waiting time has served a purpose for a couple of reasons in my case. I can't say that I'm grateful for it and it has sucked but it's unavoidable and taking "my fate is in another's hands" road will drive you insane, been there done that... It makes the waiting even harder than it needs to be.

Sadly, we all have to go through it and there's nothing for it. When you talk with consular officers and realize that some of us come from high fraud countries you just have to accept the fact that everybody needs to be screened, checked and double checked.

I'll say it again, it sucks... I can't wait for our lives together to actually start.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

What? You understand the entire premise of this post is that the OP was grateful that the process was so long and that it was a blessing that he had time for all the things were not planned right? Others chimed that it really was a good thing that the process took so long because of things they had forgotten and one even went so far as to say that they were glad someone had the balls to say what everyone was thinking..

The people responding against long artificial processes were not attacking those that relish long artificial processes, they were responding to that nonsense. You are responding as if the exact opposite was the case.

Nobody wants to take away your right to wait.. wait 10 years for all I care... But to say *forced* waiting is somehow a good thing is crazy. So yeah.. an artificial wait is a bad bad bad horrible thing no matter how you rephrase it. Like I said, please show an example of where an artificially long process is a good thing.

All the OP said was that IN THEIR CASE, the wait worked out in their favor. What's wrong with that, exactly? I'm sure if we could make this process take 1 month instead of 1 year, we'd jump at the chance. But that's not the way it is. That's not real life. Immigration takes a long time, you're forced to wait, and that's just life. Not always fair, not always as fast as we want, but all you can do is make the best out of what you're given.

To say that anybody who found the wait to be beneficial is simply a bad planner isn't right, and that's what I am arguing against.

There are plenty of things in life that you are FORCED to wait for, that aren't just handed over to you on a silver platter. This is one of them. Either you can complain for the months that it takes to get processed, or you can use the time that you're given to wrap things up and get ready for a major event in your life.

Your choice.

i totally agree and if justifying the wait makes a person feel better about the whole process then so be it... each to there own

Agreed. We all deal with things in our own way. If the OP is happy for the wait in their case, then let them be happy. Don't tell them they're wrong for feeling the way they do. They've taken something negative and turned it into something positive for them. Good for them, I say.

Edited October 21, 2011 by Coconuts

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

All the OP said was that IN THEIR CASE, the wait worked out in their favor. What's wrong with that, exactly? I'm sure if we could make this process take 1 month instead of 1 year, we'd jump at the chance. But that's not the way it is. That's not real life. Immigration takes a long time, you're forced to wait, and that's just life. Not always fair, not always as fast as we want, but all you can do is make the best out of what you're given.

To say that anybody who found the wait to be beneficial is simply a bad planner isn't right, and that's what I am arguing against.

There are plenty of things in life that you are FORCED to wait for, that aren't just handed over to you on a silver platter. This is one of them. Either you can complain for the months that it takes to get processed, or you can use the time that you're given to wrap things up and get ready for a major event in your life.

Your choice.

Agreed. We all deal with things in our own way. If the OP is happy for the wait in their case, then let them be happy. Don't tell them they're wrong for feeling the way they do. They've taken something negative and turned it into something positive for them. Good for them, I say.

I was half-way through another diatribe but this is really a dumb argument (on both sides) we are all waiting and going through the same ordeal. Good luck to everyone.

to the OP: I know you meant this is to be good-natured. Sorry for my part in turning it into something stupid.

[Bryan and Isabel 29]

ditto

[sea-town 5]

i have to disagree i find my self flying to the philippines every few months now.

My god im tired of so much flying will this ever end !!!!!

[Bryan and Isabel 29]

Yup, lets all find our ways to deal with it, different paths, same outcome!!!

there is a saying in spanish, " no importa el tiempo que tengo que esperar, si existe la eternidad " english " It dosent matter how much time i have to wait, if eternity exists"

Good Luck to Everyone and God Bless

[Dan & Jenni 457]

Yup, lets all find our ways to deal with it, different paths, same outcome!!!

there is a saying in spanish, " no importa el tiempo que tengo que esperar, si existe la eternidad " english " It dosent matter how much time i have to wait, if eternity exists"

Good Luck to Everyone and God Bless

I was half-way through another diatribe but this is really a dumb argument (on both sides) we are all waiting and going through the same ordeal. Good luck to everyone.

to the OP: I know you meant this is to be good-natured. Sorry for my part in turning it into something stupid.