Fiance did not get visa b/c of insufficient evidence

[Emmysaur 29]

Nope. Listen, seeing someone once within 2 years is the requirement for a NOA 2, that is, that the USC eligible to receive this privilege. Then, its time for you to build a case that proves the beneficiary is eligible for visa approval. That's where people get caught. Visiting a fiancee, or even spouse, once a year is hard to overcome. You have a lot of explaining to do. There are many reasons, outside of finances, that this can happen: family members sick, the fiancee sick, etc. So, it is not reason for denial alone, but it is a huge red flag. In fact, often times in embassies as picky as Jamaica, Ecuador, Morocco and Egypt, they will deny you. I've been to Egypt twice this year and returuning for my fiancee's interview. This is goal for us: to love each other and be married and start a family. Its not a game of fate. Pray for God to bless us all, but we all have to do our parts.

Granted, not everyone may be able to do this. My co-worker has an Australian fiancee and she's been there 4 times and he's been here 5 times within this year. That doesn't mean they will be approved either. I pray they do, however. The point is that it is all in the circumstances.

Thank you for explaining. Now I wonder if my case is hopeless

To the OP: Hope your situation can still be helped, hang in there!

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Thank you for explaining. Now I wonder if my case is hopeless

To the OP: Hope your situation can still be helped, hang in there!

Buy a plane ticket

[Emmysaur 29]

Buy a plane ticket

Already got our NOA2 and the reason why we only met once was our financial status. Flying from Japan to Oklahoma is expensive, my fiance and I are poor lol. I can provide emails from 2007 up to present though, skype call logs and snapshots, facebook screenshots.

What else can we provide?

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Already got our NOA2 and the reason why we only met once was our financial status. Flying from Japan to Oklahoma is expensive, my fiance and I are poor lol. I can provide emails from 2007 up to present though, skype call logs and snapshots, facebook screenshots.

What else can we provide?

You can still visit. I visited twice after the petition approval and before the interview plus went to the intervciew and provided evidence of all the visits. Did you think evidence gathering ends when you get the petition approval?

Flying from Vermont to Ukraine ain't exactly cheap. I assure you that any expenses you have now are not even a down payment for what you will have with a foreign fiancee arriving here and unable to work for 4-6 months. Good luck if you have trouble with a plane ticket.

[kennym 275]

Already got our NOA2 and the reason why we only met once was our financial status. Flying from Japan to Oklahoma is expensive, my fiance and I are poor lol. I can provide emails from 2007 up to present though, skype call logs and snapshots, facebook screenshots.

What else can we provide?

I understand the financial burden this seems like.. Did you and your fiance think this through completely? It may be important enough to each of you that you prepare yourself ahead of time for the requirements of obtaining the VISA..

At this point, you should make sure you're both there for the Interview, at least several days in advance of the interview to gather more evidense.. It seems this may or may not help, but it will be better than arriving at the Interview with no new evidense of an on-going relationship...

Edited October 15, 2011 by kennym

[Emmysaur 29]

You can still visit. I visited twice after the petition approval and before the interview plus went to the intervciew and provided evidence of all the visits. Did you think evidence gathering ends when you get the petition approval?

Flying from Vermont to Ukraine ain't exactly cheap. I assure you that any expenses you have now are not even a down payment for what you will have with a foreign fiancee arriving here and unable to work for 4-6 months. Good luck if you have trouble with a plane ticket.

This is the main reason why we are trying to save as much as we can.

I understand the financial burden this seems like.. Did you and your fiance think this through completely? It may be important enough to each of you that you prepare yourself ahead of time for the requirements of obtaining the VISA..

At this point, you should make sure you're both there for the Interview, at least several days in advance of the interview to gather more evidense.. It seems this may or may not help, but it will be better than arriving at the Interview with no new evidense of an on-going relationship...

Are you saying that the evidence of on-going relationship is only limited to how often the couple see each other in person?

Thank you for the concern, really appreciate it. But we just can't go that route. As of now I wanna stay positive and hope for the best

[kennym 275]

Are you saying that the evidence of on-going relationship is only limited to how often the couple see each other in person?

Thank you for the concern, really appreciate it. But we just can't go that route. As of now I wanna stay positive and hope for the best

This evidense is a collection of things.. Visits and showing you've "been together" Shows commitment and can be a part of displaying the emotional aspect of a genuine relationship...

The thing you've got to prove; to someone who doesnt know you and automatically suspects that everyone is a scammer, is that your submittal is based on a real relationship and not one of a business arrangement...

I dont have the Counselor manual, but I imagine, that they can see that anyone who hasnt spent time together may not be in a real relationship... so they may wonder; How can they be planning to get married if they hardly know each other? Unless it's for fraudulaent reasons, this relationship is not real...

You've got to be prepared to circumvent this doubt...

Edited October 16, 2011 by kennym

[NY_BX 397]

Already got our NOA2 and the reason why we only met once was our financial status. Flying from Japan to Oklahoma is expensive, my fiance and I are poor lol. I can provide emails from 2007 up to present though, skype call logs and snapshots, facebook screenshots.

What else can we provide?

Wait, hold on. You know your fiancee since 2007 and you've only seen each other once? So in 5 years you've only been together once?

If this is correct, you better start baking cupcakes and selling them because this is veeeeeery hard to ovecome. You can have a a U-Haul worth of emails and chat logs and that won't be enough. I hate to say. So, please correct me if I'm wrong. I don't think your case is hopeless, but its starting to look like you will have to build a library of documents to prove you have a bonafide relationship. Here's my thought, if you met each other within a year, don't say you know each other since 2007. I think that hurts more than helps.

Any other opinions?

[NY_BX 397]

This is the main reason why we are trying to save as much as we can.

Are you saying that the evidence of on-going relationship is only limited to how often the couple see each other in person?

Thank you for the concern, really appreciate it. But we just can't go that route. As of now I wanna stay positive and hope for the best

The evidence will be limited to how many times you've been together in person, yes. I'd say hope for the best, but I can't wrap my head around the idea of treating this like a game of chance. This is not gambling. This is serious. The investment needs to be done now, because there may NOT be a visa approval. At least that's how we see it. I wish you good luck.

[Emmysaur 29]

Wait, hold on. You know your fiancee since 2007 and you've only seen each other once? So in 5 years you've only been together once?

If this is correct, you better start baking cupcakes and selling them because this is veeeeeery hard to ovecome. You can have a a U-Haul worth of emails and chat logs and that won't be enough. I hate to say. So, please correct me if I'm wrong. I don't think your case is hopeless, but its starting to look like you will have to build a library of documents to prove you have a bonafide relationship. Here's my thought, if you met each other within a year, don't say you know each other since 2007. I think that hurts more than helps.

Any other opinions?

I guess if you hear our story you won't advice me that. I would love to tell you but it's kind of mean to take over this thread

To 4clife: I am sorry for raising my questions in your thread

[dap 5]

Did your fuyure husband give you a list of names so you can contact these people to verify this fact. I have seen or heard of any of those couples on VJ that have gone thru the Kingston embassy that has met that criteria.

Good luck on your journey.

yes he did about 3 of them. One of them lives in the Miami area to date and he had not even heard of VJ. I talked to another friend from Mexico and she said alot of people get VISA's and do not get on this site. She did just last year for her fiance and never even came to this site.

[dap 5]

How does he know? He has tons of people around him doing the same thing? Remember each case is so.different and that is what I like. One visit then filing a case is so different than one visit in 2 years.

Yeah, matter of fact he does... lol

[dukeandduchess 141]

If you can't afford to visit each other semi-regularly due to expenses it raises a big red flag, in my opinion.

How will you afford AOS, vaccines, travel to the US, wedding, living together, food, kids, emergencies.... etc.

I'm not exactly rolling in money (neither is my fiance) but we made an effort to visit at least every 3-6 mos for 2.5 years. All with school, work, and family commitments. Have to go without sometimes to make things work, but that's just life.

[LIFE'SJOURNEY 970]

yes he did about 3 of them. One of them lives in the Miami area to date and he had not even heard of VJ. I talked to another friend from Mexico and she said alot of people get VISA's and do not get on this site. She did just last year for her fiance and never even came to this site.

Dan, yes lots of people get visas and they do not come on this site, and lots of people get denials and they don't come on this site either. You asked for advise and I gave it to you based on what I have heard and seen from those who have gone thru the Jamaican embassy. I myself went thru the Kingston embassy, so I can only base my experience on the Kingston embassy, not Mexico.

If you an your SO feels that the one visit is enough evidence, then continue on, but you asked for advise. It seems that people wants advise, but if it isn't the answer they want to hear, they wants to agrue the point.

Again, I say Good luck on your journey,

[NY_BX 397]

I guess if you hear our story you won't advice me that. I would love to tell you but it's kind of mean to take over this thread

To 4clife: I am sorry for raising my questions in your thread

You can send me a message or post a different thread, that is, if you're open to opinions and advice.

Good luck with everything.