Fiance did not get visa b/c of insufficient evidence

[TBoneTX 46,276]

OP:

If there's a second interview, you'd better also be there for it.

Even if you withdraw the current petition, you may receive correspondence from USCIS about it (a "notice of intent to deny" or other). You must not ignore this and must respond to it. Otherwise, a "fraud marker" could be attached to the petition file, and it would follow you through later petitions.

[LIFE'SJOURNEY 970]

I just talk to future husband and he said that tons of people get approved in jamaica off one visa. I think that the OP needs to speak with their significant other and see what questions were asked and what was responded.

I feel better now.

Thanks all.

Did your fuyure husband give you a list of names so you can contact these people to verify this fact. I have seen or heard of any of those couples on VJ that have gone thru the Kingston embassy that has met that criteria.

Good luck on your journey.

[Girl from Celebes 588]

Look, these one visit a year, is very hard for the CO to believe that you'll have a true relationship. You are from Jamaica, so it seems that you would be visiting more often if your relationship is that of two people who are madly in love and looking to spend the rest of their lives together. You have the income and you are not burden with children, so there do not seems to be an obstaculars in your way from visiting the love of your life.

You'll burden of proof does seems alittle weak.

How many visit for both each other that consider having bona fide relationship?

[Girl from Celebes 588]

4clife did he say what questions they asked him??..did he know all the info abt you??...thats crazy, the law says you only need to show proof of meeting once. i would love to know wht they were going by as not enough!!

I was thinking that way. But another poster saying that they had to meet more often to proof it's madly in love relationship. I'm confused

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

There is no pint or purpose in trying to guess why they were not sucessful. They did not have enough evidence to overcome whatever liabilities or red flags or whatever, that they had. It is quite possible the reason is not even anything the OP knows about.

It will ne detailed in some correspondence sometime down the road.

There is a small possibility the consulate may have made an error and sent it back to USCIS and that USCS will reaffirm the petition and send it back for another interview and everyone can sit around hoping for that...or file a new petition and prepare better next time.

Tbone is correct, do not ignore any correspondence. If you withdraw the petition and get an NOID then answer it that you have withdrawn that petition and filed a new one

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I was thinking that way. But another poster saying that they had to meet more often to proof it's madly in love relationship. I'm confused

The consulate decides. They can decide whatever they want for each case

There is NO LAW that says you only have to meet once. That is for the PETITION it is NOT for the visa. For the visa you must convince them you have a realtionship that is NOT established for immigration benefits. There is no specific requirements to do that. It is your job to have "enough" evidence, whatever the CO determines is enough.

4clife did he say what questions they asked him??..did he know all the info abt you??...thats crazy, the law says you only need to show proof of meeting once. i would love to know wht they were going by as not enough!!

The law says no such thing. That requirement is for an approved PETITION not for an approved visa. They are not the same.

[Back2real 4]

We did a 2nd letter of intent for both of us, 2003 pics when i went back to jamaica,which prove past relationship, Pics when I went back in july 2010 n april 2011 and plane reciepts, 3 months phone record i send him with both of us calling each other b/c that's the way we communicate, I-134, letter from my job, 2 yrs tax return, and w2.

They never took his or my updated letter of intent to marry. We sent cell phone records for 1 and a half years. records from the first day we started talking. Did you ever find out the questions he was asked and if he answered correctly? Also was he able to write your full name correctly? also did you have dates and where the pics where taken at on the back? was he able to answer the questions about the pics correctly? have u gotten anymnore feedback from him as to what exactly happened and all the questions he was asked and forms he gave, etc.

[LIFE'SJOURNEY 970]

How many visit for both each other that consider having bona fide relationship?

Please read what Gary/Alla has stated and understand the difference between pettioning for a visa application guidelines and the guideines that the consular uses to issues a visa. Here is his statement "There is NO LAW that says you only have to meet once. That is for the PETITION it is NOT for the visa. For the visa you must convince them you have a realtionship that is NOT established for immigration benefits. There is no specific requirements to do that. It is your job to have "enough" evidence, whatever the CO determines is enough."

[Girl from Celebes 588]

Please read what Gary/Alla has stated and understand the difference between pettioning for a visa application guidelines and the guideines that the consular uses to issues a visa. Here is his statement "There is NO LAW that says you only have to meet once. That is for the PETITION it is NOT for the visa. For the visa you must convince them you have a realtionship that is NOT established for immigration benefits. There is no specific requirements to do that. It is your job to have "enough" evidence, whatever the CO determines is enough."

Gary/Alla actually answered my question. My question that you quote was made before Gary/Alla gave an opinion about it and I already read it. But thank you for pointed out.... I guess was asked too many questions, then...

Edited October 15, 2011 by Girl from Celebes

[NY_BX 397]

Isn't once enough? You are really scaring me

Nope. Listen, seeing someone once within 2 years is the requirement for a NOA 2, that is, that the USC eligible to receive this privilege. Then, its time for you to build a case that proves the beneficiary is eligible for visa approval. That's where people get caught. Visiting a fiancee, or even spouse, once a year is hard to overcome. You have a lot of explaining to do. There are many reasons, outside of finances, that this can happen: family members sick, the fiancee sick, etc. So, it is not reason for denial alone, but it is a huge red flag. In fact, often times in embassies as picky as Jamaica, Ecuador, Morocco and Egypt, they will deny you. I've been to Egypt twice this year and returuning for my fiancee's interview. This is goal for us: to love each other and be married and start a family. Its not a game of fate. Pray for God to bless us all, but we all have to do our parts.

Granted, not everyone may be able to do this. My co-worker has an Australian fiancee and she's been there 4 times and he's been here 5 times within this year. That doesn't mean they will be approved either. I pray they do, however. The point is that it is all in the circumstances.

[NY_BX 397]

Hi everyone!! I need your help. My fiance had his interview today, but did not get his visa because they said he did not have enough evidence. I know my fiance before I came to the US 11 years ago. I went back in 2003 to see him and had picture we took in that year, however, we prove up for no apparent reason,long distance was a challenge. Recently we decided to get back together and take this relationship to another nothch. I visited him July of last year and he proposed to me. I went back to see him April of this year. Financially I'm good b/c I made 35k, plus I have don't have any children. I don't know what's their reason for saying he did not have enough evidence.

They told him they are sending the case back to the State, so for those that can help, what happen in a situation like this?

Thank You!!

It happened to my K1 petition last year too. the deny base on my visit to my wife only 5 days, no engagement ceremony. Base on my experience, you got to front load lots of evidence when you filed for K1 at USCIS. For my case, the deny was on November 2010, I have to wait 4 months for the petition return back to USCIS. however, when the case got to USCIS, it was ex expired because the K1 is only 4 months period for visa. USCIS told me to file new form at my cost. I filed I-130 form on March 2011. My wife will have the interview on this coming November 16, 2011 at Ho Chi Minh city. You have to wait for the case back to USCIS. you might appeal with the deny but as I told you by the time your case get back to USA it will be automatically expired, Good luck for your new file. make sure you have to write your timeline more detail, collect all of your evidences together with your new file to USCIS otherwise they will send you RFE request for more Bona fide marriage relationship. I file I-130 on March 2011, I received RFE for bona fide relationship evidences because USCIS agent told me my wife was approved for K1 by their agency but the CONSULATE at HO CHI MINH city deny base on the evidences we provided are not real at our claimed relationship.

Clear case of only visiting once. Thank you wholeheartedly for sharing your story. Please keep us abreast of your story.

[naijaboy 16]

this thread is intense and scary.. my fiances second interview is in December.. They didn't deny her on the first interview they just asked her to bring more proof.. I hope that's a good sign..OP im so sorry for whats happening to you.. I know the pain your feeling right now.. Good luck to you and your fiance!

[Hello. 2]

They definitely think your marriage is fake. So, they'll probably send your petition back to USCIS for a review which could really take any amount of time. Sucks for you!

[Aztec&Taino 144]

In addition to what everyone else has said, I just want to say that many times in high fraud countries (such as Jamaica and my husband's country, the Dominican Republic), officers are suspicious of beneficiaries' intentions if the petitioner is originally from that country. Why? Fraud often occurs between families and/or circles of friends. In consequence, these relationships are scrutinized higher as the motives could be "for immigration purposes" rather than having a bona-fide relationship.

To the OP: You could seek the consulate-specific advice of other people who have gone through the process in Jamaica. Best wishes!

[RICARDO4EVA2 195]

I just talk to future husband and he said that tons of people get approved in jamaica off one visa. I think that the OP needs to speak with their significant other and see what questions were asked and what was responded.

I feel better now.

Thanks all.

How does he know? He has tons of people around him doing the same thing? Remember each case is so.different and that is what I like. One visit then filing a case is so different than one visit in 2 years.