i am chance with this proof of relation ?

[Mike&Cherry 45]

Hello. How are you doing? You should have your wife come on to this website to gather information and ask questions also. She will have to gather much of relationship evidence on her end and of course that you gather relationship evidence too. There's a lot of information here on Visajourney. You can also lookin the "GUIDES" Section at the top of this page under CR-1 Visa. I see you put yourself down as K-3 Visa, but that does not exist anymore. It would be CR-1 Visa. This is why you should have you wife come on here since she made the original petition. Also it will be good for you both to know what steps you need to do next in your immigration process. Good Luck.

[Mike&Cherry 45]

I think it is enough to provide the marriage certificate. But certainly bring photos if you can. My wife and I are not the type to take photos of us so we only have about six! But I'm not worried. We are legally married. Unless there's another reason for a yellow or red flag, it is not the same as having to prove a relationship like a fiance visa. I have also read on this site that other couples only provided their marriage certificate and they got their visa. But bring "more evidence" if it will make you feel better. You never know, right?

This can lead to disaster and a Denial. Just because you have a real marriage doesn't mean that the Consulate will believe it. The burden of proof is on you. Please be careful with posting this type of advice because this misinformation can ruin someones chances of getting their Visa to be with their wife/husband. That would be devastating.

[diath 6]

Whoa! Careful there with the misinformation. An I-130 filing and a visa application (the interview stage) both require you present evidence of a bona fide marriage. A marriage certificate does not prove a bona fide marriage. Get ready to show some primary evidence of co-mingling your lives. That applies to you too, Jason. You don't want to end up in AP or with a denial.

Review page 3 of the I-130 instructions http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-130instr.pdf

Your consulate instructions will also ask for evidence of a bona fide marriage relationship for your interview. This goes beyond photographs, which are considered secondary evidence of a relationship.

So does that mean even when you've been married for over 2 years you need to show the evidence that this is not a fake marriage?

[EAbbas 213]

So does that mean even when you've been married for over 2 years you need to show the evidence that this is not a fake marriage?

YESS everybody please do what yachachiq12 has been saying!!!!

Just because you have a marriage cert doesnt mean anything it just means your married.. but is it a REAL marriage of fruad?? ITS TOTALLY UP TO YOU TO SHOW THEM ITS REAL!!!! Bring everything!!!!!!!!!!!! and i mean everything!!!! chats emails letters cards, receipts for gifts, pictures... and tons of them... phone records, trips taken with boarding passes and flight itineraries letters from family members and friends saying they know about you bring in your webcam history together... i know my husband and i are online every day.... so we have hours and hours and hours of history to show ... bring pics of not only the two of you together but together with family or friends too... wedding reception pics wedding pics anyhting you name it to prove your together...i even brought my bank statements and asset statements showing my husband is on as Paid on Death.. (i cant add him to my bank account etc until he comes here so this was the next best thing)

[EAbbas 213]

n btw it won't matter if your married 1 month or 20 yrs they will expect to see some kind of relationship information regarding everything i just posted... otherwise you will either get a request to submit taking more time to issue visa or a flat out denial and the case sent back. Ive never seen anyone issue just a marriage certificate and get a visa... there is a lot more info the CO expects to see.

[wee carrington 33]

n btw it won't matter if your married 1 month or 20 yrs they will expect to see some kind of relationship information regarding everything i just posted... otherwise you will either get a request to submit taking more time to issue visa or a flat out denial and the case sent back. Ive never seen anyone issue just a marriage certificate and get a visa... there is a lot more info the CO expects to see.

From Instructions for form I-130:

OR Your husband or wife has lived outside of the United States, after the marriage for a period of at least 2 years.

I just mailed in my marriage cert. (been married 3 1/2 years) with my I-130 and copies of all my UK visas and both of our passport pages and we were approved.

Her husband is in the United States Air Force and from what I understand, has lived out of the US for a length of 2 years.

Edited October 14, 2011 by Mrs GH

[EAbbas 213]

From Instructions for form I-130:

OR Your husband or wife has lived outside of the United States, after the marriage for a period of at least 2 years.

I just mailed in my marriage cert. (been married 3 1/2 years) with my I-130 and copies of all my UK visas and both of our passport pages and we were approved.

Her husband is in the United States Air Force and from what I understand, has lived out of the US for a length of 2 years.

Im not talking about the i130 im talking about the Visa approval at the embassy... as I mentioned the CO... which is embassy level will want to see all of this to bring it all save it all print it all so the marriage can be validated at the embassy level

and some countries DO need to see front loaded evidence of the marriage at the time they submit the i130 or they will get plenty RFE for it..

Edited October 14, 2011 by EAbbas

[wee carrington 33]

Im not talking about the i130 im talking about the Visa approval at the embassy... as I mentioned the CO... which is embassy level will want to see all of this to bring it all save it all print it all so the marriage can be validated at the embassy level

and some countries DO need to see front loaded evidence of the marriage at the time they submit the i130 or they will get plenty RFE for it..

Oh, right, my mistake!!

[EAbbas 213]

some embassies are just plain harder

[diath 6]

YESS everybody please do what yachachiq12 has been saying!!!!

Just because you have a marriage cert doesnt mean anything it just means your married.. but is it a REAL marriage of fruad?? ITS TOTALLY UP TO YOU TO SHOW THEM ITS REAL!!!! Bring everything!!!!!!!!!!!! and i mean everything!!!! chats emails letters cards, receipts for gifts, pictures... and tons of them... phone records, trips taken with boarding passes and flight itineraries letters from family members and friends saying they know about you bring in your webcam history together... i know my husband and i are online every day.... so we have hours and hours and hours of history to show ... bring pics of not only the two of you together but together with family or friends too... wedding reception pics wedding pics anyhting you name it to prove your together...i even brought my bank statements and asset statements showing my husband is on as Paid on Death.. (i cant add him to my bank account etc until he comes here so this was the next best thing)

Well, we'll be doing the DCF and I sent out a few questions to the Embassy and they said since we live together since we are married ( and before) and we don't really have like chats or phone records, it is not neccessary but I guess it is needed then.

[diath 6]

From Instructions for form I-130:

OR Your husband or wife has lived outside of the United States, after the marriage for a period of at least 2 years.

I just mailed in my marriage cert. (been married 3 1/2 years) with my I-130 and copies of all my UK visas and both of our passport pages and we were approved.

Her husband is in the United States Air Force and from what I understand, has lived out of the US for a length of 2 years.

Exactly, he's living in the UK since 3 years, so did I.

[EAbbas 213]

each embassy is diff but you have lease agreements and prob bank records that ur together that makes it eaiser to prove your marriage is genuine but for those that arent living together yet it makes it more difficult to prove bcos the embassy wants to see clear evidence of a genuine marriage so all those things i mentioned are needed at the interview for ppl not filing dcf

[diath 6]

each embassy is diff but you have lease agreements and prob bank records that ur together that makes it eaiser to prove your marriage is genuine but for those that arent living together yet it makes it more difficult to prove bcos the embassy wants to see clear evidence of a genuine marriage so all those things i mentioned are needed at the interview for ppl not filing dcf

Oh okay. Thanks for your answer!

[walid lara 0]

i meet her in 2 holiday and i meet her kids in one holiday , and cha and phone records can t be good proof

[EAbbas 213]

i meet her in 2 holiday and i meet her kids in one holiday , and cha and phone records can t be good proof

You need all the proof you can get.. get copies of your passport trip stamps, plane ticket etickets, boarding passes, hotel receipts anything that proves you have an ongoing relationship including chat and phone records